USB cable and new hardware detection

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:24:29 +0100, "Tim Meddick"
wrote:

Gene,
I don't want to fight here, my intention is to help by telling what
I know and then you pick up on what you want. I'm not forcing my opinion on
anyone!
Just to clarify my thoughts on this: I sincerely believe that a USB
cable (especially a simple extension cable) with NOTHING at the end of it
should in NO WAY make your computer behave like there is. That is all there
is to my logic. Nothing 'cleverer' than that, I'm afraid.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

Yeah... but what "should" happen and what IS happening are two
different things.

The problem follows the cable from port to port.

It IS the cable.

Perhaps - grasping at straws here - the extension cable is the wrong
USB version?



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...
Hey guys, I've tried not 1 but 2 USB extension cables from very
different sources. Same "Hardware Not Found Wizard" with both on boot
up. Possibly both are bad, but first, are there other possible
explanations?

Gene

Jose wrote:

Sounds to me like the problem follows the cable.

Do you have a similar cable to the suspect cable you can try?

Do you have another computer you can plug the suspect cable into to
see what happens?

Gene,

I believe the "Universal Plug & Play" for USB connections and devices is
handle slightly differently in Windows XP, than in Win98, Win98SE, and
WinME.



If you turn off your camera, before you disconnect it from the cable,
leaving the cable attached to PC. That act disassociates the assignment of
the USB port for the camera. So when you reboot PC, and just the cable is
attached, the found new hardware wizard does not run. For a lot of digital
cameras, there is no need to install additional drivers from the
manufacturer. An easier explanation, is in many cases, XP handles Digital
camera like a flash drive or external HDD, assigning it a drive letter. So
that the generic drivers present in XP is sufficient, to copy and paste the
files from the camera to the PC's HDD.



I'm not an electrician, but I would think that if there is an USB cable
connected to an USB port, there is a slight load on the connector. And the
PC will detect there is a connection present on that port. When you shut
down XP, you should see an advisory that Windows is saving settings. So when
you boot up again, it will be looking for a connection on that port. If you
have removed that cable, while the PC was off, then during startup it can't
find a connection, it will change the status for that port as no connection
present. So if you reconnect the cable or device to the same Port, it might
run the new hardware wizard, even though you are connecting the same
cable/device to the same USB port.



But if you move or connect USB devices, such as USB connected wired and
wireless mice, keyboards, USB headsets, USB external HDD, Bluetooth
connectors, etc... The new found hardware wizard might run at start-up.



1. I have a USB 2.0 7-Port Hub connected to my Dell Dimension E521, and have
a USB headset connected to it. If I move the plug to a different connector
on the hub, the new hardware wizard will run, and installed the generic
driver for audio devices to that port.



2. I also have a Dell Dimension 4600, that came originally with a PS/2
mouse. If I use an USB mouse, and change the USB port for it, with the PS/2
mouse disconnected. Windows will hang during startup, because it is looking
for the USB mouse in one place and can't find it, and also can't find a PS/2
mouse during startup. My only solutions in that case:

a. Is to attach a PS/2 mouse to the PC, reboot PC, so that it will run
the Windows startup, and then find the USB mouse at the new location.

b. Reconnect USB mouse to original USB port it was at, and then reboot
PC.

c. Boot up in Safe Mode, then delete the USB controller entries in the
Device Manager, reboot PC, and then let the USB controllers, and USB devices
be detected again, and drivers installed.





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"Rich/rerat" wrote:

Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when
first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in
the
same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run
the
found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device
and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation,
if
this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that
takes a few minutes after boot-up.

Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon
will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and
turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port.
This
will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital
cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected.

This sounds sensible, but I don't recall what you're describing
having occurred with the camera. I'll have to experiment a bit and get
back here. Thanks.

Gene

Gene,

I believe the "Universal Plug & Play" for USB connections and devices is
handle slightly differently in Windows XP, than in Win98, Win98SE, and
WinME.



