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  #16  
Old June 3rd 08, 11:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gerry
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Posts: 9,437
Default XPAntivirus question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan (with
updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and AdAware...nothing's
showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open then
close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get around
Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser, and
a download window--which I did not respond to, instead, I shut
down, and then ran everything. It's not in the Control
Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates, with
Notify Me so I can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you


What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a program?Use
the first five steps below to try and find out if your computer is
under attack. If it is not under attack, the remaining sections
below show you how to continue using the program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might
also prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run
antivirus software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates
for Windows (for more information, see Related Topics). In Microsoft
Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center provides a
one-stop place to check these essentials. You might need to log on
as a computer administrator to complete some of these steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2 but
you can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You can
also get the latest updates for your computer by going to the
Windows Update Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates when
you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the
following: If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the
instructions provided for removing it safely. Do not change your DEP
settings. If no threats are detected, and if you are using the
recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this case,
the program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and you
should see if a DEP-compatible version of the program is available.
What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a
network) and a network administrator manages security essentials for
you, these settings are hidden. To view or change security settings,
you must contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for using
the Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer
administrator, you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the
Security Center. This procedure requires you to restart your
computer, so save your work before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties dialog,
on the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and then
double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your antivirus
software did not detect a threat, your computer is probably not under
attack. In this case, the program that DEP closed might not run
correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a DEP-compatible version
of the program is available, visit the software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the
publisher has not released an updated version of the program, you
can turn off DEP for the program that was closed. You will be able
to use the program but it might be vulnerable to an attack that
could spread to your other programs and files. If you choose to turn
off DEP for a program, it's a good idea to check frequently for an
updated version of the program and, after you update it, to turn on
DEP again. For more information about changing DEP settings, click
Related Topics.



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  #17  
Old June 4th 08, 01:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Laughingstar~*[_3_]
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Posts: 202
Default XPAntivirus question

Ok... I knew it wasn't - sorry for the goof up - but I have always been told
not to use 2 malware programs, and not 2 AVs ...

Thank you.
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Spybot S & D is not an anti-virus. I have Ad-Aware as well but I think
Spybot does a better job.


~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Laughingstar~* wrote:
I used to use it, but went to Ad Aware -- what's the difference?
Also, isn't it useless to use 2 AVs -- I have Avast ...

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Spybot S & D is a usefull tool to have to back up an anti-virus.
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Laughingstar~* wrote:
TY -
wrote in message
...

Top posting - easier
"Laughingstar~*" I use Avast because it gives audio and visual
warning , and it`s free . I used to use AVG but it wouldn`t update
properly . However , Avast updates *usually* daily but I believe it
can only be run manually .
I also use Cookiewall which lets me know about new cookies ; to
keep , temporarily , or delete .
Jim





On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:34:48 -0500, "Laughingstar~*"
wrote:

thank you - I have to use a Screen Reader (Dragon) so I sometimes
miss things unless I enlarge my window...

I did run it, and had only 23 "low-level" threat cookies ...
sheesh.... I couldn't remove them w/o buying the program so I did
my monthly
SEARCH and
entered ' cookies ' and up popped 61 which are now all gone (per
usual). Interesting, though, last week I 'found' a new folder in
My Computer - "File
Sharing" - I couldn't delete it, so ran Avast, and also Ad Aware,
check to be sure my MS stuff was ON, etc. and also ran Trend
Micro... its gone ... Brings up a question? Should we run AVAST
manually, daily??? I
somehow thought it didn't need to be run daily, manually -- used
to have AVG which ran itself obviously. AVAST isn't so obvious,
if ... thank you everyone --
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Did you scroll down the page in the link to see the information
provided about your problem?

If you had clicked on Home you would have found this!

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original content, consisting of computer help and tutorials, in
such a way that the
beginning computer user can understand. Getting started using our
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Once again, welcome and enjoy your stay!

Of course someone else could be having a laugh at your expense
and put you
in touch with the CIA G


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Laughingstar~* wrote:
Who are these people, please?

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:41:49 -0500, "Laughingstar~*"
wrote:

This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan
(with updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and
AdAware...nothing's showing up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open
then close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get
around Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my
browser, and a download window--which I did not respond to,
instead, I shut down, and then ran everything. It's not in
the Control Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's
when rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic
Updates, with Notify Me so I can select what to download
(usually all). How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you

Hi ,take a look here ,
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic111715.html





  #18  
Old June 4th 08, 01:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Laughingstar~*[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 202
Default FOr newbies in system security!

oh ok... thank you

but, I 'stroll' in the dark enough, lately.


