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Old February 16th 05, 10:09 AM
Poor Boy
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Why in this day and age where Microsoft rules supreme, do I still have to
rely on 3rd party internet downloaders? I live in a country where I get 1KB/s
downloads if I'm lucky and where 4 hours of internet surfing cost $10. With
all this spyware programs going around, I don't trust any of this downloaders
anymore. Why can't Microsoft just add a downloader that can also resume
downloading if I loose my connection. The other day I tried to download a new
version of Nero (30MB in size) and 6 hours later I lost my connection. I will
not try again.
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Old February 16th 05, 11:51 AM
Gordon
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
I use IE as my download manager. It works quite well for me on both
satellite and dialup connections.


But does it resume, if the connection is lost, or does it just start all
over?

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Old February 16th 05, 03:39 PM
kurttrail
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Poor Boy wrote:
Why in this day and age where Microsoft rules supreme, do I still
have to rely on 3rd party internet downloaders? I live in a country
where I get 1KB/s downloads if I'm lucky and where 4 hours of
internet surfing cost $10. With all this spyware programs going
around, I don't trust any of this downloaders anymore. Why can't
Microsoft just add a downloader that can also resume downloading if I
loose my connection. The other day I tried to download a new version
of Nero (30MB in size) and 6 hours later I lost my connection. I will
not try again.


Forgive the MVPs in this thread, they know not what they do!

Just buy yourself a good download utility, that does resume. If you ar
paying $2.50 an hour for such a slow connection, the downloader will pay
for itself in no time!

I use GetRight, and have nothing bad to say about it. You can demo it
for free before using it.

http://www.getright.com

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Old February 16th 05, 03:55 PM
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
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I've had it do both.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
I use IE as my download manager. It works quite well for me on both
satellite and dialup connections.


But does it resume, if the connection is lost, or does it just start all
over?

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Gordon Burgess-Parker
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Old February 16th 05, 05:45 PM
Sam
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Apparently, _Poor Boy_, on 16/02/05 05:09,typed:
Why in this day and age where Microsoft rules supreme, do I still have to
rely on 3rd party internet downloaders? I live in a country where I get 1KB/s
downloads if I'm lucky and where 4 hours of internet surfing cost $10. With
all this spyware programs going around, I don't trust any of this downloaders
anymore. Why can't Microsoft just add a downloader that can also resume
downloading if I loose my connection. The other day I tried to download a new
version of Nero (30MB in size) and 6 hours later I lost my connection. I will
not try again.



Okay, others will give you GUI suggestions (some free, some not). My
favorite, however, is wget (http://xoomer.virgilio.it/hherold/). Just
scroll down that page and download the one linked with "THIS ONE: 1.9.1
complete". The installation needs some manual work to make it
system-wide(also see: http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/wgetwin.html).
Or just unzip the files in the directory where you usually want to
download your stuff and always use wget from that directory.

Wget has tones of options. It can download whole websites if you wish,
or just a single file from a URL (http or ftp or whatever). If the
connection breaks, you can resume that download and provided that the
remote machine supports such a download, it will continue where it left
off (if however the remote machine does NOT support that option, no
downloader will be able to do that).

Catch? It is not GUI based, at least not that I know of. Huge advantage:
free and open source. wget is a very common tool in Linux/Unix world and
quite robust and tested. So give it a try if really want resuming
functionality on your dial up. Once you settle down with it's non-GUI
use, you will never go back to a GUI based downloader.

Sam.

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Old February 17th 05, 01:51 AM
Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
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Love getright, I've used the registered version for many years - still do,
particularly for linux iso's.One of the best out there.

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"kurttrail" wrote in message
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Poor Boy wrote:
Why in this day and age where Microsoft rules supreme, do I still
have to rely on 3rd party internet downloaders? I live in a country
where I get 1KB/s downloads if I'm lucky and where 4 hours of
internet surfing cost $10. With all this spyware programs going
around, I don't trust any of this downloaders anymore. Why can't
Microsoft just add a downloader that can also resume downloading if I
loose my connection. The other day I tried to download a new version
of Nero (30MB in size) and 6 hours later I lost my connection. I will
not try again.


