Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?

ultred ragnusen wrote:
I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?

https://www.howtogeek.com/191378/how...ad-and-iphone/

Access a Shared Folder on iOS

[Windows serves, IOS client is third party "FileExplorer Free"]

I don't see anything to suggest AirDrop works on the Windows side.
And any iCloud garbage, is probably trapped there too.

You can always email a file to yourself. For fast service,
set up an email server in your home, eliminating external
transit and processing times.

If the equipment supports removable media, sneakernet
might be an option.

Paul

Paul wrote:

I don't see anything to suggest AirDrop works on the Windows side.
And any iCloud garbage, is probably trapped there too.

Thanks Paul for checking to see if AirDrop9tm) brand of ad-hoc
file-transfer services works with Windows or Linux (aka the real world),
but I doubt it, just as I know that the abomination that is iTunes doesn't
work on Linux (aka outside the walled garden).

For the record, I found a workable solution with only a few false starts
with obnoxious ad-ware programs on iOS and even worse, file-size or
file-number restricted solutions, where I came up with this freeware
solution that I don't think is restricted.

Here's my summary for the tribal knowledge archives...
http://i.cubeupload.com/aiCDCT.jpg

Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
A: Install the freeware Simple Transfer app on the iPad.
http://rambax.com/simpletransfer

I'm setting up the simplest way to transfer movies, photos, & screenshots
from a new iOS 11.x iPad to both Windows & Linux over the Wi-Fi LAN without
installing anything on the Windows/Linux desktop

For many good reasons, not the least of which is that the iTunes
abomination doesn't work in the real world, this method will not employ the
abomination that is iTunes, nor can it use the vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of
ad-hoc file-transfer services because that vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of
ad-hoc file-transfer services also does not work in the real world.

Here's the first solution that worked well.

1. I installed the free unrestricted (AFAIK) "Simple Transfer -
Photo+Video", by Rambax, LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/simp...eo/id420821506
where you can transfer your photos & videos as a single archive file
to/from Linux/Windows using a web browser pointed to
http://simpletransfer.rambax.com
which is on your local LAN (e.g., http://192.168.1.14).
http://i.cubeupload.com/aiCDCT.jpg

2. To copy photo/video files from the iPad to Linux/Windows, this "Simple
Transfer" app worked on iOS 11 and has various switches to make selection
and filtering easy, with the result being a single "All Photos.zip" file on
your Windows or Linux desktop without needing to install anything on the
Windows or Linux desktop.

3. To copy photo/video files from Linux/Windows to the iPad over the WiFi
LAN, I slid the files from the desktop onto the open browser above and they
copied over to the iPad with a message on the iPad popping up saying it
"Received test_photo.jpg".

I'll try a few other methods, but this method works nicely and, far better
than iTunes or that vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of ad-hoc file services, it
actually works in the real world (aka it works outside the walled garden).

In summary,
Q: What is one way to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
A: Install the unrestricted (AFAIK) freeware Simple Transfer app on the iPad.
http://rambax.com/simpletransfer

ultred ragnusen wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

Congratulations.

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?

Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.

John Doe wrote:

Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.

Since this is a new iOS 11.1.2 iPad on a new Windows 10 installation, I
decided to first try the USB method that works so well with Android.
http://i.cubeupload.com/OgSZr1.jpg

When I plugged the iOS 11.1.2 device into Windows 10 Creator's Edition,
up popped a series of three bottom-right notifications.
- Setting up a device. We're setting up 'iPad'.
- Apple iPad. Select to choose what happens with this device.
- Device is ready. 'Apple iPad' is set up and ready to go.

When I doubleclicked on the PC, a new "Apple iPad" showed up under "Devices
and Drives", which shows an empty "109GB free of 119GB" on the iPad.\

The iPad popped up a message "Allow this device to access photos and
videos", to which I selected "Allow".
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZIG92A.jpg

Then a single iPad "DCIM" directory showed in the Windows File Explorer.
PC Apple iPad Internal Storage DCIM

That single directory contained a small set of image files on the iPad.
PC Apple iPad Internal Storage DCIM 100APPLE IMG_0001.PNG

I could easily slide those iPad photo/video files to Windows over USB:
http://i.cubeupload.com/bDuiA6.jpg

Unfortunately, the reverse doesn't work.

When you slide a Windows image onto this DCIM folder, nothing happens.

So at the moment, I'm not sure if the USB method is only one way, or if
there is a trick to be able to put files from Windows to iOS over USB using
this method.

On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

ultred ragnusen wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

Congratulations.

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?

Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.

