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OT - does Google send e-mails about security??
Today I received an e-mail "from Google" that a security check of my Google
account has been updated to improve security. I am advised to check the security options by clicking a link in the e-mail message. This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no e-mail. Any way to get into contact with Google about this? -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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OT - does Google send e-mails about security??
On 02 Feb 2018, "Linea Recta" wrote in
alt.windows7.general: Today I received an e-mail "from Google" that a security check of my Google account has been updated to improve security. I am advised to check the security options by clicking a link in the e-mail message. This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no e-mail. Any way to get into contact with Google about this? If yours is the same email I've gotten two of, it appears to be legitimate. But that's not to say that there aren't fake ones as well. My advice is to log into your Google account and see if there are any warnings there. Do *NOT* click on any links in the email itself. In my case, the "security" issue was my allowing of what they consider to be a "less secure app", namely Thunderbird. I already knew about that, so there was no real problem. |
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OT - does Google send e-mails about security??
On 2/2/2018 10:29 AM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Feb 2018, "Linea Recta" wrote in alt.windows7.general: Today I received an e-mail "from Google" that a security check of my Google account has been updated to improve security. I am advised to check the security options by clicking a link in the e-mail message. This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no e-mail. Any way to get into contact with Google about this? If yours is the same email I've gotten two of, it appears to be legitimate. But that's not to say that there aren't fake ones as well. My advice is to log into your Google account and see if there are any warnings there. Do *NOT* click on any links in the email itself. In my case, the "security" issue was my allowing of what they consider to be a "less secure app", namely Thunderbird. I already knew about that, so there was no real problem. When you're talking about logging into my Google account what do you mean exactly? Logging into my web based Gmail account? I have 3 of those. |
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OT - does Google send e-mails about security??
On 02 Feb 2018, cameo wrote in
alt.windows7.general: When you're talking about logging into my Google account what do you mean exactly? Logging into my web based Gmail account? I have 3 of those. Yes, log into your web Gmail account. You should have access to all the Google products you subscribe to from there, but I think these emails are about Gmail in particular. Unless the email indicates what account is in question, you'll need to log into each one separately to check them out. |
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OT - does Google send e-mails about security??
On 2/2/2018 12:45 PM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Feb 2018, cameo wrote in alt.windows7.general: When you're talking about logging into my Google account what do you mean exactly? Logging into my web based Gmail account? I have 3 of those. Yes, log into your web Gmail account. You should have access to all the Google products you subscribe to from there, but I think these emails are about Gmail in particular. Unless the email indicates what account is in question, you'll need to log into each one separately to check them out. Thanks. |
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On 02/02/2018 16:52, Linea Recta wrote:
Today I received an e-mail "from Google" that a security check of my Google account has been updated to improve security. Wonderful. Send them your thank you eMail. I am advised to check the security options by clicking a link in the e-mail message. check where the link is going to by hovering over it and looking in the status bar at the bottom of the screen. This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no e-mail. If it is suspicious to you then you should really be deleting it and move forward. There is no point in crying about it on a public newsgroup. Any way to get into contact with Google about this? Yes. they are running a wonderful Forum where you get their staff solving your problems by giving you their private email address. Make sure the email is legitimate and not from some drug dealer trying to flog his wares. -- With over 600 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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OT - does Google send e-mails about security??
