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OEM Windows
Just a question regarding OEM Windows.
Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. |
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In message , noname
writes: Just a question regarding OEM Windows. Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. These terms tend to be used somewhat imprecisely. Full retail: can be used on any computer (though only one at a time), and transferred. The most expensive type (in UK, can cost similar to a whole new PC with preloaded Windows included). Another type (I think sometimes called "system builder"): can be installed on one PC, but not transferred to another PC. What "another PC" means is wooly - you can change things, like amount of RAM, disc drives, etc., as long as you don't change too much in too short a time so that it "thinks" it's been copied to a new PC. Different changes have different "weighting", with the change of a motherboard having the highest; if you change too much in too short a time, it will ask you to revalidate with Microsoft, possibly to the extent of having to convince someone over the 'phone (e. g. that your motherboard died). [It is my understanding that Windows 7 is more sophisticated in what it allows than XP was.] OEM in its purest meaning is Original Equipment Manufacturer, and refers to licences sold in large numbers to the big manufacturers (Dell etc.) for preinstallation. However, the term is sometimes used for licences (usually with installation media; the big OEM ones usually _don't_ have the media, as the machines are mass-produced and -loaded in the factory) for other types of construction. I think there are other types too. When you say you are using a OEM, do you mean a PC that came with Windows pre-installed, or - as I suspect, since you refer indirectly to its cost, which wouldn't be obvious as a separate component if you'd just bought a PC - Windows that came on media that you installed? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Charity sees the need not the cause. -German proverb |
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noname wrote:
Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? Yes. This is your very first experience with any version of Windows? Find End User License Terms for Microsoft Software Licensed by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal...s/Default.aspx Since you're asking about the OEM version which is usually pre-installed on a pre-built computer (or installed by a system builder which includes yourself should you elect that position), select the "Pre-installed" category. My selections led me to: http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...eTerms/Windows 7_Professional_English_b7a7153f-1a6c-498c-9350-c86926bb1aa9.pdf which says " The software license is permanently assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed." You didn't bother to mention WHICH edition you have. I picked the Professional edition (and pre-installed for OEM versions). If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. Really? OEM versions usually cost me about half of the retail full version. Maybe you were thinking of the retail upgrade version. Windows 7 OEM version: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116989 Windows 7 retail upgrade version: $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714 Windows 7 retail full version: $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116717 That's a $110 difference between full retail and OEM versions. |
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To clarify. I build my pc myself (its old now) and installed Win7 new
onto it. I had XP preciously but tossed it. The Version i got was labeld OEM. I am not sure where i read that Win7 OEM binds the OS to lets say a motherboard. What i want to do is to eventually build a new pc discard the old one (or load it with Linux) and install my OEM Win7 on the new pc. I haven't tried it so far since i only have one pc. On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 00:07:11 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , noname writes: Just a question regarding OEM Windows. Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. These terms tend to be used somewhat imprecisely. Full retail: can be used on any computer (though only one at a time), and transferred. The most expensive type (in UK, can cost similar to a whole new PC with preloaded Windows included). Another type (I think sometimes called "system builder"): can be installed on one PC, but not transferred to another PC. What "another PC" means is wooly - you can change things, like amount of RAM, disc drives, etc., as long as you don't change too much in too short a time so that it "thinks" it's been copied to a new PC. Different changes have different "weighting", with the change of a motherboard having the highest; if you change too much in too short a time, it will ask you to revalidate with Microsoft, possibly to the extent of having to convince someone over the 'phone (e. g. that your motherboard died). [It is my understanding that Windows 7 is more sophisticated in what it allows than XP was.] OEM in its purest meaning is Original Equipment Manufacturer, and refers to licences sold in large numbers to the big manufacturers (Dell etc.) for preinstallation. However, the term is sometimes used for licences (usually with installation media; the big OEM ones usually _don't_ have the media, as the machines are mass-produced and -loaded in the factory) for other types of construction. I think there are other types too. When you say you are using a OEM, do you mean a PC that came with Windows pre-installed, or - as I suspect, since you refer indirectly to its cost, which wouldn't be obvious as a separate component if you'd just bought a PC - Windows that came on media that you installed? |
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Now i check my box and it says OEM System Builder Pack
and on the label it says Win Home Prem 7 SP1 64bit English 1pk DSP OEI 611 DVD. I am confused right now. But i want to be clear once more. Its not a new computer and it did not came with the computer. I bought it off a store and installed it. Everything works fine but not sure if i can install it on a new pc or if i end up to have to buy a brand new copy. On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:22:14 -0600, VanguardLH wrote: noname wrote: Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? Yes. This is your very first experience with any version of Windows? Find End User License Terms for Microsoft Software Licensed by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal...s/Default.aspx Since you're asking about the OEM version which is usually pre-installed on a pre-built computer (or installed by a system builder which includes yourself should you elect that position), select the "Pre-installed" category. My selections led me to: http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...eTerms/Windows 7_Professional_English_b7a7153f-1a6c-498c-9350-c86926bb1aa9.pdf which says " The software license is permanently assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed." You didn't bother to mention WHICH edition you have. I picked the Professional edition (and pre-installed for OEM versions). If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. Really? OEM versions usually cost me about half of the retail full version. Maybe you were thinking of the retail upgrade version. Windows 7 OEM version: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116989 Windows 7 retail upgrade version: $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714 Windows 7 retail full version: $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116717 That's a $110 difference between full retail and OEM versions. |
