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  #16  
Old May 18th 09, 03:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Bill Bradshaw
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Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

Do you have a bootable CD you can try? At least you might be able to
see if it will boot from a CD. Does the external USB case have a power
brick? As people have stated the harddrive may be drawing to much
power. As somebody whom is going through the process of reloading WinXP
Pro and programs because he could not get corrupted video drivers
straightened up I can understand why you do not want to reformat and
reload. And maybe the power requirements of the new video card is
stressing the computer's PSU.
--
Bill

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it
for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought
a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5
or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with
errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or
even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed
out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the
hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to
anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the
USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each
time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible?
I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I
don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich



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  #17  
Old May 18th 09, 03:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Bill Bradshaw
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Posts: 282
Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

Do you have a bootable CD you can try? At least you might be able to
see if it will boot from a CD. Does the external USB case have a power
brick? As people have stated the harddrive may be drawing to much
power. As somebody whom is going through the process of reloading WinXP
Pro and programs because he could not get corrupted video drivers
straightened up I can understand why you do not want to reformat and
reload. And maybe the power requirements of the new video card is
stressing the computer's PSU.
--
Bill

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska.

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it
for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought
a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5
or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with
errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or
even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed
out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the
hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to
anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the
USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each
time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible?
I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I
don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich



  #18  
Old May 18th 09, 09:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
M Skabialka
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Posts: 156
Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

It turns out this drive causes any Windows XP or 2000 computer to crash. I
tried it as a secondary/slave drive on several desktops and on the USB
enclosure on laptops and they all instantly crashed when they detected the
USB drive, or BSOD if it was installed. I value my data on my Vista machine
too much to try that.
I downloaded the Western Digital diagnostics onto a bootable CD, installed
only the suspect drive in a computer, and it ran and passed with an error
code of 0000, which means no errors!
My next effort to recover the data on the drive was to create a set of WinXP
bootup floppies and was able to start a chkdsk /f before I left, which
should be complete when I get back.
Meanwhile the computer which developed the problem now has a new hard drive
and Windows XP, but it did on one occasion right after install have the same
BSOD as before with the ntfs.sys error but then it rebooted OK, and seems to
have no problems now.

To answer some other questions:
When I tried to do a repair with the XP CD as soon as I chose R for repair,
it crashed BSOD.
The USB external case has separate power.
The drive crashed the original PC with only the drive and nothing else,
on-board LAN, etc, no other drives or cards, so it can't be power issues.
Other USB devices do not crash the PC with the new drive.
The external drive bay works on the other machines, unless it has the
suspect drive in it, so that rules the bay out.
I haven't tried the Linux boot CD.
The new AGP card is working on the new drive.
There should not have been any malware on the drive as antivirus was up to
date and just finished the latest Windows and Office updates.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for
his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new
AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year
old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about
ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the
onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory,
CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put
it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which
promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a
couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message
about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I
am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want
it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich



  #19  
Old May 18th 09, 09:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
M Skabialka
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Posts: 156
Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

It turns out this drive causes any Windows XP or 2000 computer to crash. I
tried it as a secondary/slave drive on several desktops and on the USB
enclosure on laptops and they all instantly crashed when they detected the
USB drive, or BSOD if it was installed. I value my data on my Vista machine
too much to try that.
I downloaded the Western Digital diagnostics onto a bootable CD, installed
only the suspect drive in a computer, and it ran and passed with an error
code of 0000, which means no errors!
My next effort to recover the data on the drive was to create a set of WinXP
bootup floppies and was able to start a chkdsk /f before I left, which
should be complete when I get back.
Meanwhile the computer which developed the problem now has a new hard drive
and Windows XP, but it did on one occasion right after install have the same
BSOD as before with the ntfs.sys error but then it rebooted OK, and seems to
have no problems now.

To answer some other questions:
When I tried to do a repair with the XP CD as soon as I chose R for repair,
it crashed BSOD.
The USB external case has separate power.
The drive crashed the original PC with only the drive and nothing else,
on-board LAN, etc, no other drives or cards, so it can't be power issues.
Other USB devices do not crash the PC with the new drive.
The external drive bay works on the other machines, unless it has the
suspect drive in it, so that rules the bay out.
I haven't tried the Linux boot CD.
The new AGP card is working on the new drive.
There should not have been any malware on the drive as antivirus was up to
date and just finished the latest Windows and Office updates.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for
his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new
AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year
old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about
ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the
onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory,
CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put
it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which
promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a
couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message
about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I
am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want
it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich



  #20  
Old May 19th 09, 01:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
M Skabialka
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Posts: 156
Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