If you turn off your camera, before you disconnect it from the cable,
leaving the cable attached to PC. That act disassociates the assignment of
the USB port for the camera. So when you reboot PC, and just the cable is
attached, the found new hardware wizard does not run. For a lot of digital
cameras, there is no need to install additional drivers from the
manufacturer. An easier explanation, is in many cases, XP handles Digital
camera like a flash drive or external HDD, assigning it a drive letter. So
that the generic drivers present in XP is sufficient, to copy and paste the
files from the camera to the PC's HDD.



I'm not an electrician, but I would think that if there is an USB cable
connected to an USB port, there is a slight load on the connector. And the
PC will detect there is a connection present on that port. When you shut
down XP, you should see an advisory that Windows is saving settings. So when
you boot up again, it will be looking for a connection on that port. If you
have removed that cable, while the PC was off, then during startup it can't
find a connection, it will change the status for that port as no connection
present. So if you reconnect the cable or device to the same Port, it might
run the new hardware wizard, even though you are connecting the same
cable/device to the same USB port.



But if you move or connect USB devices, such as USB connected wired and
wireless mice, keyboards, USB headsets, USB external HDD, Bluetooth
connectors, etc... The new found hardware wizard might run at start-up.



1. I have a USB 2.0 7-Port Hub connected to my Dell Dimension E521, and have
a USB headset connected to it. If I move the plug to a different connector
on the hub, the new hardware wizard will run, and installed the generic
driver for audio devices to that port.



2. I also have a Dell Dimension 4600, that came originally with a PS/2
mouse. If I use an USB mouse, and change the USB port for it, with the PS/2
mouse disconnected. Windows will hang during startup, because it is looking
for the USB mouse in one place and can't find it, and also can't find a PS/2
mouse during startup. My only solutions in that case:

a. Is to attach a PS/2 mouse to the PC, reboot PC, so that it will run
the Windows startup, and then find the USB mouse at the new location.

b. Reconnect USB mouse to original USB port it was at, and then reboot
PC.

c. Boot up in Safe Mode, then delete the USB controller entries in the
Device Manager, reboot PC, and then let the USB controllers, and USB devices
be detected again, and drivers installed.





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...
"Rich/rerat" wrote:

Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when
first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in
the
same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run
the
found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device
and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation,
if
this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that
takes a few minutes after boot-up.

Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon
will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and
turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port.
This
will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital
cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected.

This sounds sensible, but I don't recall what you're describing
having occurred with the camera. I'll have to experiment a bit and get
back here. Thanks.

Gene

Danny Williams wrote:

Yeah... but what "should" happen and what IS happening are two
different things.

The problem follows the cable from port to port.

It IS the cable.

Perhaps - grasping at straws here - the extension cable is the wrong
USB version?

Both port and cable are 2.0. See Rich's posts above.

Gene

Danny Williams wrote:

Yeah... but what "should" happen and what IS happening are two
different things.

The problem follows the cable from port to port.

It IS the cable.

Perhaps - grasping at straws here - the extension cable is the wrong
USB version?

Both port and cable are 2.0. See Rich's posts above.

Gene

Thanks Rich. Very interesting (as computer matter go). I suspect
you're right about the slight load. Since I had a couple of Unknown
Devices in Device Mgr (probably from the AV Capture), I disabled
them, plugged in the two cables (camera + extension) and rebooted. No
hardware messages. Next time I'll be sure to turn off the camera first
and close the AV capture software before disconnecting them from their
respective cables, and then see what happens. Thanks.

Gene

"Rich/rerat" wrote:

Gene,

I believe the "Universal Plug & Play" for USB connections and devices is
handle slightly differently in Windows XP, than in Win98, Win98SE, and
WinME.



If you turn off your camera, before you disconnect it from the cable,
leaving the cable attached to PC. That act disassociates the assignment of
the USB port for the camera. So when you reboot PC, and just the cable is
attached, the found new hardware wizard does not run. For a lot of digital
cameras, there is no need to install additional drivers from the
manufacturer. An easier explanation, is in many cases, XP handles Digital
camera like a flash drive or external HDD, assigning it a drive letter. So
that the generic drivers present in XP is sufficient, to copy and paste the
files from the camera to the PC's HDD.

