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  #31  
Old January 24th 09, 10:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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"Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?"

Correct, sort of, presuming that v.1 used the Windows Installer and v.1
can be upgraded to v.2. The Windows Installer objects have to remain on
your hard disk in order to upgrade. OTOH if v.2 works better as a clean
install - let's say you're "upgrading" from Office 2003 to Office 2007 -
you'll do better to remove the old installer packages with WICU.

Windows Installer objects live primarily in C:\Windows\Installer, which
is, of course, a hidden file that is often a gigabyte or more in size.

Steve Jobs would not put up with it.

"Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?"

Correct.

"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Carl wrote:
Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility.

I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that)
contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications
installed using the Windows Installer"

Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?

Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?

One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that
M/S installs and that I will never use?

Thanks,
Carl

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  #32  
Old January 24th 09, 01:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
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Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -

I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.

I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.

I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.

However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.

It's still there.

See anything I am going wrong???

Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl

  #33  
Old January 24th 09, 01:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
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Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -

I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.

I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.

I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.

However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.

It's still there.

See anything I am going wrong???

Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl

  #34  
Old January 24th 09, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Posts: 3,048
Default Deleting Programs

What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include
that many games.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Carl wrote:
Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -

I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.

I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.

I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.

However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.

It's still there.

See anything I am going wrong???

Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl

  #35  
Old January 24th 09, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Posts: 3,048
Default Deleting Programs

What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include
that many games.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Carl wrote:
Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -

I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.

I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.

I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.

However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.

It's still there.

See anything I am going wrong???

Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl

  #36  
Old January 24th 09, 05:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
7919
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Posts: 2
Default Deleting Programs

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in
,
after much thought, came up with this jewel:

Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility.

I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that)
contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications
installed using the Windows Installer"

Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?

Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?

One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that
M/S installs and that I will never use?

Thanks,
Carl


***************begin canned response*******************

What I use to clean and maintain Windows -

Windows Update (free to use)
http://www.update.microsoft.com/wind....aspx?ln=en-us

Secunia Online Software Inspector (free to use)
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/

AntiVir (free version)
http://www.free-av.com/

Windows Defender (free)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...r/default.mspx
for w2k users, see instructions he
http://www.compatdb.org/support/topi...dows_2000.html

SUPERAntiSpyware (free version)
http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html
If you can˙t download def. files you can get them he
http://www.superantispyware.com/definitions.html

Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (free version)
http://www.malwarebytes.org/index.php
If you can˙t download def. files, you can get them he
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

SpywareBlaster (free)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Windows Firewall (free)- w2k users can get sygate (old free version)
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=sygate

Firefox with AdBlock/NoScript/WOT installed (free), set to ´defaultˇ
browser
http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

AdBlock https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865

NoScript https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722

WOT https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...?q=WOT&cat=all


MVPS Hosts file (free)
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Thunderbird for e-mail (free), set to ´defaultˇ e-mail
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Turn off un-needed Windows Services
http://www.jasonn.com/turning_off_un..._on_windows_xp

Update Java (delete old versions before update)
http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp

Buy a router w/built-in firewall (under $50)

More things to help keep your system lean and mean

Decrapify your PC
http://pcdecrapifier.com/download

Remove Adobe Acrobat Reader and use Foxit Reader
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/

CrapCleaner
http://www.ccleaner.com/

JKDefrag
http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/


***************end canned response********************

max
--
Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html
Keep Clean http://max.shplink.com/keepingclean.html
Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email.
nomail.afraid.org is specifically setup for use in USENET
  #37  
Old January 24th 09, 05:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
7919
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Deleting Programs

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in
,
after much thought, came up with this jewel:

Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility.

I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that)
contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications
installed using the Windows Installer"

Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2
came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this
utility?

Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows
Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall,
reinstall, or update it?

One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that
M/S installs and that I will never use?

Thanks,
Carl


***************begin canned response*******************

What I use to clean and maintain Windows -

Windows Update (free to use)
http://www.update.microsoft.com/wind....aspx?ln=en-us

Secunia Online Software Inspector (free to use)
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/

AntiVir (free version)
http://www.free-av.com/

Windows Defender (free)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...r/default.mspx
for w2k users, see instructions he
http://www.compatdb.org/support/topi...dows_2000.html

SUPERAntiSpyware (free version)
http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html
If you can˙t download def. files you can get them he
http://www.superantispyware.com/definitions.html

Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (free version)
http://www.malwarebytes.org/index.php
If you can˙t download def. files, you can get them he
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

SpywareBlaster (free)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Windows Firewall (free)- w2k users can get sygate (old free version)
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=sygate

Firefox with AdBlock/NoScript/WOT installed (free), set to ´defaultˇ
browser
http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

AdBlock https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865

NoScript https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722

WOT https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...?q=WOT&cat=all


MVPS Hosts file (free)
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Thunderbird for e-mail (free), set to ´defaultˇ e-mail
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Turn off un-needed Windows Services
http://www.jasonn.com/turning_off_un..._on_windows_xp

Update Java (delete old versions before update)
http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp

Buy a router w/built-in firewall (under $50)

More things to help keep your system lean and mean

Decrapify your PC
http://pcdecrapifier.com/download

Remove Adobe Acrobat Reader and use Foxit Reader
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/

CrapCleaner
http://www.ccleaner.com/

JKDefrag
http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/


***************end canned response********************

max
--
Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html
Keep Clean http://max.shplink.com/keepingclean.html
Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email.
nomail.afraid.org is specifically setup for use in USENET
  #38  
Old January 24th 09, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
beamish
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Posts: 213
Default Deleting Programs



"Carl" wrote:

Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -

I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.

