How to set default page settings?

Hi,

I am struggling with setting default page settings in Windows XP.

I have found three ways to accomplish this:

ONE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "General" ==
button "Printing Preferences" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

TWO:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Advanced" ==
button "Printing Defaults" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

THREE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Device Settings"
== dropdown under "Form To Tray Assignment - Tractor Feed".
__________________

Although you might assume that "Printing Preferences"; "Printing Defaults"
and; "Device Settings" points to default settings, it actually (in my
situation) does nothing with the default settings.

When I start an application like notepad, and look at the page setup (under
"File" == "Page Setup"), I can not see any of my default settings as
applied in steps one to three.
In the print form I still have to click the button "Properties" == button
"Advanced" == dropdown under "Paper/Output - Paper Size" to select the
correct paper size.

Is there any way that the settings as mentioned in step one to three can be
propagated to the settings in the Windows applications (such as notepad)?

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»

ONE is the user DEVMODE (device mode) setting. These should get loaded by
the application the next time it is launched.

TWO are the device DEVMODE setting. User devmode uses device devmode until
changed.

THREE is device configuration. This can affect what options are available
in the user and device Devmodes but the application will never see this.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am struggling with setting default page settings in Windows XP.

I have found three ways to accomplish this:

ONE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "General" ==
button "Printing Preferences" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

TWO:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Advanced" ==
button "Printing Defaults" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

THREE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Device Settings"
== dropdown under "Form To Tray Assignment - Tractor Feed".
__________________

Although you might assume that "Printing Preferences"; "Printing Defaults"
and; "Device Settings" points to default settings, it actually (in my
situation) does nothing with the default settings.

When I start an application like notepad, and look at the page setup
(under "File" == "Page Setup"), I can not see any of my default settings
as applied in steps one to three.
In the print form I still have to click the button "Properties" == button
"Advanced" == dropdown under "Paper/Output - Paper Size" to select the
correct paper size.

Is there any way that the settings as mentioned in step one to three can
be propagated to the settings in the Windows applications (such as
notepad)?

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»

Dear Alan,

In my case option ONE and TWO is not applied when the app. launches.
I have tested this on five XP machines and two win2k3 machines.

It is very frustrating for our company, we print about hundred pages a day
on this printer.
The paper has a specific size, my users have to manually select this paper
size before the can print.
We have an option in our back-office app. that can print all these pages in
batch, but than the wrong paper size is selected.

Is there any other way to set default page settings (regedit maybe?)

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»


"Alan Morris [MSFT]" schreef in bericht
...
ONE is the user DEVMODE (device mode) setting. These should get loaded by
the application the next time it is launched.

TWO are the device DEVMODE setting. User devmode uses device devmode
until changed.

THREE is device configuration. This can affect what options are available
in the user and device Devmodes but the application will never see this.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am struggling with setting default page settings in Windows XP.

I have found three ways to accomplish this:

ONE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "General" ==
button "Printing Preferences" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

TWO:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Advanced" ==
button "Printing Defaults" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

THREE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Device
Settings" == dropdown under "Form To Tray Assignment - Tractor Feed".
__________________

Although you might assume that "Printing Preferences"; "Printing
Defaults" and; "Device Settings" points to default settings, it actually
(in my situation) does nothing with the default settings.

When I start an application like notepad, and look at the page setup
(under "File" == "Page Setup"), I can not see any of my default settings
as applied in steps one to three.
In the print form I still have to click the button "Properties" ==
button "Advanced" == dropdown under "Paper/Output - Paper Size" to
select the correct paper size.

Is there any way that the settings as mentioned in step one to three can
be propagated to the settings in the Windows applications (such as
notepad)?

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»

Charlie,

What is the driver and it's version? Have you tried installing a newer
version of the driver from the manufacturer's web site?

I have seen some older HP drivers save the DEVMODE for a document as "ONE"
or "TWO", when it's actually not permanent unless the application decides to
save it. This does not explain what you are describing, but it does
demonstrate that some drivers do odd things with DEVMODEs.

Some applications like Microsoft Word will save a DEVMODE along with the
document, but Notepad is not one of them, so I agree that this behaviour is
unexpected.