Good news! IOS devices can do that.

Regular troll...

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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look message.header wrote:

ultred ragnusen ultred ragnusen.com wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

Congratulations.

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?

Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.

Good news! IOS devices can do that.

Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

Good news! IOS devices can do that.

I have all the common operating systems in the real world:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. Linux
4. Windows
And all I expect is for them to play nice with each other.

This thread is only about iOS, where the one huge difference is that the
"visible" part of the iOS file system is limited to two things.
A. The space inside of the DCIM directory tree
B. The space inside non-Apple 3rd-party apps (such as file-transfer apps)

Given this is the "visible" part of the iOS file system, the trick is to
put things into those visible locations, which isn't a problem for camera
shots, camera videos, or screenshots.

As with all things iOS, it's much harder than it should be to simply put a
larger movie video or document downloaded off the web into a "visible" file
space, but it can be done, if the application allows it.

For example, on iOS, Safari allows download of this document to the
file-transfer program private space, but Chrome on iOS does not.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/to...amplepptx.pptx

If you use just the right software, and hit just the right buttons, then
you can place your files into the "visible" space (aka private space) of
the file-transfer programs.

Once your files are in "visible" space, then you can transfer those files
to Linux or Windows via at least these methods:
1. USB (I have this working only one way, & only for Camera files)
2. FTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
3. HTTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
4. SMB (I don't have enough knowledge of syntax yet to test this out)
5. BT (I don't have a Bluetooth PCI card or USB dongle on this desktop)
6. App-specific transfer (e.g., "File Explorer", "VLC", etc.)

On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

ultred ragnusen wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

Congratulations.

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?

Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.

As do Apple devices.

Regular troll...

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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look message.header wrote:

ultred ragnusen ultred ragnusen.com wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

Congratulations.

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?

Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.

As do Apple devices.

Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.

As do Apple devices.

It's true to a degree, just as it's true that cars are safe nowadays, to a
degree, where the primitive iOS architecture doesn't work all that well
over USB compared to a more modern mobile device architecture such as
Android.

For example, this is Android over USB on my Win10 desktop:
http://i.cubeupload.com/E69C5D.jpg

Since iOS file sharing is primitive compared to modern operating systems,
this is the best we can do, so far, when plugging in iOS to Windows:
http://i.cubeupload.com/d2zUb4.jpg

The good news is that this allows at least one way file transfer to at
least one directory tree, but other than that, the primitive iOS
infrastructure blocks the kind of modern two-way multi-folder transfer that
the more modern operating systems allow.
http://i.cubeupload.com/XG0um4.jpg

Remember, we're never going to install the iTunes abomination on Windows or
Linux, for a huge number of reasons, not the least that it's restrictive
software and restrictions aren't what we're seeking, nor does it work in
the real world anyway (which includes Linux).

ultred ragnusen wrote:
Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.
As do Apple devices.

It's true to a degree, just as it's true that cars are safe nowadays, to a
degree, where the primitive iOS architecture doesn't work all that well
over USB compared to a more modern mobile device architecture such as
Android.

For example, this is Android over USB on my Win10 desktop:
http://i.cubeupload.com/E69C5D.jpg

Since iOS file sharing is primitive compared to modern operating systems,
this is the best we can do, so far, when plugging in iOS to Windows:
http://i.cubeupload.com/d2zUb4.jpg

The good news is that this allows at least one way file transfer to at
least one directory tree, but other than that, the primitive iOS
infrastructure blocks the kind of modern two-way multi-folder transfer that
the more modern operating systems allow.
http://i.cubeupload.com/XG0um4.jpg

Remember, we're never going to install the iTunes abomination on Windows or
Linux, for a huge number of reasons, not the least that it's restrictive
software and restrictions aren't what we're seeking, nor does it work in
the real world anyway (which includes Linux).

There's nothing primitive about that.

It's a walled garden, intended to wall off the copying of commercial
content all over the place (except as vetted by iTunes policies,
whatever they are this week).

By exposing DCIM over MTP, unidirectional, that is an "emulation"
of a digital camera. Whatever is shot through the lens of the
camera on your iPad is "your" content, it doesn't belong to Getty
or anyone else. You can download the DCIM files, in the same
sense you can download files from DCIM on your regular digital camera.

Think of it as a digital camera emulation kinda outside the
walled garden, provided for your "convenience".

The model is still consistent with the Apple way of doing things.

When you buy Apple, you buy the whole package.

If the iPad could be rooted, maybe it could be different ?
I don't keep track of how root-able little smartphones
and **** are these days. What's the point ? If I need a
hassle or a nuisance, I now have a pretty good idea where
I can find it.