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan (with
updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and AdAware...nothing's
showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open then
close,
even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get around Yahoo, much
less
get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this program
(XP
Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser, and a download
window--which I did not respond to, instead, I shut down, and then ran
everything. It's not in the Control Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs,
nor
on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles
began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates, with Notify Me so
I
can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you

What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a program?Use the
first five steps below to try and find out if your computer is under
attack. If it is not under attack, the remaining sections below show you
how to continue using the program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might also
prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run antivirus
software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates for Windows
(for more information, see Related Topics). In Microsoft Windows XP
Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center provides a one-stop place to
check these essentials. You might need to log on as a computer
administrator to complete some of these steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and then
double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2 but you
can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You can also
get the latest updates for your computer by going to the Windows Update
Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates when
you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the following:
If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the instructions
provided for removing it safely. Do not change your DEP settings.
If no threats are detected, and if you are using the recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this case, the
program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and you should see if
a DEP-compatible version of the program is available.
What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a network)
and a network administrator manages security essentials for you, these
settings are hidden. To view or change security settings, you must
contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for using the
Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer administrator,
you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the Security Center. This
procedure requires you to restart your computer, so save your work
before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties dialog, on
the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and then
double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your antivirus
software did not detect a threat, your computer is probably not under
attack. In this case, the program that DEP closed might not run
correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a DEP-compatible version of
the program is available, visit the software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the publisher
has not released an updated version of the program, you can turn off DEP
for the program that was closed. You will be able to use the program but
it might be vulnerable to an attack that could spread to your other
programs and files. If you choose to turn off DEP for a program, it's a
good idea to check frequently for an updated version of the program and,
after you update it, to turn on DEP again. For more information about
changing DEP settings, click Related Topics.





It's DEP, and i don't know a dem thing about DEP, i know it calls DEP
It's something with execution files and functioning(read recognizing of
viruses)on the computer.

For newbies in protection and repairing system i find this page ok,
interesting,
http://www.infopackets.com/channels/...nic_review.htm



Bye!



  #19  
Old June 4th 08, 01:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Laughingstar~*[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 202
Default FOr newbies in system security!

I, personally, would never "touch" my Registry - in fact, or via a program
.... that's for the experts IMHO ... can't you just 'see' a blind person
trying to listen to the entries and "fix" them!!!??

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Registry Mechanic is not something to be recommended:
http://aumha.net:80/viewtopic.php?t=28099

Once you have used a registry cleaner there is no way to know whether it
has damaged the registry.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Majki Majk wrote:
Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan (with
updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and AdAware...nothing's
showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open then
close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get around
Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser,
and a download window--which I did not respond to, instead, I shut
down, and then ran everything. It's not in the Control
Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates, with
Notify Me so I can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you

What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a
program?Use the first five steps below to try and find out if your
computer is under attack. If it is not under attack, the remaining
sections below show you how to continue using the program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might
also prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run
antivirus software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates
for Windows (for more information, see Related Topics). In
Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center
provides a one-stop place to check these essentials. You might need
to log on as a computer administrator to complete some of these
steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2
but you can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You can
also get the latest updates for your computer by going to the
Windows Update Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates
when you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the
following: If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the
instructions provided for removing it safely. Do not change your
DEP settings.
If no threats are detected, and if you are using the recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this case,
the program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and you
should see if a DEP-compatible version of the program is available.
What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a
network) and a network administrator manages security essentials
for you, these settings are hidden. To view or change security
settings, you must contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for
using the Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer
administrator, you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the
Security Center. This procedure requires you to restart your
computer, so save your work before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties dialog,
on the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your
antivirus software did not detect a threat, your computer is
probably not under attack. In this case, the program that DEP
closed might not run correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a
DEP-compatible version of the program is available, visit the
software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the
publisher has not released an updated version of the program, you
can turn off DEP for the program that was closed. You will be able
to use the program but it might be vulnerable to an attack that
could spread to your other programs and files. If you choose to
turn off DEP for a program, it's a good idea to check frequently
for an updated version of the program and, after you update it, to
turn on DEP again. For more information about changing DEP
settings, click Related Topics.





It's DEP, and i don't know a dem thing about DEP, i know it calls DEP
It's something with execution files and functioning(read
recognizing of viruses)on the computer.

For newbies in protection and repairing system i find this page ok,
interesting,
http://www.infopackets.com/channels/...nic_review.htm



Bye!





