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  #1  
Old December 6th 05, 10:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Hi all!

I need to write a script to ensure the OneCare up-to-date. I found mpdef.vdm
and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare
Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory, and I suppose this is the virus definition
files. Is my supposion correct? More, how often MS releases new virus
definitions?

Thanx for eny help!

--
R.V.
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Old December 6th 05, 02:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| Hi all!
|
| I need to write a script to ensure the OneCare up-to-date. I found mpdef.vdm
| and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare
| Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory, and I suppose this is the virus definition
| files. Is my supposion correct? More, how often MS releases new virus
| definitions?
|
| Thanx for eny help!
|

It's a Beta application. Don't waste your time and effort on it unless you are a paid Beta
tester.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Old December 6th 05, 03:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Hi David!

I do not care the build of OneCare, I just need to resolve the problem.
Customer wants it, that's all. If I do not need to write that script, I would
never ask, don't you think? :-)

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R.V.


"David H. Lipman" wrote:

From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| Hi all!
|
| I need to write a script to ensure the OneCare up-to-date. I found mpdef.vdm
| and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare
| Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory, and I suppose this is the virus definition
| files. Is my supposion correct? More, how often MS releases new virus
| definitions?
|
| Thanx for eny help!
|

It's a Beta application. Don't waste your time and effort on it unless you are a paid Beta
tester.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



  #4  
Old December 6th 05, 03:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Default OneCare Virus definitions

Windows OneCare (beta) updates itself automatically.

Ref: http://www.windowsonecare.com/prodinfo/Default.aspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"Radovan Vojtek" wrote:

| Hi all!
|
| I need to write a script to ensure the OneCare up-to-date. I found mpdef.vdm
| and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare
| Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory, and I suppose this is the virus definition
| files. Is my supposion correct? More, how often MS releases new virus
| definitions?
|
| Thanx for eny help!
|
| --
| R.V.
  #5  
Old December 6th 05, 03:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| Hi David!
|
| I do not care the build of OneCare, I just need to resolve the problem.
| Customer wants it, that's all. If I do not need to write that script, I would
| never ask, don't you think? :-)
|

The customer should be using a well known, well trusted, AV application such as Kaspersky or
NOD32.

If they are your "customer" you should be guiding them to make the right software choices
for the best protection don't you think.

You customer shouldn't be using a Beta product for such and important role. A mistake or
bug in the Beta (and that's very possible since it is a Beta) leaves the customer "At Risk".

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Old December 6th 05, 03:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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David, if you cannot (or do not want) help me, please, do not moralize! I'm
only programmer, who are forced to create a script. Your statements are
useless for me.

Thanx

--
R.V.


"David H. Lipman" wrote:

From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| Hi David!
|
| I do not care the build of OneCare, I just need to resolve the problem.
| Customer wants it, that's all. If I do not need to write that script, I would
| never ask, don't you think? :-)
|

The customer should be using a well known, well trusted, AV application such as Kaspersky or
NOD32.

If they are your "customer" you should be guiding them to make the right software choices
for the best protection don't you think.

You customer shouldn't be using a Beta product for such and important role. A mistake or
bug in the Beta (and that's very possible since it is a Beta) leaves the customer "At Risk".

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



  #7  
Old December 6th 05, 03:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Hi Carey!

Thanx for your reply!

What I actually need is VPN quarantine script that check computer for
several settings - one of these settings is installed and enabled AV
software. So I need to get last OneCare update time or enforce OneCare to
update.

It's my problem more clear? (sorry for my english...)

--
R.V.


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

Windows OneCare (beta) updates itself automatically.

Ref: http://www.windowsonecare.com/prodinfo/Default.aspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Radovan Vojtek" wrote:

| Hi all!
|
| I need to write a script to ensure the OneCare up-to-date. I found mpdef.vdm
| and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare
| Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory, and I suppose this is the virus definition
| files. Is my supposion correct? More, how often MS releases new virus
| definitions?
|
| Thanx for eny help!
|
| --
| R.V.

  #8  
Old December 6th 05, 03:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| David, if you cannot (or do not want) help me, please, do not moralize! I'm
| only programmer, who are forced to create a script. Your statements are
| useless for me.
|
| Thanx
|

Then your assistance to the customer is equally as useless.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


  #9  
Old December 6th 05, 04:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Dave, plase!