My digital camera doesn't have issues. I get the files
just fine. Mine isn't a Wifi model, but I bet there are
more modern cameras where the Wifi works too.

*******

It used to be possible, to take iTunes installer apart with
7ZIP, into separate installers, and just install a portion of
it. But I can't remember what protocols or options this exposes.
Maybe you can look this up somewhere ?

https://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...talling-itunes

Apple Mobile Device Support

https://www.ghacks.net/2017/06/12/ho...ts-on-windows/

"Apple Mobile Device Support

The program is required when you sync data between iTunes
and Apple mobile devices such as the iPad, iPhone, or the iPod.

If you uninstall the program, iTunes continues to work. You
won't be able to sync data to Apple devices anymore using
iTunes however because of the missing component."

I tried some search terms to see if I could catch any Windows
applications tapping into AMDS on their own.

https://support.imazing.com/hc/en-us...evice-Windows-

Which leads us here. Just an example of the kinda stuff to look for.

https://imazing.com/

I've taken apart the iTunes installer (maybe 70MB or so) a number
of times, and played with the individual component installers.
More modern versions have "interlocks" where one thing won't run
unless it can "sniff" some side effect from another. It's not
a guaranteed thing that the iTunes package today (which is now
sans QuickTime for Windows), can be abused. But if you go back
some number of releases, it might be a bit more exposed.

The developer ("imazing") should cover this part of the process
for you, and identify a "success formula" for abusing AMDS.

And that still doesn't say what portion of the file system they've
hacked that way. You won't know until you trial their stuff. It
might even be iOS version dependent (you pay for it, then Apple
breaks it on you). I think you probably know by now, what that
tune sounds like. As a former Apple user, I'm all too familiar
with their practices.

I bought a video card for my G4. And guess what happens ? On the
very next OS upgrade, there is *no* video driver, *and* the OS
blacklists the old driver. Sweet. So, I got out my Xacto knife,
my soldering iron, I cut the nads off that card, flashed the 128KB
ROM with a 64KB Windows ROM with CAS3 memory setting. Worked fine
in a PC and I got five years of gaming out of it. Until the Molex
power connector, a pin burned on it. I did get my moneys worth,
despite Apples best efforts to prevent me from enjoying my purchase.
So yeah, been there, bought the Tshirt. I had to continue running
the G4 from the provided (default) 9000 card.

HTH,
Paul

Paul wrote:

It's a walled garden, intended to wall off the copying of
commercial content all over the place (except as vetted by iTunes
policies, whatever they are this week).

You can't argue with success?

Paul wrote:

There's nothing primitive about that.

Hi Paul,
warning ... long reply

You're reasonable so I understand your point that "different" isn't
primitive, where I think I "can" argue primitive in functionality overall
for iOS - but most people only see "different".

For example, here's the app launcher on iOS as best it can be organized:
https://u.cubeupload.com/0Mattl.jpg

Here's that same setup on Android using a modern app launcher (where the
organization is meant for single-hand left-hand operation that fits my hand
size).
http://i.cubeupload.com/0Uldf2.jpg

Organizing like that is just not possible on iOS because, yes, iOS is
clearly different, but it's also clearly primitive in functionality.

There's no good reason for Apple to not allow people to put icons where
they want them on their mobile device desktop and to not allow people to
remove the dock if there's nothing inside of it.

Nonetheless, this isn't a discussion about iOS but it is a discussion of
HOW to interface what little there is of iOS that is interfacable with
Windows.

My biggest stumbling block is SMB because I don't know how to use it.
I can put an SMB server on iOS, such that the URL becomes:
smb://192.168.1.14
But I don't know what to do with that on Windows.

It's a walled garden, intended to wall off the copying of commercial
content all over the place (except as vetted by iTunes policies,
whatever they are this week).

Hi Paul,
Yes. I have had iOS products for many years, and I've used that iTunes
abomination well enough to know it's like a very bad guest in your house,
best left uninvited.

There's nothing that the iTunes abomination can do that we can't do on our
own, and, better yet - I happen to be dual boot, where whatever I set up
has to work in the real world (where Linux and Canada both exist in the
real world despite Apple not supporting them).

By exposing DCIM over MTP, unidirectional, that is an "emulation"
of a digital camera

Hi Paul,
Thanks for explaining that the iPad DCIM directory shows up as an emulated
camera.