  #20  
Old June 4th 08, 01:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Laughingstar~*[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 202
Default XPAntivirus question

As 'they' say - check Google first ... Sorry - but thank you, too ...

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan (with
updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and AdAware...nothing's
showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open then
close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get around
Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser, and
a download window--which I did not respond to, instead, I shut
down, and then ran everything. It's not in the Control
Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates, with
Notify Me so I can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you


What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a program?Use
the first five steps below to try and find out if your computer is
under attack. If it is not under attack, the remaining sections
below show you how to continue using the program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might
also prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run
antivirus software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates
for Windows (for more information, see Related Topics). In Microsoft
Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center provides a
one-stop place to check these essentials. You might need to log on
as a computer administrator to complete some of these steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2 but
you can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You can
also get the latest updates for your computer by going to the
Windows Update Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates when
you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the
following: If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the
instructions provided for removing it safely. Do not change your DEP
settings. If no threats are detected, and if you are using the
recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this case,
the program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and you
should see if a DEP-compatible version of the program is available.
What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a
network) and a network administrator manages security essentials for
you, these settings are hidden. To view or change security settings,
you must contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for using
the Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer
administrator, you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the
Security Center. This procedure requires you to restart your
computer, so save your work before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties dialog,
on the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and then
double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your antivirus
software did not detect a threat, your computer is probably not under
attack. In this case, the program that DEP closed might not run
correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a DEP-compatible version
of the program is available, visit the software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the
publisher has not released an updated version of the program, you
can turn off DEP for the program that was closed. You will be able
to use the program but it might be vulnerable to an attack that
could spread to your other programs and files. If you choose to turn
off DEP for a program, it's a good idea to check frequently for an
updated version of the program and, after you update it, to turn on
DEP again. For more information about changing DEP settings, click
Related Topics.





  #21  
Old June 4th 08, 01:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Laughingstar~*[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 202
Default FOr newbies in system security!

Please excuse me for mistakenly chiming in on this topic - I didn't
differentiate the Subject ...

"Laughingstar~*" wrote in message
...
I, personally, would never "touch" my Registry - in fact, or via a
program ... that's for the experts IMHO ... can't you just 'see' a blind
person trying to listen to the entries and "fix" them!!!??

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Registry Mechanic is not something to be recommended:
http://aumha.net:80/viewtopic.php?t=28099

Once you have used a registry cleaner there is no way to know whether it
has damaged the registry.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Majki Majk wrote:
Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan (with
updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and AdAware...nothing's
showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open then
close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get around
Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser,
and a download window--which I did not respond to, instead, I shut
down, and then ran everything. It's not in the Control
Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates, with
Notify Me so I can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you

What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a
program?Use the first five steps below to try and find out if your
computer is under attack. If it is not under attack, the remaining
sections below show you how to continue using the program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might
also prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run
antivirus software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates
for Windows (for more information, see Related Topics). In
Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center
provides a one-stop place to check these essentials. You might need
to log on as a computer administrator to complete some of these
steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2
but you can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You can
also get the latest updates for your computer by going to the
Windows Update Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates
when you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the
following: If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the
instructions provided for removing it safely. Do not change your
DEP settings.
If no threats are detected, and if you are using the recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this case,
the program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and you
should see if a DEP-compatible version of the program is available.
What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a
network) and a network administrator manages security essentials
for you, these settings are hidden. To view or change security
settings, you must contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for
using the Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer
administrator, you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the
Security Center. This procedure requires you to restart your
computer, so save your work before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties dialog,
on the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your
antivirus software did not detect a threat, your computer is
probably not under attack. In this case, the program that DEP
closed might not run correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a
DEP-compatible version of the program is available, visit the
software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the
publisher has not released an updated version of the program, you
can turn off DEP for the program that was closed. You will be able
to use the program but it might be vulnerable to an attack that
could spread to your other programs and files. If you choose to
turn off DEP for a program, it's a good idea to check frequently
for an updated version of the program and, after you update it, to
turn on DEP again. For more information about changing DEP
settings, click Related Topics.





It's DEP, and i don't know a dem thing about DEP, i know it calls DEP
It's something with execution files and functioning(read
recognizing of viruses)on the computer.

For newbies in protection and repairing system i find this page ok,
interesting,
http://www.infopackets.com/channels/...nic_review.htm



Bye!







  #22  
Old June 4th 08, 07:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default XPAntivirus question

You've not quite got that right.

