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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:10:19 -0700, "XS11E" wrote in article ... Windows 8 is like Windows Vista in this one respect: It works perfectly for those who will RTFM and is disliked by those who will not or can not learn. It is also disliked by those of us who can and do RTFM and learn but think that a touch-oriented interface force-fed to those of us using non-touch desktops and laptops is the wrong UI approach. If you did actually RTFM you'd know the touch-oriented interface is optional, I don't have a touch screen monitor so I don't use it. Easy for those who really did RTFM. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
generic name wrote:
& m$ didn't provide a RTFM with win8 that was downloaded; don't think the RTFM is even available on the dvd version. There haven't been a REAL printed manual for a very long time. What does that have to do with RTFM? There are dozens of newsgroups that will tell you how to use Win8, dozens of user forums, dozens of websites. If you chose to NOT learn that's your choice. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
xfile wrote:
You mean like XBOX ONE is rejected by "those who will not or can not learn"? XBOX ONE is irrelevant to the discussion. You'll want to look up "irrelevant." From what I see, it's MS and their fanboys are the ones who will not or can not learn, and need to be kicked in the ass and punched in the face, and then said, I got it. Loser! You seem to have overdosed on stupid pills this morning, as well as the obnoxious pills. You'll want to look up "obnoxious." -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
generic name wrote:
On 2013-06-21, xfile wrote: On 6/21/2013 05:10, XS11E wrote: Canuck57 wrote: This OS is a PITA. Pretty obvious M$ has too many crack heads in UI design. What was Micro$oft thinking? Monopolization got these crack heads into apathy and idiocracy? Windows 8 is like Windows Vista in this one respect: It works perfectly for those who will RTFM and is disliked by those who will not or can not learn. Which group are you? You mean like XBOX ONE is rejected by "those who will not or can not learn"? From what I see, it's MS and their fanboys are the ones who will not or can not learn, and need to be kicked in the ass and punched in the face, and then said, I got it. Loser! & m$ didn't provide a RTFM with win8 that was downloaded; don't think the RTFM is even available on the dvd version. There haven't been a REAL printed manual for a very long time. Dell provided this for customers. It's not exactly what you'd want, and would be in the "better than nothing" category. ( 11,198,489 bytes ) https://marketing.dell.com/Global/Fi...ws-8-ebook.pdf It does suggest though, that someone recognized a need for a book of some sort. Paul |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On 2013-06-21, XS11E wrote:
generic name wrote: & m$ didn't provide a RTFM with win8 that was downloaded; don't think the RTFM is even available on the dvd version. There haven't been a REAL printed manual for a very long time. What does that have to do with RTFM? There are dozens of newsgroups that will tell you how to use Win8, dozens of user forums, dozens of websites. If you chose to NOT learn that's your choice. The poster claimed that if one does RTFM, the person will know everything about win8..... people cannot "RTFM" if they didn't get a manual. |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On 2013-06-21, XS11E wrote:
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:10:19 -0700, "XS11E" wrote in article ... Windows 8 is like Windows Vista in this one respect: It works perfectly for those who will RTFM and is disliked by those who will not or can not learn. It is also disliked by those of us who can and do RTFM and learn but think that a touch-oriented interface force-fed to those of us using non-touch desktops and laptops is the wrong UI approach. If you did actually RTFM you'd know the touch-oriented interface is optional, I don't have a touch screen monitor so I don't use it. Easy for those who really did RTFM. The "metro ui" is not optional. It is required as the start menu & you can get a an app that will run on that ui & uses the "swipe" to do whatever like the metro-filemanager available on the win8 app store. |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:18:17 -0700, "XS11E"
wrote in article ... Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:10:19 -0700, "XS11E" wrote in article ... Windows 8 is like Windows Vista in this one respect: It works perfectly for those who will RTFM and is disliked by those who will not or can not learn. It is also disliked by those of us who can and do RTFM and learn but think that a touch-oriented interface force-fed to those of us using non-touch desktops and laptops is the wrong UI approach. If you did actually RTFM you'd know the touch-oriented interface is optional, I don't have a touch screen monitor so I don't use it. Easy for those who really did RTFM. So, how do you get rid of the touch-centric start page and prevent the new touch-centric and dumbed-down MS apps from being used by default? RTFM doesn't tell you how. You have to use registry edits and 3rd party tools, fighting MS all the way - that's not what I call an OS that "works perfectly" that only requires you to "RTFM". -- Zaphod Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit. The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick. |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On 6/22/2013 00:25, XS11E wrote:
xfile wrote: You mean like XBOX ONE is rejected by "those who will not or can not learn"? XBOX ONE is irrelevant to the discussion. You'll want to look up "irrelevant." From what I see, it's MS and their fanboys are the ones who will not or can not learn, and need to be kicked in the ass and punched in the face, and then said, I got it. Loser! You seem to have overdosed on stupid pills this morning, as well as the obnoxious pills. You'll want to look up "obnoxious." XBOX ONE is irrelevant to the discussion. You'll want to look up "irrelevant." Relevant in the sense that it's been rejected as bad as Windows 8. |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