I'm not an electrician, but I would think that if there is an USB cable
connected to an USB port, there is a slight load on the connector. And the
PC will detect there is a connection present on that port. When you shut
down XP, you should see an advisory that Windows is saving settings. So when
you boot up again, it will be looking for a connection on that port. If you
have removed that cable, while the PC was off, then during startup it can't
find a connection, it will change the status for that port as no connection
present. So if you reconnect the cable or device to the same Port, it might
run the new hardware wizard, even though you are connecting the same
cable/device to the same USB port.

But if you move or connect USB devices, such as USB connected wired and
wireless mice, keyboards, USB headsets, USB external HDD, Bluetooth
connectors, etc... The new found hardware wizard might run at start-up.

1. I have a USB 2.0 7-Port Hub connected to my Dell Dimension E521, and have
a USB headset connected to it. If I move the plug to a different connector
on the hub, the new hardware wizard will run, and installed the generic
driver for audio devices to that port.

2. I also have a Dell Dimension 4600, that came originally with a PS/2
mouse. If I use an USB mouse, and change the USB port for it, with the PS/2
mouse disconnected. Windows will hang during startup, because it is looking
for the USB mouse in one place and can't find it, and also can't find a PS/2
mouse during startup. My only solutions in that case:

a. Is to attach a PS/2 mouse to the PC, reboot PC, so that it will run
the Windows startup, and then find the USB mouse at the new location.

b. Reconnect USB mouse to original USB port it was at, and then reboot
PC.

c. Boot up in Safe Mode, then delete the USB controller entries in the
Device Manager, reboot PC, and then let the USB controllers, and USB devices
be detected again, and drivers installed.





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wrote in message
...
"Rich/rerat" wrote:

Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when
first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in
the
same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run
the
found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device
and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation,
if
this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that
takes a few minutes after boot-up.

Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon
will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and
turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port.
This
will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital
cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected.

This sounds sensible, but I don't recall what you're describing
having occurred with the camera. I'll have to experiment a bit and get
back here. Thanks.

Gene

Thanks Rich. Very interesting (as computer matter go). I suspect
you're right about the slight load. Since I had a couple of Unknown
Devices in Device Mgr (probably from the AV Capture), I disabled
them, plugged in the two cables (camera + extension) and rebooted. No
hardware messages. Next time I'll be sure to turn off the camera first
and close the AV capture software before disconnecting them from their
respective cables, and then see what happens. Thanks.

Gene

"Rich/rerat" wrote:

Gene,

I believe the "Universal Plug & Play" for USB connections and devices is
handle slightly differently in Windows XP, than in Win98, Win98SE, and
WinME.



If you turn off your camera, before you disconnect it from the cable,
leaving the cable attached to PC. That act disassociates the assignment of
the USB port for the camera. So when you reboot PC, and just the cable is
attached, the found new hardware wizard does not run. For a lot of digital
cameras, there is no need to install additional drivers from the
manufacturer. An easier explanation, is in many cases, XP handles Digital
camera like a flash drive or external HDD, assigning it a drive letter. So
that the generic drivers present in XP is sufficient, to copy and paste the
files from the camera to the PC's HDD.

I'm not an electrician, but I would think that if there is an USB cable
connected to an USB port, there is a slight load on the connector. And the
PC will detect there is a connection present on that port. When you shut
down XP, you should see an advisory that Windows is saving settings. So when
you boot up again, it will be looking for a connection on that port. If you
have removed that cable, while the PC was off, then during startup it can't
find a connection, it will change the status for that port as no connection
present. So if you reconnect the cable or device to the same Port, it might
run the new hardware wizard, even though you are connecting the same
cable/device to the same USB port.

But if you move or connect USB devices, such as USB connected wired and
wireless mice, keyboards, USB headsets, USB external HDD, Bluetooth
connectors, etc... The new found hardware wizard might run at start-up.

1. I have a USB 2.0 7-Port Hub connected to my Dell Dimension E521, and have
a USB headset connected to it. If I move the plug to a different connector
on the hub, the new hardware wizard will run, and installed the generic
driver for audio devices to that port.