You should only use one anti-virus programme. You should have at least
one anti-spyware programme. You may have additional anti-spyware
programmes to support your main anti-spyware protection. In my view the
main anti-spyware programme needs to provide real time protection.

The reason for only one anti-virus is to avoid conflicts, which can
arise if two are installed. Having more than one anti-spyware programme
is to improve malware detection in the event that there is suspicious
behavour.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Laughingstar~* wrote:
Ok... I knew it wasn't - sorry for the goof up - but I have always
been told not to use 2 malware programs, and not 2 AVs ...

Thank you.
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Spybot S & D is not an anti-virus. I have Ad-Aware as well but I
think Spybot does a better job.


~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Laughingstar~* wrote:
I used to use it, but went to Ad Aware -- what's the difference?
Also, isn't it useless to use 2 AVs -- I have Avast ...

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Spybot S & D is a usefull tool to have to back up an anti-virus.
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Laughingstar~* wrote:
TY -
wrote in message
...

Top posting - easier
"Laughingstar~*" I use Avast because it gives audio and visual
warning , and it`s free . I used to use AVG but it wouldn`t
update properly . However , Avast updates *usually* daily but I
believe it can only be run manually .
I also use Cookiewall which lets me know about new cookies ; to
keep , temporarily , or delete .
Jim





On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:34:48 -0500, "Laughingstar~*"
wrote:

thank you - I have to use a Screen Reader (Dragon) so I
sometimes miss things unless I enlarge my window...

I did run it, and had only 23 "low-level" threat cookies ...
sheesh.... I couldn't remove them w/o buying the program so I
did my monthly
SEARCH and
entered ' cookies ' and up popped 61 which are now all gone (per
usual). Interesting, though, last week I 'found' a new folder in
My Computer - "File
Sharing" - I couldn't delete it, so ran Avast, and also Ad
Aware, check to be sure my MS stuff was ON, etc. and also ran
Trend Micro... its gone ... Brings up a question? Should we run
AVAST manually, daily??? I
somehow thought it didn't need to be run daily, manually -- used
to have AVG which ran itself obviously. AVAST isn't so obvious,
if ... thank you everyone --
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Did you scroll down the page in the link to see the information
provided about your problem?

If you had clicked on Home you would have found this!

Bleeping Computer is a community devoted to providing free
original content, consisting of computer help and tutorials, in
such a way that the
beginning computer user can understand. Getting started using
our community is extremely easy! Just follow these easy steps
below to start receiving the computer help you need:

Step 1: Create an account by clicking here. It's completely
free with no hidden strings attached.

Step 2: If you are having a computer problem and need some
computer help,
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you can quickly post a question by clicking on the New Topic
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How-To or tutorial on a topic that you need help with, you can
visit our Tutorial Section. Once you are there, just browse
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Step 4: If your computer is running slow and you can not figure
out why then you should visit our Startup Programs Database.
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Once again, welcome and enjoy your stay!

Of course someone else could be having a laugh at your expense
and put you
in touch with the CIA G


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Laughingstar~* wrote:
Who are these people, please?

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:41:49 -0500, "Laughingstar~*"
wrote:

This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full
scan (with updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and
AdAware...nothing's showing up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash
open then close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible
to get around Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising
this program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my
browser, and a download window--which I did not respond to,
instead, I shut down, and then ran everything. It's not in
the Control Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's
when rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic
Updates, with Notify Me so I can select what to download
(usually all). How can I tell if that Trojan is on my
computer? Thank you

Hi ,take a look here ,
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic111715.html



  #23  
Old June 4th 08, 09:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
No_Name
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 288
Default XPAntivirus question


Use *one* firewall only ( providing it checks *in* and *out* ); you
can use more than one antivirus , installed , * providing * they are
not running at the same time .
Jim




On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:21:05 -0500, "Laughingstar~*"
wrote:

As 'they' say - check Google first ... Sorry - but thank you, too ...