I'm not in possition to "rectify" the customer. As I wrote, I just have to
write the script. Do you understand it? That's all, discussion over! I could
dislike it, however I have to write the script.

--
R.V.


"David H. Lipman" wrote:

From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| David, if you cannot (or do not want) help me, please, do not moralize! I'm
| only programmer, who are forced to create a script. Your statements are
| useless for me.
|
| Thanx
|

Then your assistance to the customer is equally as useless.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



  #10  
Old December 6th 05, 04:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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"Radovan Vojtek" wrote in message
...
Hi all!

I need to write a script to ensure the OneCare up-to-date. I found
mpdef.vdm
and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare
Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory, and I suppose this is the virus
definition
files. Is my supposion correct? More, how often MS releases new virus
definitions?

Thanx for eny help!

--
R.V.



So why don't you note the datestamp of the files for OneCare (or use a
monitor, like InstallWatch) and do an update to see which files got changed.
That should zero you in on which files get updated when OneCare gets
updated. Getting the dates for files is easy in scripts, even in .bat
scripts, but then you never said WHICH scripting language you were using
(but I doubt any could not get the datestamp for a file or could not run a
dir command on the file to grab the datestamp from stdout).

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Old December 6th 05, 04:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| Dave, plase!
|
| I'm not in possition to "rectify" the customer. As I wrote, I just have to
| write the script. Do you understand it? That's all, discussion over! I could
| dislike it, however I have to write the script.
|

Ok how's this. You won't be able to because all the constructs are not documented because
it is still a Beta product.

It is NOT a mature product. It isn't like you can download a SuperDAT from McAfee, WEB IDES
from Sophos or download a comparable EXE from Symantec.

Like it or dislike it, if the "customer" is a company or corporation the product should not
be used in a production network. Its use is contraindicated by its Beta status, lack of
documentation and lack of support.

If you are a professional, it would be professional malpractice NOT to point out these facts
and suggest a proper corporate anti virus solution.

Otherwise, take it out of the News group and contact Microsoft directly.

https://beta.windowsonecare.com/supp...ort.aspx?ar=no

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


  #12  
Old December 6th 05, 04:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Dave,

thanx for link, that's the only think I can really thank to you for.

--
R.V.


"David H. Lipman" wrote:

From: "Radovan Vojtek"

| Dave, plase!
|
| I'm not in possition to "rectify" the customer. As I wrote, I just have to
| write the script. Do you understand it? That's all, discussion over! I could
| dislike it, however I have to write the script.
|

Ok how's this. You won't be able to because all the constructs are not documented because
it is still a Beta product.

It is NOT a mature product. It isn't like you can download a SuperDAT from McAfee, WEB IDES
from Sophos or download a comparable EXE from Symantec.

Like it or dislike it, if the "customer" is a company or corporation the product should not
be used in a production network. Its use is contraindicated by its Beta status, lack of
documentation and lack of support.

If you are a professional, it would be professional malpractice NOT to point out these facts
and suggest a proper corporate anti virus solution.

Otherwise, take it out of the News group and contact Microsoft directly.

https://beta.windowsonecare.com/supp...ort.aspx?ar=no

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



  #13  
Old December 6th 05, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
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Hi Vanguard!

Thanx for your answer!

I have the script for "age of file" detection, however I'm not sure, if the
files mpdef.vdm and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows
OneCare Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory are that ones to be detected.
Actually, this the right question I looking the answer for

--
R.V.


"Vanguard" wrote:

"Radovan Vojtek" wrote in message
...
Hi all!

I need to write a script to ensure the OneCare up-to-date. I found
mpdef.vdm
and mpdaily.vdm in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare
Live\AntivirusData\DataDirectory, and I suppose this is the virus
definition
files. Is my supposion correct? More, how often MS releases new virus
definitions?

Thanx for eny help!

--
R.V.



So why don't you note the datestamp of the files for OneCare (or use a
monitor, like InstallWatch) and do an update to see which files got changed.
That should zero you in on which files get updated when OneCare gets
updated. Getting the dates for files is easy in scripts, even in .bat
scripts, but then you never said WHICH scripting language you were using
(but I doubt any could not get the datestamp for a file or could not run a
dir command on the file to grab the datestamp from stdout).


 




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