2. I also have a Dell Dimension 4600, that came originally with a PS/2
mouse. If I use an USB mouse, and change the USB port for it, with the PS/2
mouse disconnected. Windows will hang during startup, because it is looking
for the USB mouse in one place and can't find it, and also can't find a PS/2
mouse during startup. My only solutions in that case:

a. Is to attach a PS/2 mouse to the PC, reboot PC, so that it will run
the Windows startup, and then find the USB mouse at the new location.

b. Reconnect USB mouse to original USB port it was at, and then reboot
PC.

c. Boot up in Safe Mode, then delete the USB controller entries in the
Device Manager, reboot PC, and then let the USB controllers, and USB devices
be detected again, and drivers installed.





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wrote in message
...
"Rich/rerat" wrote:

Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when
first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in
the
same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run
the
found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device
and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation,
if
this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that
takes a few minutes after boot-up.

Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon
will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and
turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port.
This
will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital
cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected.

This sounds sensible, but I don't recall what you're describing
having occurred with the camera. I'll have to experiment a bit and get
back here. Thanks.

Gene

Indications are that the cable is acting like an antenna. Try grounding the
loose end to the frame of your computer and see if it fixes the problem.
Ground the ground shield only. Do not ground the wires.
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...
XP/SP3. I already wrote what the messages say. Found New Hardware
Wizard is a stock XP one; it's also the one that comes up with Scan for
Hardware in Device Manager. That Wizard wants to identify the
associated software, but in this case there isn't any - unless as an
earlier post (Rich) suggest, it's a port=hardware association left over
from earlier, i.e., never released. In Device Manager, there is in
yellow: "Other Devices," with two "Unknown Devices" under it. That's
what this is all about. I did several anti-malware runs this weekend,
as I got hit by the gaopdx-Win32/heur virus Friday. In the process I
did a full scan MBAM and AVG runs (neither are very thorough), before
switching over to Avira, which is super. Fortunately, I caught it
quickly and my computer is clean now. The cable/hardware problem is
unrelated.

Gene

Jose wrote:


There is no Hardware Not Found Wizard, but I know what you mean.

Let's say it is not the cables and it is the computer for a few
minutes.

I asked before to please try to tell us exactly what the messages say,
what the options are, etc. It may seem redundant and frustrating to
you, but now your last post does not match your first, at least in the
wording, so I am getting a little mixed up, or maybe just missing
something.

If you turn on your computer with this cable plugged in and nothing on
the other end of it, you see this exact message. From the available
options, you choose to... We are quite blind, so words are
important. Just get it down to one cable. I agree that it is
unlikely that two cable are going to be bad. They only have 4 wires.

What are the details (part number, manufacture) of your USB extension
cable? I would like to look it up if I can.

Have you tried the cables on another XP computer? If there is no
problem, we can say it is not the cables and we won't have to talk
about cables anymore..

What Windows XP Service Pack are you running?

If you have not done so, please download, update the database and run
a full scan with Malwarebytes MBAM free product. No matter what other
anti-whatever program you already have, please tell us you did this
part.

I also asked before to look in the Device Manager for any yellow
question marks, red X errors, etc. Have you done that but forgotten
to post your findings from Device Manager? Maybe we skipped that
step, but if there is an error there, we need to fix it. Could be the
whole problem!

Another thing to do while you are in Device Manager is to choose to
Scan for new hardware, just to see what it says.

Indications are that the cable is acting like an antenna. Try grounding the
loose end to the frame of your computer and see if it fixes the problem.
Ground the ground shield only. Do not ground the wires.
wrote in message
...
XP/SP3. I already wrote what the messages say. Found New Hardware
Wizard is a stock XP one; it's also the one that comes up with Scan for
Hardware in Device Manager. That Wizard wants to identify the
associated software, but in this case there isn't any - unless as an
earlier post (Rich) suggest, it's a port=hardware association left over
from earlier, i.e., never released. In Device Manager, there is in
yellow: "Other Devices," with two "Unknown Devices" under it. That's
what this is all about. I did several anti-malware runs this weekend,
as I got hit by the gaopdx-Win32/heur virus Friday. In the process I
did a full scan MBAM and AVG runs (neither are very thorough), before
switching over to Avira, which is super. Fortunately, I caught it
quickly and my computer is clean now. The cable/hardware problem is
unrelated.