The chkdsk was run on the wrong disk - my friend was trying something else!
So I put the bad disk back in the machine and booted with the 6 XP boot
floppies to run the chkdsk. It crashed as soon as I chose R for repair. I
ran the extensive Western Digital diagnostics from a floppy and it reported
no errors. After trying every possible way to get to read this disk I have
given up - it is still under warranty and I have an RMA to return it. The
data is history.
Unless someone knows a good piece of recovery software that won't crash the
computer as soon as it detects the drive... so far only the Western Digital
software hasn't crashed.
Mich

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
It turns out this drive causes any Windows XP or 2000 computer to crash.
I tried it as a secondary/slave drive on several desktops and on the USB
enclosure on laptops and they all instantly crashed when they detected the
USB drive, or BSOD if it was installed. I value my data on my Vista
machine too much to try that.
I downloaded the Western Digital diagnostics onto a bootable CD, installed
only the suspect drive in a computer, and it ran and passed with an error
code of 0000, which means no errors!
My next effort to recover the data on the drive was to create a set of
WinXP bootup floppies and was able to start a chkdsk /f before I left,
which should be complete when I get back.
Meanwhile the computer which developed the problem now has a new hard
drive and Windows XP, but it did on one occasion right after install have
the same BSOD as before with the ntfs.sys error but then it rebooted OK,
and seems to have no problems now.

To answer some other questions:
When I tried to do a repair with the XP CD as soon as I chose R for
repair, it crashed BSOD.
The USB external case has separate power.
The drive crashed the original PC with only the drive and nothing else,
on-board LAN, etc, no other drives or cards, so it can't be power issues.
Other USB devices do not crash the PC with the new drive.
The external drive bay works on the other machines, unless it has the
suspect drive in it, so that rules the bay out.
I haven't tried the Linux boot CD.
The new AGP card is working on the new drive.
There should not have been any malware on the drive as antivirus was up to
date and just finished the latest Windows and Office updates.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for
his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new
AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year
old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about
ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the
onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory,
CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and
put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine
which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried
it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS
message about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I
am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't
want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich





  #21  
Old May 19th 09, 01:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
M Skabialka
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Posts: 156
Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

The chkdsk was run on the wrong disk - my friend was trying something else!
So I put the bad disk back in the machine and booted with the 6 XP boot
floppies to run the chkdsk. It crashed as soon as I chose R for repair. I
ran the extensive Western Digital diagnostics from a floppy and it reported
no errors. After trying every possible way to get to read this disk I have
given up - it is still under warranty and I have an RMA to return it. The
data is history.
Unless someone knows a good piece of recovery software that won't crash the
computer as soon as it detects the drive... so far only the Western Digital
software hasn't crashed.
Mich

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
It turns out this drive causes any Windows XP or 2000 computer to crash.
I tried it as a secondary/slave drive on several desktops and on the USB
enclosure on laptops and they all instantly crashed when they detected the
USB drive, or BSOD if it was installed. I value my data on my Vista
machine too much to try that.
I downloaded the Western Digital diagnostics onto a bootable CD, installed
only the suspect drive in a computer, and it ran and passed with an error
code of 0000, which means no errors!
My next effort to recover the data on the drive was to create a set of
WinXP bootup floppies and was able to start a chkdsk /f before I left,
which should be complete when I get back.
Meanwhile the computer which developed the problem now has a new hard
drive and Windows XP, but it did on one occasion right after install have
the same BSOD as before with the ntfs.sys error but then it rebooted OK,
and seems to have no problems now.

To answer some other questions:
When I tried to do a repair with the XP CD as soon as I chose R for
repair, it crashed BSOD.
The USB external case has separate power.
The drive crashed the original PC with only the drive and nothing else,
on-board LAN, etc, no other drives or cards, so it can't be power issues.
Other USB devices do not crash the PC with the new drive.
The external drive bay works on the other machines, unless it has the
suspect drive in it, so that rules the bay out.
I haven't tried the Linux boot CD.
The new AGP card is working on the new drive.
There should not have been any malware on the drive as antivirus was up to
date and just finished the latest Windows and Office updates.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for
his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new
AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year
old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about
ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the
onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory,
CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and
put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine
which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried
it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS
message about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I
am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't
want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich





  #22  
Old May 19th 09, 07:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Michael W. Ryder
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Posts: 265
Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

M Skabialka wrote:
The chkdsk was run on the wrong disk - my friend was trying something else!
So I put the bad disk back in the machine and booted with the 6 XP boot
floppies to run the chkdsk. It crashed as soon as I chose R for repair. I
ran the extensive Western Digital diagnostics from a floppy and it reported
no errors. After trying every possible way to get to read this disk I have
given up - it is still under warranty and I have an RMA to return it. The
data is history.
Unless someone knows a good piece of recovery software that won't crash the
computer as soon as it detects the drive... so far only the Western Digital
software hasn't crashed.
Mich