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On 02/03/2012 8:17 PM, noname wrote:
To clarify. I build my pc myself (its old now) and installed Win7 new onto it. I had XP preciously but tossed it. The Version i got was labeld OEM. I am not sure where i read that Win7 OEM binds the OS to lets say a motherboard. What i want to do is to eventually build a new pc discard the old one (or load it with Linux) and install my OEM Win7 on the new pc. I haven't tried it so far since i only have one pc. Search on "move Windows 7 to new hardware", and you'll find: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/249694 It will tell what you need to know. Wolf K. "Google is your friend" |
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:17:00 -0800, noname
wrote: To clarify. I build my pc myself (its old now) and installed Win7 new onto it. I had XP preciously but tossed it. The Version i got was labeld OEM. That was a fine choice, but it didn't position you for the long term. I am not sure where i read that Win7 OEM binds the OS to lets say a motherboard. What i want to do is to eventually build a new pc discard the old one (or load it with Linux) and install my OEM Win7 on the new pc. That's exactly what OEM doesn't allow. You should have gone with an Upgrade or full Retail copy. Your choices now are to get another OEM version or move up to a higher edition. -- Char Jackson |
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On 02/03/2012 9:19 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 02/03/2012 8:17 PM, noname wrote: To clarify. I build my pc myself (its old now) and installed Win7 new onto it. I had XP preciously but tossed it. The Version i got was labeld OEM. I am not sure where i read that Win7 OEM binds the OS to lets say a motherboard. What i want to do is to eventually build a new pc discard the old one (or load it with Linux) and install my OEM Win7 on the new pc. I haven't tried it so far since I only have one pc. Search on "move Windows 7 to new hardware", and you'll find: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/249694 It will tell what you need to know. Wolf K. "Google is your friend" And this URL basically tells you'll have to buy a new copy ("licence") when you build a new computer: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...9-fa1078481d83 HTH, Wolf K. |
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On 3/02/2012, noname posted:
Now i check my box and it says OEM System Builder Pack and on the label it says Win Home Prem 7 SP1 64bit English 1pk DSP OEI 611 DVD. I am confused right now. But i want to be clear once more. Its not a new computer and it did not came with the computer. I bought it off a store and installed it. Everything works fine but not sure if i can install it on a new pc or if i end up to have to buy a brand new copy. Many people have said it in this thread: OEM can not be transferred to a new computer. O-E-M CAN NOT BE TRANSFERRED. On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:22:14 -0600, VanguardLH wrote: noname wrote: Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? Yes. This is your very first experience with any version of Windows? Find End User License Terms for Microsoft Software Licensed by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal...s/Default.aspx Since you're asking about the OEM version which is usually pre-installed on a pre-built computer (or installed by a system builder which includes yourself should you elect that position), select the "Pre-installed" category. My selections led me to: http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...eTerms/Windows 7_Professional_English_b7a7153f-1a6c-498c-9350-c86926bb1aa9.pdf which says " The software license is permanently assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed." You didn't bother to mention WHICH edition you have. I picked the Professional edition (and pre-installed for OEM versions). If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. Really? OEM versions usually cost me about half of the retail full version. Maybe you were thinking of the retail upgrade version. Windows 7 OEM version: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116989 Windows 7 retail upgrade version: $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714 Windows 7 retail full version: $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116717 That's a $110 difference between full retail and OEM versions. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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noname wrote:
Now i check my box and it says OEM System Builder Pack and on the label it says Win Home Prem 7 SP1 64bit English 1pk DSP OEI 611 DVD. But i want to be clear once more. Its not a new computer and it did not came with the computer. I bought it off a store and installed it. Everything works fine but not sure if i can install it on a new pc or if i end up to have to buy a brand new copy. The "system builder" license is what was previously called the OEM license. A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet. http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/lice...ges/index.aspx You buy the SB licensed product and then later you, the system builder, install it. It is an OEM license that you put onto a pre-built computer. That the computer gets "distributed" by you to you doesn't change that you elected to be the original equipment manufacturer (OEM) or the system builder. You bought an OEM licensed product. You chose to be the system builder. You perform the OS install. You distribute the pre-installed OS on the pre-built computer. That the pre-installed pre-built platform was distributed to yourself doesn't change your licensing role. |
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:22:14 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
noname wrote: Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? Yes. This is your very first experience with any version of Windows? Find End User License Terms for Microsoft Software Licensed by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal...s/Default.aspx Since you're asking about the OEM version which is usually pre-installed on a pre-built computer (or installed by a system builder which includes yourself should you elect that position), select the "Pre-installed" category. My selections led me to: http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...eTerms/Windows 7_Professional_English_b7a7153f-1a6c-498c-9350-c86926bb1aa9.pdf which says " The software license is permanently assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed." You didn't bother to mention WHICH edition you have. I picked the Professional edition (and pre-installed for OEM versions). If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. Really? OEM versions usually cost me about half of the retail full version. Maybe you were thinking of the retail upgrade version. Windows 7 OEM version: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116989 Windows 7 retail upgrade version: $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714 Windows 7 retail full version: $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116717 That's a $110 difference between full retail and OEM versions. $99.00 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Windows+...ci_sku=2731899 |