Gene

Jose wrote:


There is no Hardware Not Found Wizard, but I know what you mean.

Let's say it is not the cables and it is the computer for a few
minutes.

I asked before to please try to tell us exactly what the messages say,
what the options are, etc. It may seem redundant and frustrating to
you, but now your last post does not match your first, at least in the
wording, so I am getting a little mixed up, or maybe just missing
something.

If you turn on your computer with this cable plugged in and nothing on
the other end of it, you see this exact message. From the available
options, you choose to... We are quite blind, so words are
important. Just get it down to one cable. I agree that it is
unlikely that two cable are going to be bad. They only have 4 wires.

What are the details (part number, manufacture) of your USB extension
cable? I would like to look it up if I can.

Have you tried the cables on another XP computer? If there is no
problem, we can say it is not the cables and we won't have to talk
about cables anymore..

What Windows XP Service Pack are you running?

If you have not done so, please download, update the database and run
a full scan with Malwarebytes MBAM free product. No matter what other
anti-whatever program you already have, please tell us you did this
part.

I also asked before to look in the Device Manager for any yellow
question marks, red X errors, etc. Have you done that but forgotten
to post your findings from Device Manager? Maybe we skipped that
step, but if there is an error there, we need to fix it. Could be the
whole problem!

Another thing to do while you are in Device Manager is to choose to
Scan for new hardware, just to see what it says.

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Gene,
But, at the risk of repeating myself, one more time.

If, as you say, it is a left-over association to a device that is no
longer attached WHY should the computer query that there is ANY device there
when NONE is actually attached! There being NOTHING at the end of the cable
no Wizard should be activated at all!!

The state of the computer's hardware detection in the presence of a
cable attached to NOTHING should be EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE EMPTY USB PORT!
Nothing more to say.

Disabling the Unknown Devices in Device Mgr, plugging in both cables
and rebooting ended the hardware messages. See Rich's ideas earlier in
this thread for why that might be the case.

Here's the problem with your posts: With the strange happenings
(redirection) in MS thread on Friday, you suggested my browser
is incapable of redirecting without first asking which browser I'm
using. Moreover, are there any browsers that are incapable of
redirecting?? They'd be useless on the internet, since redirecting is
standard.

Then with this thread, you argued that the cables had to be shorted
without first asking if they worked ok when devices were attached to
them.

Twice is a habit. They tell me you're eager to help, but in over your
head.

Gene

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Gene,
But, at the risk of repeating myself, one more time.

If, as you say, it is a left-over association to a device that is no
longer attached WHY should the computer query that there is ANY device there
when NONE is actually attached! There being NOTHING at the end of the cable
no Wizard should be activated at all!!

The state of the computer's hardware detection in the presence of a
cable attached to NOTHING should be EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE EMPTY USB PORT!
Nothing more to say.

Disabling the Unknown Devices in Device Mgr, plugging in both cables
and rebooting ended the hardware messages. See Rich's ideas earlier in
this thread for why that might be the case.

Here's the problem with your posts: With the strange happenings
(redirection) in MS thread on Friday, you suggested my browser
is incapable of redirecting without first asking which browser I'm
using. Moreover, are there any browsers that are incapable of
redirecting?? They'd be useless on the internet, since redirecting is
standard.

Then with this thread, you argued that the cables had to be shorted
without first asking if they worked ok when devices were attached to
them.

Twice is a habit. They tell me you're eager to help, but in over your
head.

Gene

Gene,
You can say "Hey, Tim, you know what - YOU'RE WRONG" but fine, who
hopes to be right all the time? There's a problem if I'm wrong MORE often
that I'm right, but if you think that you're just being insulting because
it's clearly NOT the case. I am eager to help and the theory that it was
the cables was a valid one (that has not been totally disproved) and held by
others in this thread. I didn't say a browser that was incapable of
redirection (that would be mad) but that your browser had had redirection
disabled. i.e YOUR browser was incapable of redirection. I have looked into
this and discovered that I WAS rash in saying this and that redirection is
not something that can be disabled (in IE at any rate) but I'm going to look
further into this. I WAS ONLY TRYING TO HELP. I never said that it IS this
or IS that but, I said that I thought is may be this and/or that and these
are my thoughts on this. If you want to back bite people who are trying to
be helpful and insult them then that's your right of free speech. However,
don't expect that IF I happen to have the RIGHT answer for a future problem
of yours, that I'll be first in the que.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


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...
"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Gene,
But, at the risk of repeating myself, one more time.