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan (with
updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and AdAware...nothing's
showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open then
close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get around
Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser, and
a download window--which I did not respond to, instead, I shut
down, and then ran everything. It's not in the Control
Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates, with
Notify Me so I can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you


What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a program?Use
the first five steps below to try and find out if your computer is
under attack. If it is not under attack, the remaining sections
below show you how to continue using the program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might
also prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run
antivirus software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates
for Windows (for more information, see Related Topics). In Microsoft
Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center provides a
one-stop place to check these essentials. You might need to log on
as a computer administrator to complete some of these steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2 but
you can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You can
also get the latest updates for your computer by going to the
Windows Update Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates when
you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the
following: If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the
instructions provided for removing it safely. Do not change your DEP
settings. If no threats are detected, and if you are using the
recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this case,
the program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and you
should see if a DEP-compatible version of the program is available.
What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a
network) and a network administrator manages security essentials for
you, these settings are hidden. To view or change security settings,
you must contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for using
the Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer
administrator, you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the
Security Center. This procedure requires you to restart your
computer, so save your work before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties dialog,
on the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and then
double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your antivirus
software did not detect a threat, your computer is probably not under
attack. In this case, the program that DEP closed might not run
correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a DEP-compatible version
of the program is available, visit the software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the
publisher has not released an updated version of the program, you
can turn off DEP for the program that was closed. You will be able
to use the program but it might be vulnerable to an attack that
could spread to your other programs and files. If you choose to turn
off DEP for a program, it's a good idea to check frequently for an
updated version of the program and, after you update it, to turn on
DEP again. For more information about changing DEP settings, click
Related Topics.




  #24  
Old June 4th 08, 10:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
No_Name
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 288
Default FOr newbies in system security!


Don`t worry , it`s a world-wide open "system" .
Jim


On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:29:16 -0500, "Laughingstar~*"
wrote:

Please excuse me for mistakenly chiming in on this topic - I didn't
differentiate the Subject ...

"Laughingstar~*" wrote in message
...
I, personally, would never "touch" my Registry - in fact, or via a
program ... that's for the experts IMHO ... can't you just 'see' a blind
person trying to listen to the entries and "fix" them!!!??

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Registry Mechanic is not something to be recommended:
http://aumha.net:80/viewtopic.php?t=28099

Once you have used a registry cleaner there is no way to know whether it
has damaged the registry.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Majki Majk wrote:
Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan (with
updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and AdAware...nothing's
showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open then
close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get around
Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser,
and a download window--which I did not respond to, instead, I shut
down, and then ran everything. It's not in the Control
Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates, with
Notify Me so I can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you

What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a
program?Use the first five steps below to try and find out if your
computer is under attack. If it is not under attack, the remaining
sections below show you how to continue using the program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might
also prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run
antivirus software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates
for Windows (for more information, see Related Topics). In
Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center
provides a one-stop place to check these essentials. You might need
to log on as a computer administrator to complete some of these
steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2
but you can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You can
also get the latest updates for your computer by going to the
Windows Update Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates
when you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the
following: If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the
instructions provided for removing it safely. Do not change your
DEP settings.
If no threats are detected, and if you are using the recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this case,
the program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and you
should see if a DEP-compatible version of the program is available.
What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a
network) and a network administrator manages security essentials
for you, these settings are hidden. To view or change security
settings, you must contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for
using the Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer
administrator, you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the
Security Center. This procedure requires you to restart your
computer, so save your work before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties dialog,
on the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your
antivirus software did not detect a threat, your computer is
probably not under attack. In this case, the program that DEP
closed might not run correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a
DEP-compatible version of the program is available, visit the
software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the
publisher has not released an updated version of the program, you
can turn off DEP for the program that was closed. You will be able
to use the program but it might be vulnerable to an attack that
could spread to your other programs and files. If you choose to
turn off DEP for a program, it's a good idea to check frequently
for an updated version of the program and, after you update it, to
turn on DEP again. For more information about changing DEP
settings, click Related Topics.





It's DEP, and i don't know a dem thing about DEP, i know it calls DEP
It's something with execution files and functioning(read
recognizing of viruses)on the computer.

For newbies in protection and repairing system i find this page ok,
interesting,
http://www.infopackets.com/channels/...nic_review.htm



Bye!





  #25  
Old June 4th 08, 02:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default XPAntivirus question

Jim

You can have two firewalls -one software and one hardware i.e built into
the router. Arguably a second firewall is unnecessary but it creates no
problems for me.

The Windows Firewall, which only checks incoming traffic, is perfectly
adequate for a home computer, providing sound security arrangements are
in place. A third party firewall may prevent unauthorised outgoing
traffic but there should be none where the security arrangements are
comprehensive. A third party firewall can create more problems than they
prevent. Instance the problems regularly being reported implicating Zone
Alarm, a market leader.

Where you have networked computers in a commercial environment then you
may find it desirable to take a different view regarding monitoring
outging traffic.