I don't know how valuable your data is but you might want to look at
Spinrite. The program has been around since the days of DOS and runs
from a floppy. I last used it to repair a Windows XP boot drive that
was crashing much like yours so that I could use Ghost to copy the
drive. In a couple of hours the drive worked fine and I was able to
make the copy. It won't work if the drive is truly dead, but when it
starts it runs extensive diagnostics on the drive and will tell you if
it will be able to run on the drive.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
It turns out this drive causes any Windows XP or 2000 computer to crash.
I tried it as a secondary/slave drive on several desktops and on the USB
enclosure on laptops and they all instantly crashed when they detected the
USB drive, or BSOD if it was installed. I value my data on my Vista
machine too much to try that.
I downloaded the Western Digital diagnostics onto a bootable CD, installed
only the suspect drive in a computer, and it ran and passed with an error
code of 0000, which means no errors!
My next effort to recover the data on the drive was to create a set of
WinXP bootup floppies and was able to start a chkdsk /f before I left,
which should be complete when I get back.
Meanwhile the computer which developed the problem now has a new hard
drive and Windows XP, but it did on one occasion right after install have
the same BSOD as before with the ntfs.sys error but then it rebooted OK,
and seems to have no problems now.

To answer some other questions:
When I tried to do a repair with the XP CD as soon as I chose R for
repair, it crashed BSOD.
The USB external case has separate power.
The drive crashed the original PC with only the drive and nothing else,
on-board LAN, etc, no other drives or cards, so it can't be power issues.
Other USB devices do not crash the PC with the new drive.
The external drive bay works on the other machines, unless it has the
suspect drive in it, so that rules the bay out.
I haven't tried the Linux boot CD.
The new AGP card is working on the new drive.
There should not have been any malware on the drive as antivirus was up to
date and just finished the latest Windows and Office updates.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for
his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new
AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year
old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about
ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the
onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory,
CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and
put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine
which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried
it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS
message about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I
am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't
want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich




  #23  
Old May 19th 09, 07:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Michael W. Ryder
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Posts: 265
Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

M Skabialka wrote:
The chkdsk was run on the wrong disk - my friend was trying something else!
So I put the bad disk back in the machine and booted with the 6 XP boot
floppies to run the chkdsk. It crashed as soon as I chose R for repair. I
ran the extensive Western Digital diagnostics from a floppy and it reported
no errors. After trying every possible way to get to read this disk I have
given up - it is still under warranty and I have an RMA to return it. The
data is history.
Unless someone knows a good piece of recovery software that won't crash the
computer as soon as it detects the drive... so far only the Western Digital
software hasn't crashed.
Mich


I don't know how valuable your data is but you might want to look at
Spinrite. The program has been around since the days of DOS and runs
from a floppy. I last used it to repair a Windows XP boot drive that
was crashing much like yours so that I could use Ghost to copy the
drive. In a couple of hours the drive worked fine and I was able to
make the copy. It won't work if the drive is truly dead, but when it
starts it runs extensive diagnostics on the drive and will tell you if
it will be able to run on the drive.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
It turns out this drive causes any Windows XP or 2000 computer to crash.
I tried it as a secondary/slave drive on several desktops and on the USB
enclosure on laptops and they all instantly crashed when they detected the
USB drive, or BSOD if it was installed. I value my data on my Vista
machine too much to try that.
I downloaded the Western Digital diagnostics onto a bootable CD, installed
only the suspect drive in a computer, and it ran and passed with an error
code of 0000, which means no errors!
My next effort to recover the data on the drive was to create a set of
WinXP bootup floppies and was able to start a chkdsk /f before I left,
which should be complete when I get back.
Meanwhile the computer which developed the problem now has a new hard
drive and Windows XP, but it did on one occasion right after install have
the same BSOD as before with the ntfs.sys error but then it rebooted OK,
and seems to have no problems now.

To answer some other questions:
When I tried to do a repair with the XP CD as soon as I chose R for
repair, it crashed BSOD.
The USB external case has separate power.
The drive crashed the original PC with only the drive and nothing else,
on-board LAN, etc, no other drives or cards, so it can't be power issues.
Other USB devices do not crash the PC with the new drive.
The external drive bay works on the other machines, unless it has the
suspect drive in it, so that rules the bay out.
I haven't tried the Linux boot CD.
The new AGP card is working on the new drive.
There should not have been any malware on the drive as antivirus was up to
date and just finished the latest Windows and Office updates.


"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for
his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new
AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year
old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about
ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the
onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory,
CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and
put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine
which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried
it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS
message about possible driver problems.
Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to
getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I
am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't
want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date.
Mich




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Old June 15th 09, 07:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Old June 15th 09, 07:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default New AGP card crashed computer - now what?

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age. They in fact make the modern age what it is. Without computers
we would not have access to the knowledge and comforts that we now
take for granted.{{http://farm3.static.flickr.com/
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