If, as you say, it is a left-over association to a device that is no
longer attached WHY should the computer query that there is ANY device
there
when NONE is actually attached! There being NOTHING at the end of the
cable
no Wizard should be activated at all!!

The state of the computer's hardware detection in the presence of a
cable attached to NOTHING should be EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE EMPTY USB
PORT!
Nothing more to say.

Disabling the Unknown Devices in Device Mgr, plugging in both cables
and rebooting ended the hardware messages. See Rich's ideas earlier in
this thread for why that might be the case.

Here's the problem with your posts: With the strange happenings
(redirection) in MS thread on Friday, you suggested my browser
is incapable of redirecting without first asking which browser I'm
using. Moreover, are there any browsers that are incapable of
redirecting?? They'd be useless on the internet, since redirecting is
standard.

Then with this thread, you argued that the cables had to be shorted
without first asking if they worked ok when devices were attached to
them.

Twice is a habit. They tell me you're eager to help, but in over your
head.

Gene

Gene,
You can say "Hey, Tim, you know what - YOU'RE WRONG" but fine, who
hopes to be right all the time? There's a problem if I'm wrong MORE often
that I'm right, but if you think that you're just being insulting because
it's clearly NOT the case. I am eager to help and the theory that it was
the cables was a valid one (that has not been totally disproved) and held by
others in this thread. I didn't say a browser that was incapable of
redirection (that would be mad) but that your browser had had redirection
disabled. i.e YOUR browser was incapable of redirection. I have looked into
this and discovered that I WAS rash in saying this and that redirection is
not something that can be disabled (in IE at any rate) but I'm going to look
further into this. I WAS ONLY TRYING TO HELP. I never said that it IS this
or IS that but, I said that I thought is may be this and/or that and these
are my thoughts on this. If you want to back bite people who are trying to
be helpful and insult them then that's your right of free speech. However,
don't expect that IF I happen to have the RIGHT answer for a future problem
of yours, that I'll be first in the que.


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


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...
"Tim Meddick" wrote:

Gene,
But, at the risk of repeating myself, one more time.

If, as you say, it is a left-over association to a device that is no
longer attached WHY should the computer query that there is ANY device
there
when NONE is actually attached! There being NOTHING at the end of the
cable
no Wizard should be activated at all!!

The state of the computer's hardware detection in the presence of a
cable attached to NOTHING should be EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE EMPTY USB
PORT!
Nothing more to say.

Disabling the Unknown Devices in Device Mgr, plugging in both cables
and rebooting ended the hardware messages. See Rich's ideas earlier in
this thread for why that might be the case.

Here's the problem with your posts: With the strange happenings
(redirection) in MS thread on Friday, you suggested my browser
is incapable of redirecting without first asking which browser I'm
using. Moreover, are there any browsers that are incapable of
redirecting?? They'd be useless on the internet, since redirecting is
standard.

Then with this thread, you argued that the cables had to be shorted
without first asking if they worked ok when devices were attached to
them.

Twice is a habit. They tell me you're eager to help, but in over your
head.

Gene

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

I have looked into
this and discovered that I WAS rash in saying this and that redirection is
not something that can be disabled (in IE at any rate) but I'm going to look
further into this. I WAS ONLY TRYING TO HELP.

This is not the first time you've been "rash". You've also misread or
failed to read what an OP has said many times in your brief history in
these groups, and the list keeps growing and growing.

Yes, you are trying to help. Trying doesn't often get it when you're
wrong.

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

I have looked into
this and discovered that I WAS rash in saying this and that redirection is
not something that can be disabled (in IE at any rate) but I'm going to look
further into this. I WAS ONLY TRYING TO HELP.

This is not the first time you've been "rash". You've also misread or
failed to read what an OP has said many times in your brief history in
these groups, and the list keeps growing and growing.

Yes, you are trying to help. Trying doesn't often get it when you're
wrong.