I assumed that is what it was since on Linux, the iPad actually shows up as
a camera.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Qpq8Bc.png

Like a camera, it's only one way where you can't slide from Linux to the
iPad "camera" DCIM directory.
http://i.cubeupload.com/CmK9un.png

Whatever is shot through the lens of the
camera on your iPad is "your" content, it doesn't belong to Getty
or anyone else. You can download the DCIM files, in the same
sense you can download files from DCIM on your regular digital camera.

You are correct Paul, and I do very much understand exactly where you're
coming from when you mention "Getty", which, as we all know, Apple is
restrictive on what you can download "outside" of the Camera.

For example, here's a movie being downloaded from the desktop to the iPad
but using a non-Apple app, in this case, VLC, which has a two-way WiFi
capability for large movie transfer.
http://i.cubeupload.com/e5razP.jpg

So, the truth of the matter is that if you eschew Apple apps, you can
transfer anything you want back and forth, within reason.

There are still huge limitations on file formats that will play on iOS and
on what apps can do, but the rule of staying away from Apple apps is the
first rule to use if you want any degree of freedom.

Think of it as a digital camera emulation kinda outside the
walled garden, provided for your "convenience".

Hi Paul,
I certainly understand that the "concept" is supposed to be "it just works"
but the reality is that it's like being in prison in that you can't do the
simplest of things with iOS, such as organize your desktop the way you want
to, or, more to the point, to transfer files back and forth from Windows to
the iPad and vice versa at will.

Of course, that's my goal - to be able to transfer files easily, where I've
gotten the following working to some degree...
1. USB (I have this working only one way, & only for Camera files)
2. FTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
3. HTTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows)
4. SMB (I don't have enough knowledge of syntax yet to test this out)
5. BT (I don't have a Bluetooth PCI card or USB dongle on this desktop)
6. App-specific transfer (e.g., "File Explorer", "VLC", etc. work ok)

The model is still consistent with the Apple way of doing things.
When you buy Apple, you buy the whole package.

I realize, and I've said many times on the iOS newsgroups that the Apple
way is to "just give up" whenever you want to do something that Apple
marketing didn't already script for the user.

But I'm not that type. I don't just give up when Windows tries to update
me, just as I don't just give up whenever Apple tries to restrict me.

What's funny is that there is a definite hierarchy (IMHO) in the tendency
to just give up, where the iOS users just give up so often that they don't
even realize they give up every day all day and where the Linux users are
on the bottom where they never give up, and the Windows users are somewhere
in between.

If the iPad could be rooted, maybe it could be different ?

Yes. I've done both rooting and jailbreaking. But I prefer not to.

I don't keep track of how root-able little smartphones
and **** are these days. What's the point ? If I need a
hassle or a nuisance, I now have a pretty good idea where
I can find it.

Android rooting is so simple it's not funny. You just download an app such
as Kingoroot and run it. There are other methods, but that's one of the
simplest.
https://www.kingoapp.com/

My digital camera doesn't have issues. I get the files
just fine. Mine isn't a Wifi model, but I bet there are
more modern cameras where the Wifi works too.

USB is fine most of the time, but I have the iPad working over WiFi.
My biggest problem, so far, is smb since I don't understand it.

If I get this SMB URI out of an iPad, what can I do with it on Windows?]
smb://192.168.1.14
https://u.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg

It used to be possible, to take iTunes installer apart with
7ZIP, into separate installers, and just install a portion of
it. But I can't remember what protocols or options this exposes.
Maybe you can look this up somewhere ?

Oh, trust me on this that I'm a very old hand with that iTunes abomination,
where I've watched every file it puts and where it puts it. It's just too
much to deal with, since iTunes is an abomination anyway, even if you do
manage to get most of the crap it installs to behave.

Worse, it doesn't even work in the real world, so, when I dual boot, I've
gotten nowwhere (and please don't suggest Wine). I'm too old and hence too
experienced to deal with either iTunes or Wine anymore.
Tunes however because of the missing component."

https://support.imazing.com/hc/en-us...evice-Windows-

Which leads us here. Just an example of the kinda stuff to look for.

https://imazing.com/

First off, I haven't had to install /anything/ on Windows or Linux, which
is how it should be, and which is the goal, since that has the most
portability when it uses native Windows/Linux tools.

Nonetheless, since you bothered to find this iMazing App, I'll do a quick
review, but I already know it's crap because I'm too experienced not to
know it's not going to need all the crapware that iTunes add. Just wait and
see....

BTW, some of the file-transfer apps that do what iTunes does did NOT need
to install all the Apple crapware, such as the /older/ versions of
SharePod, which I still use all the time on my iPods.