generic name wrote:
On 2013-06-21, XS11E wrote: generic name wrote: & m$ didn't provide a RTFM with win8 that was downloaded; don't think the RTFM is even available on the dvd version. There haven't been a REAL printed manual for a very long time. What does that have to do with RTFM? There are dozens of newsgroups that will tell you how to use Win8, dozens of user forums, dozens of websites. If you chose to NOT learn that's your choice. The poster claimed that if one does RTFM, the person will know everything about win8..... people cannot "RTFM" if they didn't get a manual. They DID get a manual, it's spread all over the internet in webpages, forums and newsgroups. That's how manuals are these days. That's how people learned earlier versions of Windows, that's how people learn Linux, that's how people learn Android, etc. etc. etc. Again, those who chose not to learn can only blame themselves. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
So, how do you get rid of the touch-centric start page and prevent the new touch-centric and dumbed-down MS apps from being used by default? If you'd RTFM you'd know, that's how I learned. Hint, I think it was this newsgroup. Another hint, leaving the start page alone, try hiting the Windows Key + x see what happens.... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On 2013-06-21, XS11E wrote:
generic name wrote: On 2013-06-21, XS11E wrote: generic name wrote: & m$ didn't provide a RTFM with win8 that was downloaded; don't think the RTFM is even available on the dvd version. There haven't been a REAL printed manual for a very long time. What does that have to do with RTFM? There are dozens of newsgroups that will tell you how to use Win8, dozens of user forums, dozens of websites. If you chose to NOT learn that's your choice. The poster claimed that if one does RTFM, the person will know everything about win8..... people cannot "RTFM" if they didn't get a manual. They DID get a manual, it's spread all over the internet in webpages, forums and newsgroups. That's how manuals are these days. That's how people learned earlier versions of Windows, that's how people learn Linux, that's how people learn Android, etc. etc. etc. Again, those who chose not to learn can only blame themselves. For a nit picker, the internet is NOT micro$oft; if anything, all the newsgroups & web are 3rd party people & have NO OFFICIAL info about win8. Internet + newsgroups + web NOT EQUAL microsoft's "manual". |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
generic name wrote:
For a nit picker, the internet is NOT micro$oft; if anything, all the newsgroups & web are 3rd party people & have NO OFFICIAL info about win8. Internet + newsgroups + web NOT EQUAL microsoft's "manual". Sorry but it does. The internet includes Microsoft's it's not "micro$oft", that only identifies you as too immature to be posting here) official forums as well as other sources. Got any other misinformation you'd like to post? -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 12:01:56 -0700, XS11E
Sorry but it does. The internet includes Microsoft's it's not "micro$oft", that only identifies you as too immature to be posting here) official forums as well as other sources. I of course agree with all you say. But, but, but... ....aren't you the guy who's been talking about what you call "Thunderburp"? -- Ken Blake |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On 2013-06-22, XS11E wrote:
generic name wrote: For a nit picker, the internet is NOT micro$oft; if anything, all the newsgroups & web are 3rd party people & have NO OFFICIAL info about win8. Internet + newsgroups + web NOT EQUAL microsoft's "manual". Sorry but it does. The internet includes Microsoft's it's not "micro$oft", that only identifies you as too immature to be posting here) official forums as well as other sources. Got any other misinformation you'd like to post? You haven't read the blurb in the microsoft's community site now renamed to "answers.microsoft.com" whereby it is stated repeatedly that it is a place where volunteers try to answer questions; it doesn't matter if some moderators may be microsoft employees but mostly some are part of the msvp club. Even if the microsoft website sat to look at the community forum to find answers to why microsoft drivers don't work, doesn't mean that it is a part of the microsoft organization. According to your way of "reasoning", then any misleading or incorrect info on the answers.microsoft.com forums & all statements stated here is part of the RTFM which means I'm right as my assertation is part of the RTFM. Anyone saying windows 8 is a piece of crap here is also correct since that statement is also part of the RTFM. Your claiming that I posted misinformation is wrong as with YOUR reasoning, if I mistated, the statements are also part of the "RTFM" and part of the official microsoft's manual. Probably I should have stated micro**** which would still be understandable to many & become part of the ms manual. The use of micro$oft is part of the "RTFM" as it has be used many times. |
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Windows 8 - a giant step backwards for Micro$oft
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 21:58:11 +0000 (UTC), generic name wrote:
Probably I should have stated micro**** which would still be understandable to many & become part of the ms manual. The use of micro$oft is part of the "RTFM" as it has be used many times. Don't worry, "XS11E" identifies him/herself as part of the Internet Improvement Project (so 1990s) so naturally has strange ideas. Printed manuals are expensive so not supplied with Windows these days, however there are various printed books available to take their place (although not cheap the relevant book is usually well worth it particularly to clueless users). |
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