I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.

I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.

However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.

It's still there.

See anything I am going wrong???

Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl


Hello,
I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games.
In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check.
Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another
page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok".
Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear
out of Windows Components.
Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind.
take care.
beamish.
  #39  
Old January 24th 09, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
beamish
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 213
Default Deleting Programs



"Carl" wrote:

Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"

Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -

I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.

I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.

I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.

However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.

It's still there.

See anything I am going wrong???

Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl


Hello,
I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games.
In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check.
Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another
page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok".
Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear
out of Windows Components.
Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind.
take care.
beamish.
  #40  
Old January 25th 09, 04:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
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Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

On Jan 24, 10:29*am, Leonard Grey wrote:
What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include
that many games.



Under games are listed;
FreeCell
Hearts
Internet Backgammon
Internet Checkers
Internet Hearts
Internet Reversi
Internet Spades
Minesweeper
Pinball
Solitaire
Spider Solitaire

Carl

Carl
  #41  
Old January 25th 09, 04:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

On Jan 24, 10:29*am, Leonard Grey wrote:
What are the names of these games? AFAIK Windows XP does not include
that many games.



Under games are listed;
FreeCell
Hearts
Internet Backgammon
Internet Checkers
Internet Hearts
Internet Reversi
Internet Spades
Minesweeper
Pinball
Solitaire
Spider Solitaire

Carl

Carl
  #42  
Old January 25th 09, 04:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
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Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

On Jan 24, 11:14*am, 7919 wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in
,
after much thought, came up with this jewel:


WOW! What a gold mine of sites to bookmark and checkout.

Thank you very much for those.

Carl
  #43  
Old January 25th 09, 04:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

On Jan 24, 11:14*am, 7919 wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:07 -0800 (PST), Carl, in
,
after much thought, came up with this jewel:


WOW! What a gold mine of sites to bookmark and checkout.

Thank you very much for those.

Carl
  #44  
Old January 25th 09, 04:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
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Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

On Jan 24, 4:46*pm, beamish wrote:
"Carl" wrote:
Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"


Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
* Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -


I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.


I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.


I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.


However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.


It's still there.


See anything I am going wrong???


Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl


Hello,
I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games.
In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check.
Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another
page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok".
Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear
out of Windows Components.
Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind.
take care.
beamish.


Hmmm. There are some /very/ fundamental differences between Windows
and Macs that are /most/ puzzling to an old brain like mine.

You were right, Beamish, I had to /uncheck/ those boxes, not check
them.

In the Mac OS, you would have had to /check/ them in a situation such
as that.

The only one that hasn't been deleted is Pinball. It did not show up
in the list proferred in Add/Remove tool

Thanks for the help,
Carl
  #45  
Old January 25th 09, 04:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Carl[_6_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 89
Default Deleting Programs

On Jan 24, 4:46*pm, beamish wrote:
"Carl" wrote:
Leonard Grey wrote:
"...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use"


Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs
* Add/Remove Windows Components.


Hi Leonard -


I found my way to this, but it failed to remove the games.


I clicked on the Add/Remove Windows Components and got the Windows
Components Wizard.


I selected Accessories and Utilities Details Games, and then
checked the box for Games, then OK, then Next and the Wizard ran and
finished with the message that I had successfully completed the
Wizards Component Wizard.


However, when I navigate to All Programs Games then choose one of
the games, the game opens.


It's still there.


See anything I am going wrong???


Again, many thanks for your help and patience.
Carl


Hello,
I beleive the first six games are internet links to on-line games.
In the correct area but I beleive you should uncheck not check.
Click on the "details" button after you highlight games, another
page will open with a list of each game, uncheck each game then "ok".
Then uncheck "games" then ok. Continue to use "ok" until you clear
out of Windows Components.
Please excuse my butting in, hope you do not mind.
take care.
beamish.


Hmmm. There are some /very/ fundamental differences between Windows
and Macs that are /most/ puzzling to an old brain like mine.

You were right, Beamish, I had to /uncheck/ those boxes, not check
them.

In the Mac OS, you would have had to /check/ them in a situation such
as that.

The only one that hasn't been deleted is Pinball. It did not show up
in the list proferred in Add/Remove tool

Thanks for the help,
Carl
 




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