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In message , noname
writes: Now i check my box and it says OEM System Builder Pack and on the label it says Win Home Prem 7 SP1 64bit English 1pk DSP OEI 611 DVD. I am confused right now. But i want to be clear once more. Its not a new computer and it did not came with the computer. I bought it off a store and installed it. Everything works fine but not sure if i can install it on a new pc or if i end up to have to buy a brand new copy. [] From what others have said, you can't _move_ it to a new (different) computer - that's why it's cheaper than the full version, which you can (only one computer at a time, though). You may be able to _gradually_ turn your old computer into a new one, a bit at a time: it does allow you to make small changes, to allow people to upgrade their system (add more RAM or extra drives, for example). Each type of hardware change has a score, a number of points, assigned to it. It allows you to make up to a certain level of changes; the score goes down after a certain time. Be aware that a motherboard has a very high score, partly because it includes some things that could be separate hardware (such as a network "card"). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ?pu gnickab yb naem uoy tahw siht sI |
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Allen Drake wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: noname wrote: Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? Yes. This is your very first experience with any version of Windows? Find End User License Terms for Microsoft Software Licensed by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal...s/Default.aspx Since you're asking about the OEM version which is usually pre-installed on a pre-built computer (or installed by a system builder which includes yourself should you elect that position), select the "Pre-installed" category. My selections led me to: http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...eTerms/Windows 7_Professional_English_b7a7153f-1a6c-498c-9350-c86926bb1aa9.pdf which says " The software license is permanently assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed." You didn't bother to mention WHICH edition you have. I picked the Professional edition (and pre-installed for OEM versions). If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. Really? OEM versions usually cost me about half of the retail full version. Maybe you were thinking of the retail upgrade version. Windows 7 OEM version: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116989 Windows 7 retail upgrade version: $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714 Windows 7 retail full version: $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116717 That's a $110 difference between full retail and OEM versions. $99.00 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Windows+...ci_sku=2731899 Forgot to mention that the prices that I exampled were for the Professional version. I don't waste my time with the Home editions. Windows 7 Home OEM: $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986 Windows 7 Home retail upgrade: $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116713 Windows 7 Home retail full: $190 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986 Still a huge savings going OEM versus retail full version whether for the Home or Professional editions. I'd like to know where the OP would have been able to obtain the full retail version "which wasn't even that much more expensive" than the OEM version. |
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 18:27:49 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote: On 3/02/2012, noname posted: Now i check my box and it says OEM System Builder Pack and on the label it says Win Home Prem 7 SP1 64bit English 1pk DSP OEI 611 DVD. I am confused right now. But i want to be clear once more. Its not a new computer and it did not came with the computer. I bought it off a store and installed it. Everything works fine but not sure if i can install it on a new pc or if i end up to have to buy a brand new copy. Many people have said it in this thread: OEM can not be transferred to a new computer. O-E-M CAN NOT BE TRANSFERRED. On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:22:14 -0600, VanguardLH wrote: noname wrote: Right now i use a OEM but i was reading that OEM is bound to particular hardware. That would mean that i can not install this OEM on a new pc. Is this true? Yes. This is your very first experience with any version of Windows? Find End User License Terms for Microsoft Software Licensed by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal...s/Default.aspx Since you're asking about the OEM version which is usually pre-installed on a pre-built computer (or installed by a system builder which includes yourself should you elect that position), select the "Pre-installed" category. My selections led me to: http://download.microsoft.com/Docume...eTerms/Windows 7_Professional_English_b7a7153f-1a6c-498c-9350-c86926bb1aa9.pdf which says " The software license is permanently assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed." You didn't bother to mention WHICH edition you have. I picked the Professional edition (and pre-installed for OEM versions). If i knew that i would have bought the fullversion which wasn't even that much more expensive. Really? OEM versions usually cost me about half of the retail full version. Maybe you were thinking of the retail upgrade version. Windows 7 OEM version: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116989 Windows 7 retail upgrade version: $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714 Windows 7 retail full version: $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116717 That's a $110 difference between full retail and OEM versions. Can not or should not? I have done it so maybe you care to clarify. |
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In message , VanguardLH
writes: [] Forgot to mention that the prices that I exampled were for the Professional version. I don't waste my time with the Home editions. Out of interest, why do you say that - what is missing from the home editions that would make them a waste of your time? [] Still a huge savings going OEM versus retail full version whether for the Home or Professional editions. I'd like to know where the OP would have been able to obtain the full retail version "which wasn't even that much more expensive" than the OEM version. Ditto - though of course he may have been overcharged for the OEM one (-:. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf This space unintentionally left blank. |
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