Paul

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Dear Alan,

In my case option ONE and TWO is not applied when the app. launches.
I have tested this on five XP machines and two win2k3 machines.

It is very frustrating for our company, we print about hundred pages a day
on this printer.
The paper has a specific size, my users have to manually select this paper
size before the can print.
We have an option in our back-office app. that can print all these pages
in batch, but than the wrong paper size is selected.

Is there any other way to set default page settings (regedit maybe?)

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»


"Alan Morris [MSFT]" schreef in bericht
...
ONE is the user DEVMODE (device mode) setting. These should get loaded
by the application the next time it is launched.

TWO are the device DEVMODE setting. User devmode uses device devmode
until changed.

THREE is device configuration. This can affect what options are
available in the user and device Devmodes but the application will never
see this.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am struggling with setting default page settings in Windows XP.

I have found three ways to accomplish this:

ONE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "General" ==
button "Printing Preferences" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

TWO:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Advanced" ==
button "Printing Defaults" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

THREE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Device
Settings" == dropdown under "Form To Tray Assignment - Tractor Feed".
__________________

Although you might assume that "Printing Preferences"; "Printing
Defaults" and; "Device Settings" points to default settings, it actually
(in my situation) does nothing with the default settings.

When I start an application like notepad, and look at the page setup
(under "File" == "Page Setup"), I can not see any of my default
settings as applied in steps one to three.
In the print form I still have to click the button "Properties" ==
button "Advanced" == dropdown under "Paper/Output - Paper Size" to
select the correct paper size.

Is there any way that the settings as mentioned in step one to three can
be propagated to the settings in the Windows applications (such as
notepad)?

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»

Paul,

The driver is for an OKI MICROLINE 320 matrix printer.
I just downloaded the latest driver from the manufacturer's website, did not
make any difference.

I have also tested the DEVMODE on one of our (more updated) laser printers,
that works fine indeed!
Maybe propagating the DEVMODE it is not supported on this old type of
matrix printer (build: 1987)

But I have noticed that applications like Ms. Word can save a DEVMODE.
When I use the macro recorder in Excel, it looks like this:

With ActiveSheet.PageSetup
.PaperSize = xlPaperA4
End With

So I think we have to use this in our back-office app. as well, if
possible.........................


--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»


"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - SDK]" schreef in
bericht ...
Charlie,

What is the driver and it's version? Have you tried installing a newer
version of the driver from the manufacturer's web site?

I have seen some older HP drivers save the DEVMODE for a document as "ONE"
or "TWO", when it's actually not permanent unless the application decides
to save it. This does not explain what you are describing, but it does
demonstrate that some drivers do odd things with DEVMODEs.

Some applications like Microsoft Word will save a DEVMODE along with the
document, but Notepad is not one of them, so I agree that this behaviour
is unexpected.

Paul

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Dear Alan,

In my case option ONE and TWO is not applied when the app. launches.
I have tested this on five XP machines and two win2k3 machines.

It is very frustrating for our company, we print about hundred pages a
day on this printer.
The paper has a specific size, my users have to manually select this
paper size before the can print.
We have an option in our back-office app. that can print all these pages
in batch, but than the wrong paper size is selected.

Is there any other way to set default page settings (regedit maybe?)

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»


"Alan Morris [MSFT]" schreef in bericht
...
ONE is the user DEVMODE (device mode) setting. These should get loaded
by the application the next time it is launched.

TWO are the device DEVMODE setting. User devmode uses device devmode
until changed.

THREE is device configuration. This can affect what options are
available in the user and device Devmodes but the application will never
see this.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am struggling with setting default page settings in Windows XP.

I have found three ways to accomplish this:

ONE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "General" ==
button "Printing Preferences" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

TWO:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Advanced" ==
button "Printing Defaults" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

THREE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Device
Settings" == dropdown under "Form To Tray Assignment - Tractor Feed".
__________________

Although you might assume that "Printing Preferences"; "Printing
Defaults" and; "Device Settings" points to default settings, it
actually (in my situation) does nothing with the default settings.