What you say about anti-virus software is true but it can be difficult
to be certain that the "lead" anti-virus is totally "switched " off. If
you have good security arrangements and take sensible precautions, when
handling attachments with incoming mail and browsing the internet etc.,
then there should be no need for a second anti-virus programme.

My comments are based on my experience as a user and not as an expert in
security.


~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
wrote:
Use *one* firewall only ( providing it checks *in* and *out* ); you
can use more than one antivirus , installed , * providing * they are
not running at the same time .
Jim




On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:21:05 -0500, "Laughingstar~*"
wrote:

As 'they' say - check Google first ... Sorry - but thank you, too ...

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Laughingstar~* wrote:
Whoa! All's in place but what the heck is DAP????


"Majki Majk" wrote in message
...
Laughingstar~* wrote:
This may be on my computer; however, I've run AVAST full scan
(with updated
downloads), and Trend Micros online scan - and
AdAware...nothing's showing
up.

I cannot keep my links open in my IE browser, they flash open
then close, even in CNET.com ... It's been impossible to get
around Yahoo, much less get
out of it.

A pop-up (which I have shut off!) flashed up advertising this
program (XP Antivirus) warning me of a problem with my browser,
and a download window--which I did not respond to, instead, I
shut down, and then ran everything. It's not in the Control
Panel/Install-Uninstall Programs, nor on
Device Manager.

I have XP Pro, all updates, and SP 3 (end of April)--that's when
rumbles began! Windows Defender is ON, and Automatic Updates,
with Notify Me so I can select what to download (usually all).

How can I tell if that Trojan is on my computer?

Thank you


What should I do when Data Execution Prevention closes a
program?Use the first five steps below to try and find out if
your computer is under attack. If it is not under attack, the
remaining sections below show you how to continue using the
program.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your
computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might
also prevent you from completing this procedure.

Check your security essentials
The three best ways to help protect your computer are to run
antivirus software, turn on a firewall, and get the latest updates
for Windows (for more information, see Related Topics). In
Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the Security Center
provides a one-stop place to check these essentials. You might
need to log on as a computer administrator to complete some of
these steps.

To open the Security Center, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click Security Center.
Make sure you have a firewall and that it is turned on. (Windows
Firewall is turned on by default when you install Windows XP SP2
but you can install and run any firewall that you choose.)
If you have not already done so, turn on Automatic Updates. You
can also get the latest updates for your computer by going to the
Windows Update Web site(http://www.microsoft.com/).
Make sure your antivirus software is up to date. (Most publishers
provide updates automatically or remind you to check for updates
when you start the program.)
Scan for viruses and other security threats and do one of the
following: If your antivirus software detects a threat, follow the
instructions provided for removing it safely. Do not change your
DEP settings. If no threats are detected, and if you are using the
recommended
security settings, your computer is probably secured. In this
case, the program might not run correctly with DEP turned on and
you should see if a DEP-compatible version of the program is
available. What if I can't see the Security Center settings?

If your computer is part of a domain (a group of computers in a
network) and a network administrator manages security essentials
for you, these settings are hidden. To view or change security
settings, you must contact your network administrator.

However, if the network administrator did not set a policy for
using the Security Center, and if you are logged on as a computer
administrator, you can use the Group Policy Wizard to turn on the
Security Center. This procedure requires you to restart your
computer, so save your work before you begin.

To turn on Security Center
Click Start and click Run. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc.
In the Group Policy dialog box, under Computer Configuration,
double-click Administrative Templates.
Double-click Windows Components and then click Security Center.
In the Security Center pane, double-click Turn on Security Center
(Domain PCs only).
On the Turn on Security Center (Domain PCs only) Properties
dialog, on the Setting tab, select Enabled and click OK.
Restart your computer.
To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click System.
Check for an updated version of the program
If you are using the recommended security settings and your
antivirus software did not detect a threat, your computer is
probably not under attack. In this case, the program that DEP
closed might not run correctly when DEP is turned on. To see if a
DEP-compatible version of the program is available, visit the
software publisher's Web site.

Decide if it's safe to change your DEP settings
If you are using the recommended security settings and if the
publisher has not released an updated version of the program, you
can turn off DEP for the program that was closed. You will be able
to use the program but it might be vulnerable to an attack that
could spread to your other programs and files. If you choose to
turn off DEP for a program, it's a good idea to check frequently
for an updated version of the program and, after you update it,
to turn on DEP again. For more information about changing DEP
settings, click Related Topics.



 




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