Linea Recta wrote:
Today I received an e-mail "from Google" that a security check of my Google account has been updated to improve security. I am advised to check the security options by clicking a link in the e-mail message. This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no e-mail. Any way to get into contact with Google about this? Your google account is the umbrella for all your google services and their security including gmail. The security and settings of your google account can be accessed starting he https://myaccount.google.com/u/0/?hl=en&pli=1 Control, protect, and secure your account, all in one place - My Account gives you quick access to settings and tools that let you safeguard your data, protect your privacy, and decide how your information can make Google services work better for you. -- Mike Easter |
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"Linea Recta" wrote
| This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no | e-mail. | | Any way to get into contact with Google about this? | You don't need to guess. Save the email and open it in Notepad to see the actual content. If you're using webmail then use View Source. Email is text-based. No matter what kind of obfuscation might be used, you can still see where the link goes to and thereby figure out whether it's legitimate. In general you'll be safer and have better privacy if you avoid webmail. If you must use gmail, set it up with POP3 or IMAP through your email program. (You seem to be using Windows Mail. That should be adequate.) You can also use TBird. Either way, an email program will usually default to not allowing script or remote file access, and it should be easy to see the actual email code. (In TBird you can just drag an email out onto the Desktop and open it in Notepad. Ditto for OE. WM will probably do the same thing. |
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"Mayayana" schreef in bericht
news "Linea Recta" wrote | This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no | e-mail. | | Any way to get into contact with Google about this? | You don't need to guess. Save the email and open it in Notepad to see the actual content. If you're using webmail then use View Source. Email is text-based. No matter what kind of obfuscation might be used, you can still see where the link goes to and thereby figure out whether it's legitimate. In general you'll be safer and have better privacy if you avoid webmail. If you must use gmail, set it up with POP3 or IMAP through your email program. (You seem to be using Windows Mail. That should be adequate.) You can also use TBird. Either way, an email program will usually default to not allowing script or remote file access, and it should be easy to see the actual email code. (In TBird you can just drag an email out onto the Desktop and open it in Notepad. Ditto for OE. WM will probably do the same thing. Thanks. I logged into my gmail account with chrome and "solved" a security risk by clicking the advised button. Now my settings are supposed to be more secure. As a result I cant log in anymore with my client Vista Mail, I keep getting a message to use the browser for web mail. I'm not a hacker, just dont want to use web mail. Wasted the whole day trying to turn this back. What can I do to return to the previous situation? regards -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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On 03/02/2018 18:17:34, Linea Recta wrote:
"Mayayana" schreef in bericht news "Linea Recta" wrote This looks very suspicious to me and I'm not going to click on no link in no | e-mail. | | Any way to get into contact with Google about this? | You don't need to guess. Save the email and open it in Notepad to see the actual content. If you're using webmail then use View Source. Email is text-based. No matter what kind of obfuscation might be used, you can still see where the link goes to and thereby figure out whether it's legitimate. In general you'll be safer and have better privacy if you avoid webmail. If you must use gmail, set it up with POP3 or IMAP through your email program. (You seem to be using Windows Mail. That should be adequate.) You can also use TBird. Either way, an email program will usually default to not allowing script or remote file access, and it should be easy to see the actual email code. (In TBird you can just drag an email out onto the Desktop and open it in Notepad. Ditto for OE. WM will probably do the same thing. Thanks. I logged into my gmail account with chrome and "solved" a security risk by clicking the advised button. Now my settings are supposed to be more secure. As a result I cant log in anymore with my client Vista Mail, I keep getting a message to use the browser for web mail. I'm not a hacker, just dont want to use web mail. Wasted the whole day trying to turn this back. What can I do to return to the previous situation? regards I guess you removed, allow the Vista Mail app in the gmail security settings. I'm not familiar with Vista Mail but my guess is you need to delete the gmail account from Vista Mail then redo it again. Note down any settings to the original gmail account before deleting it -- mick |
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On 03 Feb 2018, "Linea Recta" wrote in
alt.windows7.general: I logged into my gmail account with chrome and "solved" a security risk by clicking the advised button. Now my settings are supposed to be more secure. As a result I cant log in anymore with my client Vista Mail, I keep getting a message to use the browser for web mail. I'm not a hacker, just dont want to use web mail. Wasted the whole day trying to turn this back. What can I do to return to the previous situation? Vista Mail is considered by Google to be a "less secure app". In order to use it, you have to go back to Google and allow less secure apps. It's really not "less secure", it just doesn't use Google's preferred security scheme. Google explains it he https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 |
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"Nil" schreef in bericht
