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O.T. Frequent movie stops
I use a Blu Ray player to play movies on Amazon Prime.
I have frequent problems with the movie stopping. My dl speed is 12 Mbps. I use an Ethernet cable from my router directly to my blue ray player. And I have wifi turned off. I used to use Netflix at 3.0 Mbps and never had any interruptions. Any ideas? Thanks. |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
Andy wrote:
I use a Blu Ray player to play movies on Amazon Prime. I have frequent problems with the movie stopping. My dl speed is 12 Mbps. I use an Ethernet cable from my router directly to my blue ray player. And I have wifi turned off. I used to use Netflix at 3.0 Mbps and never had any interruptions. Any ideas? Thanks. For fun, you could try debugging playback with your computer first. Just in case there's a network neutrality issue, and your computer is going to suck at it too. ******* It's the usual story. No real help. It is what it is. "How to Solve Prime Video Issues on Your Computer" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201460940 "Prime Video System Requirements for Computers" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201422810 "Internet Connection * Standard Definition (SD) videos: 900 Kbits/sec * High Definition (HD) videos: 3.5 Mbits/sec" ******* You can test your link with Speedtest.net or fast.com (browser!). The fast.com is owned by Netflix. I get 14Mbps on fast.com and 15.3Mbps on Speedtest. Nodes like that are not likely to be "clamped" by network neutrality filtering. ISPs want their results to be high, as a sales pitch. Even if real services cannot use the link flat out. ******* I don't know of an effective way to test a Bluray ethernet playback path. The Bluray player would need a web interface on it, to give some access to internal state info. And then someone would have needed to engineer a speed test facility inside it, to check for neutrality problems. There might be other options like ChromeCast or Roku, but I'm not a multimedia guy. One really remote possibility, is there is a MTU mismatch between the player and the router. And packets are getting fragmented, to get through the plumbing. Back in the shared media era of Ethernet, I'd tell you to use a promiscuous receiver and a tool similar to Wireshark, On current day Ethernet, I don't know what I'd use to study the Bluray ethernet traffic. I'd have to stuff a computer with two NICs on it, in the "path" the Bluray player normally takes. That's all I can think of, and then, I don't know what software to use for such a beast. Maybe a Windows PC with two NICs could use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), and the Bluray player would have to be 192.168.1.x or so. And you'd need a way into it to set it up. Very messy. Paul |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:59:54 -0400, Paul
wrote: Andy wrote: I use a Blu Ray player to play movies on Amazon Prime. I have frequent problems with the movie stopping. My dl speed is 12 Mbps. I use an Ethernet cable from my router directly to my blue ray player. And I have wifi turned off. I used to use Netflix at 3.0 Mbps and never had any interruptions. Any ideas? Thanks. For fun, you could try debugging playback with your computer first. Just in case there's a network neutrality issue, and your computer is going to suck at it too. ******* It's the usual story. No real help. It is what it is. "How to Solve Prime Video Issues on Your Computer" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201460940 "Prime Video System Requirements for Computers" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201422810 "Internet Connection * Standard Definition (SD) videos: 900 Kbits/sec * High Definition (HD) videos: 3.5 Mbits/sec" ******* You can test your link with Speedtest.net or fast.com (browser!). The fast.com is owned by Netflix. I get 14Mbps on fast.com and 15.3Mbps on Speedtest. Nodes like that are not likely to be "clamped" by network neutrality filtering. ISPs want their results to be high, as a sales pitch. Even if real services cannot use the link flat out. ******* I don't know of an effective way to test a Bluray ethernet playback path. The Bluray player would need a web interface on it, to give some access to internal state info. And then someone would have needed to engineer a speed test facility inside it, to check for neutrality problems. There might be other options like ChromeCast or Roku, but I'm not a multimedia guy. One really remote possibility, is there is a MTU mismatch between the player and the router. And packets are getting fragmented, to get through the plumbing. Back in the shared media era of Ethernet, I'd tell you to use a promiscuous receiver and a tool similar to Wireshark, On current day Ethernet, I don't know what I'd use to study the Bluray ethernet traffic. I'd have to stuff a computer with two NICs on it, in the "path" the Bluray player normally takes. That's all I can think of, and then, I don't know what software to use for such a beast. Maybe a Windows PC with two NICs could use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), and the Bluray player would have to be 192.168.1.x or so. And you'd need a way into it to set it up. Very messy. Paul I have 10mb DSL and I stream movies all the time. Just playing with my ISP speed test when I am streaming a movie on another PC or the smart PC it looks like a movie eats about 3 mb on Amazon or Netflix. |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 5:59:58 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote: I use a Blu Ray player to play movies on Amazon Prime. I have frequent problems with the movie stopping. My dl speed is 12 Mbps. I use an Ethernet cable from my router directly to my blue ray player. And I have wifi turned off. I used to use Netflix at 3.0 Mbps and never had any interruptions. Any ideas? Thanks. For fun, you could try debugging playback with your computer first. Just in case there's a network neutrality issue, and your computer is going to