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USB cable and new hardware detection
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB
camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer. When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks. Gene |
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Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in the same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run the found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation, if this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that takes a few minutes after boot-up. Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port. This will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate wrote in message ... Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer. When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks. Gene |
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Gene,
My experience is that XP assigns the device to a particular USB port when first installed. If the device is moved, or another device is placed in the same USB port, XP must reassign the Port to the new device, and will run the found hardware wizard. It will find the installed drivers for that device and reassign the port with those drivers. Or ask for driver installation, if this is the first time the device is connected to the PC. Sometimes that takes a few minutes after boot-up. Sometimes when the USB device is plugged in, a Safely Remove Hardware icon will appear in the system tray. You need to double click that first, and turn off the device before removing it the cable attached to the Port. This will disassociate the device from the port. Important when using digital cameras, and other devices that frequently get disconnected. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate wrote in message ... Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer. When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks. Gene |
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On Apr 26, 12:55*pm, wrote:
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer. When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. *But when I plug in a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware present. *Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either case, why the hardware message? *I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks. Gene That is certainly possible, but tell us exactly what you are seeing... What are the choices offered? How do you make it go away. Just what is a USB extension cable? Is that the same as the camera transfer cable? You only see this when XP reboots? You said "on startup" The convenience cable (I have one also) is plugged in and there is nothing on the other end of it - just the cable, right? Is it just a USB extension cable or also your camera cable or are they one in the same? Close all windows and on the desktop right click My Computer, Properties, Hardware, Device Manager (wait)... be sure the top icon (your computer) is expanded by clicking the + next to it. Do you see an yellow question marks or red Xs and if you do, next to what. |
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USB cable and new hardware detection
On Apr 26, 12:55*pm, wrote:
Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer. When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. *But when I plug in a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware present. *Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either case, why the hardware message? *I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks. Gene That is certainly possible, but tell us exactly what you are seeing... What are the choices offered? How do you make it go away. Just what is a USB extension cable? Is that the same as the camera transfer cable? You only see this when XP reboots? You said "on startup" The convenience cable (I have one also) is plugged in and there is nothing on the other end of it - just the cable, right? Is it just a USB extension cable or also your camera cable or are they one in the same? Close all windows and on the desktop right click My Computer, Properties, Hardware, Device Manager (wait)... be sure the top icon (your computer) is expanded by clicking the + next to it. Do you see an yellow question marks or red Xs and if you do, next to what. |
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USB cable and new hardware detection
Hi Gene,
USB extension cables are not very well made on the whole. Their quality of manufacture varies greatly. I have has so many 'duff' ones I have given up on them. This could be the cause that the cable is, in effect, creating a 'short circuit' and that is why your system thinks there is a device attached. Change the extension lead. Or, to test the theory, try it without the exertion lead. That is to say: is this effect still seen if you have the camera lead plugged in without the extension lead between? -- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. wrote in message ... Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer. When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks. Gene |
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USB cable and new hardware detection
Hi Gene,
USB extension cables are not very well made on the whole. Their quality of manufacture varies greatly. I have has so many 'duff' ones I have given up on them. This could be the cause that the cable is, in effect, creating a 'short circuit' and that is why your system thinks there is a device attached. Change the extension lead. Or, to test the theory, try it without the exertion lead. That is to say: is this effect still seen if you have the camera lead plugged in without the extension lead between? -- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. wrote in message ... Rather than having to crawl under my desk each time, I've kept a USB camera transfer cable plugged into a port on the back of my computer. When XP starts, it's as if nothing is there. But when I plug in a USB extension cable, whether in an adjacent port or in the same port as the camera cord, on startup XP always thinks there is new hardware present. Since there's nothing attached to the other end in either case, why the hardware message? I'd like to get it to stop. Thanks. Gene |
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The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an
(any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is short-circuiting! There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable. -- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. wrote in message ... wrote: Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up). On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there. Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up, as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port. Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time. My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New Hardware notice from coming up each time? Gene |
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USB cable and new hardware detection
"Tim Meddick" wrote:
The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an (any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is short-circuiting! There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable. Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of a USB capture device. Shorted? Possible but improbable. Given your thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection - are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open. Gene -- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. wrote in message ... wrote: Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up). On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there. Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up, as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port. Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time. My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New Hardware notice from coming up each time? Gene |
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"Tim Meddick" wrote:
The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an (any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is short-circuiting! There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable. Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of a USB capture device. Shorted? Possible but improbable. Given your thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection - are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open. Gene -- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. wrote in message ... wrote: Let me try that again. The USB ports are on the back of the computer under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. There's no camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up). On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there. Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with the cable. On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up, as well as the smaller one in the Tray. I cancel out of both and then let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port. Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. Every time. My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two cables? 2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New Hardware notice from coming up each time? Gene |
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On Apr 26, 9:02*pm, wrote:
"Tim Meddick" wrote: The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an (any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is short-circuiting! *There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable. Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of a USB capture device. *Shorted? *Possible but improbable. Given your thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection - are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open. Gene -- Cheers, * *Tim Meddick, * *Peckham, London. wrote in message ... wrote: Let me try that again. *The USB ports are on the back of the computer under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. *There's no camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up). On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there. Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with the cable. *On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up, as well as the smaller one in the Tray. *I cancel out of both and then let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port. Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. *Every time. My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two cables? *2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New Hardware notice from coming up each time? Gene Sounds to me like the problem follows the cable. Do you have a similar cable to the suspect cable you can try? Do you have another computer you can plug the suspect cable into to see what happens? |
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On Apr 26, 9:02*pm, wrote:
"Tim Meddick" wrote: The inescapable fact remains that, despite how much you paid for them, if an (any) unattached USB cable is making your computer think there is a device attached - then it is sending information back to the computer - i.e. it is short-circuiting! *There's no other way round this fact. Get a new cable. Actually, that's two cables, one from Monoprice and the other part of a USB capture device. *Shorted? *Possible but improbable. Given your thought on my last thread that my browser is incapable of redirection - are there really any that can't? - I'll leave the floor open. Gene -- Cheers, * *Tim Meddick, * *Peckham, London. wrote in message ... wrote: Let me try that again. *The USB ports are on the back of the computer under my desk, so I've kept the digital camera's USB-to-camera-port cable hooked up, with no camera attached most of the time. *There's no camera software loaded (with the camera attached, AutoRun comes up). On computer boot, camera not attached, there's no Found Hardware or AutoRun notice; it's as if the cable isn't there. Now, hook to another USB port an extension cable, which is a male-to-female USB cable, 1 to 2 meters long in my case (Tim, these are quality cables). I use this type of cable for ease of downloading to a USB flash drive and as part of low-tech set up for converting VHS tapes to computer files. Again, no software necessarily associated with the cable. *On computer boot, with the cable ported to the computer and nothing on the other end, the Found New Hardware Wizard box comes up, as well as the smaller one in the Tray. *I cancel out of both and then let the Problem Occurred message clear or X it myself. Just to check, I unplugged the camera cable and attached the extension to that port. Same Hardware Wizard, etc., on rebooting. *Every time. My questions are 1) Why are there different responses between the two cables? *2) Is there anything that can be done to stop the Found New Hardware notice from coming up each time? Gene Sounds to me like the problem follows the cable. Do you have a similar cable to the suspect cable you can try? Do you have another computer you can plug the suspect cable into to see what happens? |
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