Forgive the MVPs in this thread, they know not what they do!

Just buy yourself a good download utility, that does resume. If you ar
paying $2.50 an hour for such a slow connection, the downloader will pay
for itself in no time!

I use GetRight, and have nothing bad to say about it. You can demo it for
free before using it.

http://www.getright.com

--
Peace!
Kurt
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"



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Old February 17th 05, 02:22 AM
perris
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my favorite free download manager no spyware is "star dpwnload manager"

it has everything plus the most important feature for me, unlimited
que


kurttrail Wrote:
Poor Boy wrote:
Why in this day and age where Microsoft rules supreme, do I still
have to rely on 3rd party internet downloaders? I live in a country
where I get 1KB/s downloads if I'm lucky and where 4 hours of
internet surfing cost $10. With all this spyware programs going
around, I don't trust any of this downloaders anymore. Why can't
Microsoft just add a downloader that can also resume downloading if

I
loose my connection. The other day I tried to download a new version
of Nero (30MB in size) and 6 hours later I lost my connection. I

will
not try again.


Forgive the MVPs in this thread, they know not what they do!

Just buy yourself a good download utility, that does resume. If you
ar
paying $2.50 an hour for such a slow connection, the downloader will
pay
for itself in no time!

I use GetRight, and have nothing bad to say about it. You can demo it
for free before using it.

http://www.getright.com

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"



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Old February 17th 05, 02:48 AM
Bruce Chambers
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Poor Boy wrote:
Why in this day and age where Microsoft rules supreme, do I still have to
rely on 3rd party internet downloaders? I live in a country where I get 1KB/s
downloads if I'm lucky and where 4 hours of internet surfing cost $10. With
all this spyware programs going around, I don't trust any of this downloaders
anymore. Why can't Microsoft just add a downloader that can also resume
downloading if I loose my connection. The other day I tried to download a new
version of Nero (30MB in size) and 6 hours later I lost my connection. I will
not try again.



Why should Microsoft add a pure snake oil product to slow things down
even more?

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Old February 17th 05, 02:58 AM
kurttrail
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Bruce Chambers wrote:
Poor Boy wrote:
Why in this day and age where Microsoft rules supreme, do I still
have to rely on 3rd party internet downloaders? I live in a country
where I get 1KB/s downloads if I'm lucky and where 4 hours of
internet surfing cost $10. With all this spyware programs going
around, I don't trust any of this downloaders anymore. Why can't
Microsoft just add a downloader that can also resume downloading if
I loose my connection. The other day I tried to download a new
version of Nero (30MB in size) and 6 hours later I lost my
connection. I will not try again.



Why should Microsoft add a pure snake oil product to slow things down
even more?


Not all download management is snake oil.

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  #13  
Old February 17th 05, 03:41 AM
Bruce Chambers
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kurttrail wrote:


Not all download management is snake oil.



I'm skeptical, but I suppose you could be correct. I haven't had
reason to test any since I switched to broadband, a few years ago. It
is possible that a useful down manager has been developed since then.
I'll take the information under advisement.


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Old February 17th 05, 02:30 PM
kurttrail
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Bruce Chambers wrote:
kurttrail wrote:


Not all download management is snake oil.



I'm skeptical, but I suppose you could be correct. I haven't had
reason to test any since I switched to broadband, a few years ago. It
is possible that a useful down manager has been developed since then.
I'll take the information under advisement.


GetRight is one of the best and it has been around quite a while. Not
only does it support resuming downloads, but with very large files that
are on a lot of mirror servers with various upload speeds, it can find
the fastest mirror, and also download from multiple mirrors.

Like Rick said, it's great for downloading Linux ISO's.

I mainly use it to as a download que when downloading many files, such
as Dead Shows. With around 20 files per Dead show, I just click on all
twenty, and let Get Right download two at a time. Why not download all
twenty at once? Because I don't what to hog the server for so other
people can download from them too.

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