... On 03 Feb 2018, "Linea Recta" wrote in alt.windows7.general: I logged into my gmail account with chrome and "solved" a security risk by clicking the advised button. Now my settings are supposed to be more secure. As a result I cant log in anymore with my client Vista Mail, I keep getting a message to use the browser for web mail. I'm not a hacker, just dont want to use web mail. Wasted the whole day trying to turn this back. What can I do to return to the previous situation? Vista Mail is considered by Google to be a "less secure app". In order to use it, you have to go back to Google and allow less secure apps. It's really not "less secure", it just doesn't use Google's preferred security scheme. Google explains it he https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 Thanks very much, that did the job! I had no idea I was using an "app". I thought VistaMail was called a program, or client if you will. I don't use any apps on no mobile phone. Just VM on two computers with Windows 7. Are all conventional clients, like Thunderbird etc. also considered unsafe by Google? -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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Linea Recta wrote:
"Nil" schreef in bericht ... On 03 Feb 2018, "Linea Recta" wrote in alt.windows7.general: I logged into my gmail account with chrome and "solved" a security risk by clicking the advised button. Now my settings are supposed to be more secure. As a result I cant log in anymore with my client Vista Mail, I keep getting a message to use the browser for web mail. I'm not a hacker, just dont want to use web mail. Wasted the whole day trying to turn this back. What can I do to return to the previous situation? Vista Mail is considered by Google to be a "less secure app". In order to use it, you have to go back to Google and allow less secure apps. It's really not "less secure", it just doesn't use Google's preferred security scheme. Google explains it he https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 Thanks very much, that did the job! I had no idea I was using an "app". I thought VistaMail was called a program, or client if you will. I don't use any apps on no mobile phone. Just VM on two computers with Windows 7. Are all conventional clients, like Thunderbird etc. also considered unsafe by Google? They added OAUTH2 to Thunderbird, but I think Thunderbird users are expected to turn that off now. Maybe it's not working as intended this week ? I don't know the reasons not to use it. OAUTH2 requires a web client to do the authentication. This is a violation of "email clients use email authentication methods". However, to appease Google, Thunderbird (which is really a copy of Firefox and has a web rendering engine anyway), added support for OAUTH2. Now, whether that's enough to appease Google, who knows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oauth When you're dealing with Google for services, you're dealing with "a vending machine nobody services". Paul |
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"Paul" schreef in bericht
news Linea Recta wrote: "Nil" schreef in bericht ... On 03 Feb 2018, "Linea Recta" wrote in alt.windows7.general: I logged into my gmail account with chrome and "solved" a security risk by clicking the advised button. Now my settings are supposed to be more secure. As a result I cant log in anymore with my client Vista Mail, I keep getting a message to use the browser for web mail. I'm not a hacker, just dont want to use web mail. Wasted the whole day trying to turn this back. What can I do to return to the previous situation? Vista Mail is considered by Google to be a "less secure app". In order to use it, you have to go back to Google and allow less secure apps. It's really not "less secure", it just doesn't use Google's preferred security scheme. Google explains it he https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 Thanks very much, that did the job! I had no idea I was using an "app". I thought VistaMail was called a program, or client if you will. I don't use any apps on no mobile phone. Just VM on two computers with Windows 7. Are all conventional clients, like Thunderbird etc. also considered unsafe by Google? They added OAUTH2 to Thunderbird, but I think Thunderbird users are expected to turn that off now. Maybe it's not working as intended this week ? I don't know the reasons not to use it. OAUTH2 requires a web client to do the authentication. This is a violation of "email clients use email authentication methods". However, to appease Google, Thunderbird (which is really a copy of Firefox and has a web rendering engine anyway), added support for OAUTH2. Now, whether that's enough to appease Google, who knows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oauth When you're dealing with Google for services, you're dealing with "a vending machine nobody services". Paul Well, I suppose I'm getting old and having problems increasingly to keep up with developments, as they keep inventing new difficulties. Of course security is important and I use the google identification by cell phone number, using an old Nokia (with internet access disabled). I hope that's secure enough. The whole issue started with an unexpected e-mail from google. Nowadays I receive more e-mails "from companies" with "easy" links. I never use those because you can trust nobody nowadays. Criminals are imitating these sort of e-mails, so the only alternative seems to keep checking everything and doing everything by hand ALLWAYS. -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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Linea Recta wrote:
Today I received an e-mail "from Google" that a security check of my Google account has been updated to improve security. I received one of those. As an old anti-spam SpamCop participant I'm comfortable examining emails by parsing the trace headers to determine source. You can also examine the raw message for where a link wants to take you. For this mail, the source traceline: Received: from mail-sor-f69.google.com (mail-sor-f69.google.com. [209.85.220.69]) by mx.google.com with SMTPS id b16sor1043888ywa.508.2018.02.04.03.35.24 for munge (Google Transport Security); Sun, 04 Feb 2018 03:35:25 -0800 (PST) The 'target' or payload URL (for spam emails): https://myaccount.google.com/ It is all legitimate; so the answer to your subject qx in this case is, "Yes." -- Mike Easter |
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