suck at it too. ******* It's the usual story. No real help. It is what it is. "How to Solve Prime Video Issues on Your Computer" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201460940 "Prime Video System Requirements for Computers" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201422810 "Internet Connection * Standard Definition (SD) videos: 900 Kbits/sec * High Definition (HD) videos: 3.5 Mbits/sec" ******* You can test your link with Speedtest.net or fast.com (browser!). The fast.com is owned by Netflix. I get 14Mbps on fast.com and 15.3Mbps on Speedtest. Nodes like that are not likely to be "clamped" by network neutrality filtering. ISPs want their results to be high, as a sales pitch. Even if real services cannot use the link flat out. ******* I don't know of an effective way to test a Bluray ethernet playback path. The Bluray player would need a web interface on it, to give some access to internal state info. And then someone would have needed to engineer a speed test facility inside it, to check for neutrality problems. There might be other options like ChromeCast or Roku, but I'm not a multimedia guy. One really remote possibility, is there is a MTU mismatch between the player and the router. And packets are getting fragmented, to get through the plumbing. Back in the shared media era of Ethernet, I'd tell you to use a promiscuous receiver and a tool similar to Wireshark, On current day Ethernet, I don't know what I'd use to study the Bluray ethernet traffic. I'd have to stuff a computer with two NICs on it, in the "path" the Bluray player normally takes. That's all I can think of, and then, I don't know what software to use for such a beast. Maybe a Windows PC with two NICs could use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), and the Bluray player would have to be 192.168.1.x or so. And you'd need a way into it to set it up. Very messy. Paul I played an Amazon Prime movie thru Firefox. No problems. ?? Does not make sense. I tried a newer BR player with streaming. It said my bandwidth was not high enough. Andy |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 8:22:04 PM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 5:59:58 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote: Andy wrote: I use a Blu Ray player to play movies on Amazon Prime. I have frequent problems with the movie stopping. My dl speed is 12 Mbps. I use an Ethernet cable from my router directly to my blue ray player. And I have wifi turned off. I used to use Netflix at 3.0 Mbps and never had any interruptions. Any ideas? Thanks. For fun, you could try debugging playback with your computer first. Just in case there's a network neutrality issue, and your computer is going to suck at it too. ******* It's the usual story. No real help. It is what it is. "How to Solve Prime Video Issues on Your Computer" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201460940 "Prime Video System Requirements for Computers" https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=201422810 "Internet Connection * Standard Definition (SD) videos: 900 Kbits/sec * High Definition (HD) videos: 3.5 Mbits/sec" ******* You can test your link with Speedtest.net or fast.com (browser!). The fast.com is owned by Netflix. I get 14Mbps on fast.com and 15.3Mbps on Speedtest. Nodes like that are not likely to be "clamped" by network neutrality filtering. ISPs want their results to be high, as a sales pitch. Even if real services cannot use the link flat out. ******* I don't know of an effective way to test a Bluray ethernet playback path. The Bluray player would need a web interface on it, to give some access to internal state info. And then someone would have needed to engineer a speed test facility inside it, to check for neutrality problems. There might be other options like ChromeCast or Roku, but I'm not a multimedia guy. One really remote possibility, is there is a MTU mismatch between the player and the router. And packets are getting fragmented, to get through the plumbing. Back in the shared media era of Ethernet, I'd tell you to use a promiscuous receiver and a tool similar to Wireshark, On current day Ethernet, I don't know what I'd use to study the Bluray ethernet traffic. I'd have to stuff a computer with two NICs on it, in the "path" the Bluray player normally takes. That's all I can think of, and then, I don't know what software to use for such a beast. Maybe a Windows PC with two NICs could use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), and the Bluray player would have to be 192.168.1.x or so. And you'd need a way into it to set it up. Very messy. Paul I played an Amazon Prime movie thru Firefox. No problems. ?? Does not make sense. I tried a newer BR player with streaming. It said my bandwidth was not high enough. Andy I have a HDMI port on my computer. Can I run a cable to my TV and view movies that way? |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
Andy wrote:
I played an Amazon Prime movie thru Firefox. No problems. ?? Does not make sense. I tried a newer BR player with streaming. It said my bandwidth was not high enough. Andy Can I have some make and model numbers ? Perhaps this is a known issue. Maybe a Newegg customer review has the answer. I have a HDMI port on my computer. Can I run a cable to my TV and view movies that way? Yes, No, and Maybe. It depends on the mode. Video mirroring might mean, the main computer screen has the movie playing full screen in it, and the external HDMI output display has a copy of the primary screen. That's how it used to work, once upon a time. https://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/37395/93.71_limits.pdf Then Nvidia decided to disable that mode, presumably to stop video copying with a frame grabber tied to the second port. If you Spanned the desktop (made the TV the right hand part of your Task Bar, the desktop PC screen the left hand part), then you might be able to place the video player on the right screen (and watch TV). There is one Video Overlay plane, and the playing