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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3. (OT -- Linux)
On 12/22/2010 09:44 PM, Ant wrote:
On 12/22/2010 12:39 PM PT, Alias typed: So try out Linux Mint, 64 Bit. It's free and you can dual boot with XP. It's pretty similar to XP but you will find it will make all your RAM available, your Internet will be faster and no viruses or malware. Check it out at http://www.linuxmint.com/ If you do it, download the DVD so that Flash, Java, codecs, fonts, etc. get installed along with the OS. When you start the install, it will detect XP and ask you if you want to install Linux Mint side-by-side. It's pretty simple after that. I am actually running an old 32-bit Debian on my older machine with its 2 GB of RAM. So if I ever wanted to go to another one, I would install its 64-bit. I don't really like having multi-boots since things get ugly and messy when things go wrong (e.g., HDD problems, bugs, whatever). I used to do that with Red Hat Linux 7.x and Windows 9x though. Things get crazy when there are problems. I want to keep things simple now due to lack of free time. I have free time during my Christmas break so I am taking advantage of the upgrades and tweaks before things go nuts again! Boy, my computers were super dusty after almost two years! Thanks though. I put all OSes on separate hard drives and use the BIOS (not grub) to choose to which OS I want to boot into. -- Alias |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
On 12/22/2010 10:15 PM, Patok wrote:
Alias wrote: So try out Linux Mint, 64 Bit. It's free and you can dual boot with XP. It's pretty similar to XP but you will find it will make all your RAM available, your Internet will be faster and no viruses or malware. Check it out at http://www.linuxmint.com/ If you do it, download the DVD so that Flash, Java, codecs, fonts, etc. get installed along with the OS. When you start the install, it will detect XP and ask you if you want to install Linux Mint side-by-side. It's pretty simple after that. After multiple mentions (by you?) I went to that site to check it out. And I see that Mint is based on Ubuntu. What is the difference, then? Here http://www.linuxmint.com/about.php they don't say anything that is not the same as Ubuntu. What is your reason to like it better? (I already have Ubuntu installed in a VirtualBox.) If you download the DVD, you get Flash, Java, Fonts and many programs installed at the same time as you install Mint. Mint installs T-Bird instead of Evolution. I find it to be a polished Ubuntu. I also like the default desktop lay out better. For people coming from Windows, it's easier to manage the learning curve. -- Alias |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
Bill in Co wrote:
I can't even see why anyone even needs 2 GB of RAM with WindowsXP, unless they are 1) either going to run 10 huge apps simultaneously, OR 2) use a few Virtual PC sessions. I've got that much (2 GB) now, and don't think it's ever been close to being fully used (and I've done some video processing work too, although I'm not using the highest end video processing apps like Adobe Premiere or Vegas Pro, or comparable). I check the memory usage in Task Manager on various occasions, and it never gets even close to reaching the 2 GB I've got installed. So it seems 1 GB seems quite sufficient, as I think has been reported by many others, too. On a typical day, I run two VMs at the same time on WinXP. 4GB (3.1GB free) does a good job for me, when I'm doing that. I run two VMs, so I can compare software settings in each one (typically, something is broken in one of them, and working in the other, so I need to switch back and forth). Before I got "hooked on VMs", I could comfortably run with only 1GB installed, and even play the games I wanted to. Paul |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3. (OT -- Linux)
On 12/22/2010 4:00 PM PT, Alias typed:
I put all OSes on separate hard drives and use the BIOS (not grub) to choose to which OS I want to boot into. Ah, that's a good idea. How did you install OS without touching the other drive? Did you disconnect the other drive? -- "None preaches better than the ant, and she says nothing." --Ben Franklin /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is/was listening to a song on this computer: Barbarellas - Body Rock (rip) |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
On 12/22/2010 4:12 PM PT, Paul typed:
I can't even see why anyone even needs 2 GB of RAM with WindowsXP, unless they are 1) either going to run 10 huge apps simultaneously, OR 2) use a few Virtual PC sessions. I've got that much (2 GB) now, and don't think it's ever been close to being fully used (and I've done some video processing work too, although I'm not using the highest end video processing apps like Adobe Premiere or Vegas Pro, or comparable). I check the memory usage in Task Manager on various occasions, and it never gets even close to reaching the 2 GB I've got installed. So it seems 1 GB seems quite sufficient, as I think has been reported by many others, too. On a typical day, I run two VMs at the same time on WinXP. 4GB (3.1GB free) does a good job for me, when I'm doing that. I run two VMs, so I can compare software settings in each one (typically, something is broken in one of them, and working in the other, so I need to switch back and forth). Before I got "hooked on VMs", I could comfortably run with only 1GB installed, and even play the games I wanted to. Exactly. I run VMware Workstations too. Some newer games are such hogs now. -- "An ant is over six feet tall when measured by its own foot-rule." --Slovenian /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is/was listening to a song on this computer: Chromeo - Hot Mess |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
Alias wrote:
On 12/22/2010 10:15 PM, Patok wrote: After multiple mentions (by you?) I went to that site to check it out. And I see that Mint is based on Ubuntu. What is the difference, then? Here http://www.linuxmint.com/about.php they don't say anything that is not the same as Ubuntu. What is your reason to like it better? (I already have Ubuntu installed in a VirtualBox.) If you download the DVD, you get Flash, Java, Fonts and many programs installed at the same time as you install Mint. Mint installs T-Bird instead of Evolution. I find it to be a polished Ubuntu. I also like the default desktop lay out better. For people coming from Windows, it's easier to manage the learning curve. I see. Thanks. -- You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone. -- Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn. |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bit XP Pro. SP3.