When I start an application like notepad, and look at the page setup
(under "File" == "Page Setup"), I can not see any of my default
settings as applied in steps one to three.
In the print form I still have to click the button "Properties" ==
button "Advanced" == dropdown under "Paper/Output - Paper Size" to
select the correct paper size.

Is there any way that the settings as mentioned in step one to three
can be propagated to the settings in the Windows applications (such as
notepad)?

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»

It doesn't matter how old the printer is, it matters how the driver was
written.

If you are using a driver built for the correct version of Windows, Windows
should be able to maintain the user and machine DEVMODEs no problem.
However, the driver may do something odd to override that. With some
drivers, they just keep reusing old code and rebuilding it for newer
versions of Windows, without regard to proper behaviour or new requirements.

It sounds like you are saying some drivers work fine for you, whereas the
Oki Microline 320 one does not.

Therefore, I would suggest trying a different driver. For example, any of
the generic Epson dot matrix drivers that come with Windows such as Epson
FX-80. I had one of those when I was a kid

Paul

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Paul,

The driver is for an OKI MICROLINE 320 matrix printer.
I just downloaded the latest driver from the manufacturer's website, did
not make any difference.

I have also tested the DEVMODE on one of our (more updated) laser
printers, that works fine indeed!
Maybe propagating the DEVMODE it is not supported on this old type of
matrix printer (build: 1987)

But I have noticed that applications like Ms. Word can save a DEVMODE.
When I use the macro recorder in Excel, it looks like this:

With ActiveSheet.PageSetup
.PaperSize = xlPaperA4
End With

So I think we have to use this in our back-office app. as well, if
possible.........................


--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»


"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - SDK]" schreef
in bericht ...
Charlie,

What is the driver and it's version? Have you tried installing a newer
version of the driver from the manufacturer's web site?

I have seen some older HP drivers save the DEVMODE for a document as
"ONE" or "TWO", when it's actually not permanent unless the application
decides to save it. This does not explain what you are describing, but it
does demonstrate that some drivers do odd things with DEVMODEs.

Some applications like Microsoft Word will save a DEVMODE along with the
document, but Notepad is not one of them, so I agree that this behaviour
is unexpected.

Paul

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Dear Alan,

In my case option ONE and TWO is not applied when the app. launches.
I have tested this on five XP machines and two win2k3 machines.

It is very frustrating for our company, we print about hundred pages a
day on this printer.
The paper has a specific size, my users have to manually select this
paper size before the can print.
We have an option in our back-office app. that can print all these pages
in batch, but than the wrong paper size is selected.

Is there any other way to set default page settings (regedit maybe?)

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»


"Alan Morris [MSFT]" schreef in bericht
...
ONE is the user DEVMODE (device mode) setting. These should get loaded
by the application the next time it is launched.

TWO are the device DEVMODE setting. User devmode uses device devmode
until changed.

THREE is device configuration. This can affect what options are
available in the user and device Devmodes but the application will
never see this.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

charlie brown wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am struggling with setting default page settings in Windows XP.

I have found three ways to accomplish this:

ONE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "General" ==
button "Printing Preferences" == button "Advanced" == dropdown under
"Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

TWO:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Advanced"
== button "Printing Defaults" == button "Advanced" == dropdown
under "Paper/Output - Paper Size".
__________________

THREE:
Choose "Properties" (right-click on the printer) == tab "Device
Settings" == dropdown under "Form To Tray Assignment - Tractor Feed".
__________________

Although you might assume that "Printing Preferences"; "Printing
Defaults" and; "Device Settings" points to default settings, it
actually (in my situation) does nothing with the default settings.

When I start an application like notepad, and look at the page setup
(under "File" == "Page Setup"), I can not see any of my default
settings as applied in steps one to three.
In the print form I still have to click the button "Properties" ==
button "Advanced" == dropdown under "Paper/Output - Paper Size" to
select the correct paper size.

Is there any way that the settings as mentioned in step one to three
can be propagated to the settings in the Windows applications (such as
notepad)?

--
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·»
«.............. CHARLIE ..............»
«·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»