However, I'm sure, just by looking at the webpage for the program you
found, that it's going to install all sorts of Apple-mandated bloatware ...
but let's see.

Remember, the goal is to work in the real world, and without any software
on the desktop, so this iMazing app is just a better version of the iTunes
abomination, most likely ... but ... let's check it out anyway.

First off, just as a check, it's not an iOS app:
http://i.cubeupload.com/4dJirT.jpg

So it won't work in the real world because it's a Windows/Mac app:
https://imazing.com/download/windows

And it will almost assuredly add unwanted services and other bloatware just
as the iTunes abomination does.

Nonetheless that it won't work in the real world, since you went to the
trouble to find iMazing, and since I know, from experience, that it won't
work in the real world, I figured I'd give you more data about that by
installing it, at least on Windows, if not on Linux.

Here's my installation log, which I write for all installers:
The iMazing 2.4.7.0 Windows executable download is 87.5MB.
It wants to go in C:\Program Files\DigiDNA\iMazing
I put it in C:\app\hardware\ios\imazing (122MB)

Just like with the iTunes abomination, the iMazing software downloads the
following dependencies:
Apple Application Support (32bit & 64 bit)
Apple Mobile Device Support 64 bit)
Apple Bonjour 64 bit
http://i.cubeupload.com/vfwHUW.jpg

Notice, just like the iTunes abomination, most of the software doesn't go
where you told it to go. For example, the Bonjour crapware didn't go where
you asked it to go; instead the Bonjour crapware went into:
C:\Program Files\Bonjour & C:\Program Files (x86)\Bonjour

This is some of the crapware that was added by the iMazing installer:
Apple Mobile Device Support 11.0.5.14
AppleApplicationSupport 6.3
AppleApplicationSupport4 6.3
Bonjour 3.1.0.1

In the task manager, there's a crapware "Bonjour service" & a crapware
"Apple Mobile Device Service" under "MobileDeviceService".

The iMazing app recognizes the iPad, but apparently only via USB:
http://i.cubeupload.com/t4DZ0b.jpg

The initial view only shows the Apple-mandated apps on the iPad, and none
of the app-transfer apps that I have loaded yet (but that comes later).
http://i.cubeupload.com/7VORmh.jpg

Namely it shows, by default, Camera, Photos, Music, Videos, iBooks,
Messages, Notes, Contacts, Phone, Apps, File System, and New Shortcut.

In addition, the actions that seem available are Back Up, Restore a Backup,
Transfer to another Device, Manage Apps, Options, Check Warranty, Sleep,
Restart, Shut Down, Export Raw Data, Show Device Console, Forget, Reinstall
iOS, and Erase All Content.

When I clicked "New Shortcut", now more apps showed up, namely
FileExplorer, GarageBand, iMovie, Keynote, MFExplorer, Numbers, Pages, Topo
Reader, VLC and WiFi HD.
http://i.cubeupload.com/30D3cf.jpg

So I added the non-Apple apps above to get this:
http://i.cubeupload.com/VpyM9u.jpg

Wanting to slide a movie into the private space of VLC, I clicked on VLC to
see this "copy to PC" and "copy to device" option for VLC's private space.
http://i.cubeupload.com/TpGPBJ.jpg

It asked me if I wanted to transfer a file or a folder, where I selected
"file" and then I selected a feature-length movie AVI file, where the first
limitation just popped up, which I expected but I didn't know what the
limitation would be (since they never make it clear at the start):
http://i.cubeupload.com/HP5Go7.jpg

The catch with iMazing, besides all the expected catches that it will never
work in the real world and that it requires bloatware on your computer and
bloatservices and that it doesn't behave itself etc., is that it doesn't
even work in the general sense for all users for any decent length of time.

The iMazing software is crippleware, limited to:
10 Messages
50 Photos
50 Music
5 Books
5 Notes
10 Contacts
5 Call History
1 Voicemail
3 Voice Memos
100 File Transfer
10 BackupExport

I deleted the iMazing crippleware after this quick test.

In summary, I am too experienced to believe there is any need for such
crippleware simply to transfer files back and forth from an iOS device to a
Windows or Linux desktop without having to install anything on the Windows
desktop.

However, while crippleware isn't for me, I do agree with you Paul, that if
someone hates the iTunes abomination, and if they're willing to purchase
this iMazing software and if they're not in the real world, then it should
work fine for copying files back and forth but only between Windows/Mac and
the iOS device.

On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 03:35:13 +0000 (UTC), ultred ragnusen wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the
iPad to Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over
either USB http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg


Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg


Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can
easily transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/
to Windows (like we do with Android)?

Dropbox.