Ant wrote:
On 12/22/2010 4:12 PM PT, Paul typed: No, I typed the first 3 paragraphs below. Paul typed what followed that. :-) I can't even see why anyone even needs 2 GB of RAM with WindowsXP, unless they are 1) either going to run 10 huge apps simultaneously, OR 2) use a few Virtual PC sessions. I've got that much (2 GB) now, and don't think it's ever been close to being fully used (and I've done some video processing work too, although I'm not using the highest end video processing apps like Adobe Premiere or Vegas Pro, or comparable). I check the memory usage in Task Manager on various occasions, and it never gets even close to reaching the 2 GB I've got installed. So it seems 1 GB seems quite sufficient, as I think has been reported by many others, too. THIS part was from Paul: On a typical day, I run two VMs at the same time on WinXP. 4GB (3.1GB free) does a good job for me, when I'm doing that. I run two VMs, so I can compare software settings in each one (typically, something is broken in one of them, and working in the other, so I need to switch back and forth). Before I got "hooked on VMs", I could comfortably run with only 1GB installed, and even play the games I wanted to. Exactly. I run VMware Workstations too. Some newer games are such hogs now. -- "An ant is over six feet tall when measured by its own foot-rule." --Slovenian /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is/was listening to a song on this computer: Chromeo - Hot Mess |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3. (OT -- Linux)
On 12/23/2010 01:26 AM, Ant wrote:
On 12/22/2010 4:00 PM PT, Alias typed: I put all OSes on separate hard drives and use the BIOS (not grub) to choose to which OS I want to boot into. Ah, that's a good idea. How did you install OS without touching the other drive? Did you disconnect the other drive? Yes, and when there's a kernel or grub update, I disconnect it before installing. Currently I have Win 7, XP and Mint on three different drives in the same computer. -- Alias |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3. (OT -- Linux)
On 12/22/2010 5:05 PM PT, Alias typed:
I put all OSes on separate hard drives and use the BIOS (not grub) to choose to which OS I want to boot into. Ah, that's a good idea. How did you install OS without touching the other drive? Did you disconnect the other drive? Yes, and when there's a kernel or grub update, I disconnect it before installing. Currently I have Win 7, XP and Mint on three different drives in the same computer. Ah, that would be a pain for me since I am disabled. -- "As a thinker and planner, the ant is the equal of any savage race of men; as a self-educated specialist in several arts she is the superior of any savage race of men; and in one or two high mental qualities she is above the reach of any man..." --Mark Twain /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bit XP Pro. SP3.
Bill in Co
I have 4Gb with a Windows 98 Why to Run my Server, it help MySql run, my PHP, and my CGI, to save Time For when you go to MyNews.ath.cx it get all up date info for aioe and put it in the RAM ! send you the Info from HDD. at the Same time my Ram Up date it HDD with the New Info! For Time is $$$$$ -- http://mynews.ath.cx |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
MyNews wrote: I have 4Gb with a Windows 98 Win98 cannot and will not recognize all of your 4GB RAM. There is a limit on all Win32 architecture. Personally, it is crazy to run a server on Win98 unless you are using it as a hobby to pass time!! hth |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
Tester wrote:
MyNews wrote: I have 4Gb with a Windows 98 Win98 cannot and will not recognize all of your 4GB RAM. There is a limit on all Win32 architecture. Personally, it is crazy to run a server on Win98 unless you are using it as a hobby to pass time!! hth For that case, you need to set up the MaxPhysPage thing. That makes Win98 ignore the excess RAM present in the computer. 20000 = 512MB is a nice safe value. Between 512MB and 1GB, you need to throw in the MaxFileCache thing too. ******* C:\Windows\system.ini [vcache] MaxFileCache=524288 (or a lesser number if you want) [386enh] MaxPhysPage=20000 Paul |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
Hi Paul, Thanks for this info but I am not using Win98. My present server is Windows 2003 with 2MB ram. Sometimes in January, I expect to get a new Dell Server with 16MB Ram running on Windows Server 2008 SP2 64 bit. I was simply replying to "MyNews" but he replied back in his pigeon English which I fail to understand and so out of politeness I decided not to reply back. hth Paul wrote: For that case, you need to set up the MaxPhysPage thing. That makes Win98 ignore the excess RAM present in the computer. 20000 = 512MB is a nice safe value. Between 512MB and 1GB, you need to throw in the MaxFileCache thing too. ******* C:\Windows\system.ini [vcache] MaxFileCache=524288 (or a lesser number if you want) [386enh] MaxPhysPage=20000 Paul |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3.
Ant wrote:
[snip] I heard that I can use the unused memory for other things like a RAM drive for swap files, %temp%, etc. How do I do that? [snip] I suspect you heard a reference to expanded memory and/or extended memory from DOS era. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_memory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_memory |
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Using my extra RAM for other things in an old, updated 32-bitXP Pro. SP3. (OT -- Linux)
On 12/23/2010 03:47 AM, Ant wrote:
On 12/22/2010 5:05 PM PT, Alias typed: I put all OSes on separate hard drives and use the BIOS (not grub) to choose to which OS I want to boot into. Ah, that's a good idea. How did you install OS without touching the other drive? Did you disconnect the other drive? Yes, and when there's a kernel or grub update, I disconnect it before installing. Currently I have Win 7, XP and Mint on three different drives in the same computer. Ah, that would be a pain for me since I am disabled. How so? -- Alias |
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