software may use that (for DRM reasons). Later OSes than WinXP, probably make the video fuzzy if you use a non-HDCP path. An attempt to play 1920x1080 over VGA on a modern OS, might result in fuzziness added to the picture. Now, if you have an ATI/AMD card, the decision to do that might have been made in a different (later) year, raising the odds there's at least some friendly mode available. This article is from a friendly era. If you have ATI/AMD video card, you might be in luck. http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-arti...rolCenter.aspx I don't have a digital monitor (DVI/HDMI) to test with here, so I can't test this. I do have SVideo, but really, who cares :-) I think I have played video that way, but only if it goes through a Channel 3 modulator to the analog TV set. The picture looks good that way, even if my TV is super-tiny. If you have chipset video (no video card), the situation could be quite grim. I.e. It might just be slow. ******* You're going to have to test this. It might mean visiting the proprietary control panel for video and see what's available. Paul |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:13:42 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote: I played an Amazon Prime movie thru Firefox. No problems. ?? Does not make sense. I tried a newer BR player with streaming. It said my bandwidth was not high enough. Andy Can I have some make and model numbers ? Perhaps this is a known issue. Maybe a Newegg customer review has the answer. I have a HDMI port on my computer. Can I run a cable to my TV and view movies that way? Yes, No, and Maybe. It depends on the mode. Video mirroring might mean, the main computer screen has the movie playing full screen in it, and the external HDMI output display has a copy of the primary screen. That's how it used to work, once upon a time. https://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/37395/93.71_limits.pdf Then Nvidia decided to disable that mode, presumably to stop video copying with a frame grabber tied to the second port. If you Spanned the desktop (made the TV the right hand part of your Task Bar, the desktop PC screen the left hand part), then you might be able to place the video player on the right screen (and watch TV). There is one Video Overlay plane, and the playing software may use that (for DRM reasons). Later OSes than WinXP, probably make the video fuzzy if you use a non-HDCP path. An attempt to play 1920x1080 over VGA on a modern OS, might result in fuzziness added to the picture. Now, if you have an ATI/AMD card, the decision to do that might have been made in a different (later) year, raising the odds there's at least some friendly mode available. This article is from a friendly era. If you have ATI/AMD video card, you might be in luck. http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-arti...rolCenter.aspx I don't have a digital monitor (DVI/HDMI) to test with here, so I can't test this. I do have SVideo, but really, who cares :-) I think I have played video that way, but only if it goes through a Channel 3 modulator to the analog TV set. The picture looks good that way, even if my TV is super-tiny. If you have chipset video (no video card), the situation could be quite grim. I.e. It might just be slow. ******* You're going to have to test this. It might mean visiting the proprietary control panel for video and see what's available. Paul bdp s185 and bdp s3700 Andy |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
Andy wrote:
bdp s185 and bdp s3700 Andy I'm going out for a while, so I'll drop this one for the s185. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16882105654 "Long boot time and Blu-Ray spool up. The registration at both Sony.com AND Netflix was tedious. Netflix would stream an HD movie for about a minute or two and go to buffering for at least 30 seconds. It happened repeatedly for every movie I tried. I was using the same ethernet cable from my router that I use to stream Netflix on my PS3 and have never had this problem. Started a movie on this player and switched the cable back to the PS3 and finished the movie no problem. Oddly, when Netflix first starts to stream it does a "test" and shows me 10-13 Mbps, but when the movie starts it drops to under 2Mbps every time. The boot times are kind of long, and the unit sends no signal at all during short transitions which makes my Yamaha receiver AND TV search for signals repeatedly before any video even starts playing" Some sort of player firmware problem ? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0R4-0004-000E2 "I have a 20 Mbps connection and can stream sows on 2 TV's at once no problem, with this unit shows are gitery, grainey, and Freeze. I recommend avoiding" Maybe the processor in the player isn't strong enough. It would need a hardware renderer for the BD storage format. Maybe the Netflix streaming uses a different video format, and it's using the processor to decode it. To work right, if one feature uses a hardware decoder, both should use a hardware decoder. If one feature uses a super-strong processor, the other one should be able to use it too. It really depends on whether Netflix is "sending the right flavor" as to how this will work out. Paul |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:48:20 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote: I have a HDMI port on my computer. Can I run a cable to my TV and view movies that way? I just put an old PC under all of my TVs. |
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O.T. Frequent movie stops
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 10:33:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:48:20 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote: I have a HDMI port on my computer. Can I run a cable to my TV and view movies that way? I just put an old PC under all of my TVs. I ended up getting a Roku stick. I had to use the 720p setting because 1080p required more bandwidth than I had. Andy |
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