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Adobe - The writing on the wall comes into view



 
 
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Old September 13th 18, 01:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Default Adobe - The writing on the wall comes into view

"Nil" wrote

|
| I installed Paint Shop Pro 7.01, then applied a patch I had save to
| take it to 7.02. It will be a couple of weeks before I can spend any
| time with it, but at least it starts and runs and I can open some .PSP
| files.
|

I guess that's a good reminder never to save to
proprietary formats. I know those can save undo
steps, but I've never come across any kind of undo
option that I might want to save. In other words,
by the time I'm saving a file I know I want it as it is.
I usually save BMP or TIF. (The latter only to save
space.)

| I also found a copy of PSP 8 that I had forgotten I had. I think I
| recall that it was buggy and that PSP 9 was much, much better. But I'll
| try it out sometime.


I bought 7 or 8. I'm not sure which. But I've
never really used it. The GUI was so much
more busy than 5, with very little added
functionality that was useful. But to be
honest I didn't give it much of a chance.
I lost my temper when I came across something
like a toolbar button to paste assorted GIFs.


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Old September 13th 18, 04:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
Nil[_5_]
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On 13 Sep 2018, "Mayayana" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

I guess that's a good reminder never to save to
proprietary formats. I know those can save undo
steps, but I've never come across any kind of undo
option that I might want to save. In other words,
by the time I'm saving a file I know I want it as it is.
I usually save BMP or TIF. (The latter only to save
space.)


But, of course, if you don't use the proprietary format you don't get
any of the useful features of Paint Shop Pro, such as layers. Undo is
the least of it. And if you don't use those features, that negates most
of the reasons I'd use PSP in the first place. At that point, Irfanview
or MS Paint would be about as useful.
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Old September 13th 18, 04:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Default Adobe - The writing on the wall comes into view

"Nil" wrote

| But, of course, if you don't use the proprietary format you don't get
| any of the useful features of Paint Shop Pro, such as layers. Undo is
| the least of it. And if you don't use those features, that negates most
| of the reasons I'd use PSP in the first place. At that point, Irfanview
| or MS Paint would be about as useful.

What I meant was that I'm done with that when I
save. With PSP format you can save unmerged layers.
You can save undo steps, so that you can unmerge
merged layers later. But saving as BMP or TIF doesn't
prevent using layers or any other feature. It just prevents
you saving "the workspace" and undo steps to disk,
going back to a work in progress later.

I've never wanted to do that. I occasionally
save an image at different points, but in most
cases when I use layers I'm merging them quickly
in order to do more work on the total image. I don't
quit until I have what I think is the best I can get.
So there's no need to save the workspace.

I guess people work differently. Now you have
me curious to look over peoples' shoulders and
see how they're using layers. I just can't picture
a scenario where I want to save them between
sessions.


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Old September 13th 18, 05:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
Nil[_5_]
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Default Adobe - The writing on the wall comes into view

On 13 Sep 2018, "Mayayana" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I guess people work differently. Now you have
me curious to look over peoples' shoulders and
see how they're using layers. I just can't picture
a scenario where I want to save them between
sessions.


I can hardly think of NOT wanting to save layers for later tweaking if
you've been using them in the first place. You could be using
adjustment layers to alter color or contrast on only part of the
picture, or masks to block out parts of an image. You export it but
later find you're not happy with the result, or you missed a spot. The
whole job could take longer than you have time for one session, so you
resume it later. Its vector drawing features are pretty good, and allow
you to later resize a graphic with no quality loss.

There are lots of reasons to save in native format. If you just want to
crop or resize a jpg, Paint Shop Pro is overkill.
 




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