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XP SP1 slow to start up
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . |
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XP SP1 slow to start up
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . |
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XP SP1 slow to start up
Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . |
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Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . |
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Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only
difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . |
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I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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Chris and Rocket,
I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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Chris and Rocket,
I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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Chris and Rocket,
I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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XP SP1 slow to start up
Chris and Rocket,
I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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XP SP1 slow to start up
Chris and Rocket,
I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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XP SP1 slow to start up
Chris and Rocket,
I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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A thoughtful step by step approach is usually the wisest way. Good show.
"Looking [at] a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled..." Be careful with that, because the configuration of services depends in part on how the computer is setup, so it will vary from system to system. Rocky "Marcus" wrote in message ... Chris and Rocket, I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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A thoughtful step by step approach is usually the wisest way. Good show.
"Looking [at] a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled..." Be careful with that, because the configuration of services depends in part on how the computer is setup, so it will vary from system to system. Rocky "Marcus" wrote in message ... Chris and Rocket, I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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"Looking [at] a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled..." Be careful with that, because the configuration of services depends in part on how the computer is setup, so it will vary from system to system. Rocky "Marcus" wrote in message ... Chris and Rocket, I found the problem. This is what I did in msconfig. 1. Did diagnostic boot = worked 2. Enabled all on both WIN.ini and System.ini = worked 3. Enabled all startup options = worked, therefore it was a problem with a service, so... 4. Looking a brand new XP PC, enabled all the services it had enabled = didn't work 5. Noticed workstation service was pending start up, so I disabled this service = worked 6. Can't re-install or fix this vital service, so I am now backing up and rebuilding the machine. -----Original Message----- Link Didn't work Marcus Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Hey Chris. Here is a link to the specs on my PC. Only difference is, I am on XP Pro and have XP Pro Office. Canon LIDE30 scanner, Canon i960 printer, http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml? reg=&plc=&lc=en&cc=us&cat=prodinfo&prodId=compaqpr es94109&d ocName=c00009572 -----Original Message----- OK. Need some info on your computer such as RAM, Processor, HD Size, Blah Blah Etc........... Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start up is still slow!!! Arghh! - Upgraded real player, - disabled the remote services mentioned above, - deleted the windows prefetch files, and also - uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled. Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq- rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine from what I've read. -----Original Message----- I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all. Chris "Marcus" wrote in message ... Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote Access ones? Marcus -----Original Message----- I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way 1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig 2)Under the services tab disable : a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager b) Remote Access Conection Manager c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager 3) Click Apply and then ok 4) Restart and you should be running fine "marcus" wrote in message ... Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I need to unistall my scanner drivers and re- install, but I don't know what else to do.... Anyone here have any solutions??? Marcus *********************** Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario 6031 became very slow to start up after logging in. Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online. Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage. First I used system restore to a former point. This worked for a couple reboots, then it was back. Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and this didn't work either. I then uninstalled other applications that launch during start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help. I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not necessary from start up list. This didn't help. I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of the registry. Still didn't work. I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it still started up slow. I am now stuck and don't know what else to do. I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002 works better with a specified or static IP address, but I don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server. I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV, the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure this will help either. Any thoughts? Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots.... Registered: Jul 10, 2003 Reply Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier... Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113 Last Modified:04/01/2004 JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36 PM Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL Registered: Jun 30, 2003 Reply I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem. Here are a couple of thoughts. 1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little time to boot-up. 2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and see if that might help. They will be automatically recreated if needed. 3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to load very slowly. Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:21 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my PC, so this didn't help. Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton related now. CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:25 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply See this http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? kbid=819634 Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:26 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply John D, When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the internet. It waits until everything has started up to actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected. XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea... Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but it does not start up until launched. Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up automatically, but this did nothing either. I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well. Marcus CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:34 AM Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas Registered: Oct 7, 2003 Reply Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or NIS are having this problem... Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004 11:35 AM Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004 Reply Cajun Tek, Read the article and I can try win update again, but when I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I didn't really need. Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem, then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know. Marcus Message was edited by: Anonymous . . . . |
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