how to replace my old PC at work ?

At work, I am still using the same old PC. It is already 8 years old.
It has a CRT monitor. At the same time, almost everyone using more
modern PCs with LCD screens. The internal policy (formal or informal,
I do not know) is that you get your PC replaced every 5 years.
Finally, I decided enough was enough. My PC developed some glitches,
like inability to display correctly some modern programs like MS Word
and Internet Explorer.

A few days ago, I happened to have a chat with the IT manager. He told
me that there would be no new PCs purchased next financial year
because of the budget cuts. He informally offered me to take a PC
which he bought for the HR manager, but who discarded it after a few
months of use. I rejected, because I felt entitled to a brand new PC..

I recall that when I was hired into this job almost 2 years ago, my
new boss told me that they would get me a new PC. It never happened. I
never pushed for a new PC, because this would mean that they could get
ideas for me to do computational modelling (which I hate). And my old
PC was OK for me.

But I think my PC gets too old. I am thinking to press my supervisor
for a new PC (maybe it will come out of the departmental budget). But
I suspect that he may tell me to take the 3 year-old PC of my
colleague who recently left. I do not want to take it, because I feel
entitled to a new PC just like everybody. Besides, the PC is filthy --
my former colleague used to have lunches over the keyboard. And I hate
him.

What should I tell to my boss, so that he would not make me to take
the PC of my colleague ? I tell him that the PC is filthy, but he will
counteract it with telling me to wash it (and get a new keyboard). I
may tell him that this PC is only incrementally better, and will
probably work correctly with MS Word, however there might be some
future applications with which it might not work. But I am afraid that
he will counteract it with the suggestion that the PC should be
al'right for now, and if I encounter the problems later, then they may
hopefully get me another PC then.

Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
At work, I am still using the same old PC. It is already 8 years old.
It has a CRT monitor. At the same time, almost everyone using more
modern PCs with LCD screens. The internal policy (formal or informal,
I do not know) is that you get your PC replaced every 5 years.
Finally, I decided enough was enough. My PC developed some glitches,
like inability to display correctly some modern programs like MS Word
and Internet Explorer.

A few days ago, I happened to have a chat with the IT manager. He told
me that there would be no new PCs purchased next financial year
because of the budget cuts. He informally offered me to take a PC
which he bought for the HR manager, but who discarded it after a few
months of use. I rejected, because I felt entitled to a brand new PC..

I recall that when I was hired into this job almost 2 years ago, my
new boss told me that they would get me a new PC. It never happened. I
never pushed for a new PC, because this would mean that they could get
ideas for me to do computational modelling (which I hate). And my old
PC was OK for me.

But I think my PC gets too old. I am thinking to press my supervisor
for a new PC (maybe it will come out of the departmental budget). But
I suspect that he may tell me to take the 3 year-old PC of my
colleague who recently left. I do not want to take it, because I feel
entitled to a new PC just like everybody. Besides, the PC is filthy --
my former colleague used to have lunches over the keyboard. And I hate
him.

What should I tell to my boss, so that he would not make me to take
the PC of my colleague ? I tell him that the PC is filthy, but he will
counteract it with telling me to wash it (and get a new keyboard). I
may tell him that this PC is only incrementally better, and will
probably work correctly with MS Word, however there might be some
future applications with which it might not work. But I am afraid that
he will counteract it with the suggestion that the PC should be
al'right for now, and if I encounter the problems later, then they may
hopefully get me another PC then.


Sounds like you passed on the new HR manager's PC that might have been
the better deal. Hind sight and all it may have been better than Mr.
Pig's.

I'd quietly look around, and not for a new PC either.

Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
At work, I am still using the same old PC. It is already 8 years old.
It has a CRT monitor. At the same time, almost everyone using more
modern PCs with LCD screens. The internal policy (formal or informal,
I do not know) is that you get your PC replaced every 5 years.
Finally, I decided enough was enough. My PC developed some glitches,
like inability to display correctly some modern programs like MS Word
and Internet Explorer.

A few days ago, I happened to have a chat with the IT manager. He told
me that there would be no new PCs purchased next financial year
because of the budget cuts. He informally offered me to take a PC
which he bought for the HR manager, but who discarded it after a few
months of use. I rejected, because I felt entitled to a brand new PC..

I recall that when I was hired into this job almost 2 years ago, my
new boss told me that they would get me a new PC. It never happened. I
never pushed for a new PC, because this would mean that they could get
ideas for me to do computational modelling (which I hate). And my old
PC was OK for me.

But I think my PC gets too old. I am thinking to press my supervisor
for a new PC (maybe it will come out of the departmental budget). But
I suspect that he may tell me to take the 3 year-old PC of my
colleague who recently left. I do not want to take it, because I feel
entitled to a new PC just like everybody. Besides, the PC is filthy --
my former colleague used to have lunches over the keyboard. And I hate
him.

What should I tell to my boss, so that he would not make me to take
the PC of my colleague ? I tell him that the PC is filthy, but he will
counteract it with telling me to wash it (and get a new keyboard). I
may tell him that this PC is only incrementally better, and will
probably work correctly with MS Word, however there might be some
future applications with which it might not work. But I am afraid that
he will counteract it with the suggestion that the PC should be
al'right for now, and if I encounter the problems later, then they may
hopefully get me another PC then.



Tell your boss that you're far too immature and self-centered to work
for him any more and that you're now "entitled" to now be the president
of the company. Then order the IT manager to give you a new computer.


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On Sat, 31 May 2008 09:07:52 -0600, Bruce Chambers
wrote:

Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
At work, I am still using the same old PC. It is already 8 years old.
It has a CRT monitor. At the same time, almost everyone using more
modern PCs with LCD screens. The internal policy (formal or informal,
I do not know) is that you get your PC replaced every 5 years.
Finally, I decided enough was enough. My PC developed some glitches,
like inability to display correctly some modern programs like MS Word
and Internet Explorer.

A few days ago, I happened to have a chat with the IT manager. He told
me that there would be no new PCs purchased next financial year
because of the budget cuts. He informally offered me to take a PC
which he bought for the HR manager, but who discarded it after a few
months of use. I rejected, because I felt entitled to a brand new PC..

I recall that when I was hired into this job almost 2 years ago, my
new boss told me that they would get me a new PC. It never happened. I
never pushed for a new PC, because this would mean that they could get
ideas for me to do computational modelling (which I hate). And my old
PC was OK for me.

But I think my PC gets too old. I am thinking to press my supervisor
for a new PC (maybe it will come out of the departmental budget). But
I suspect that he may tell me to take the 3 year-old PC of my
colleague who recently left. I do not want to take it, because I feel
entitled to a new PC just like everybody. Besides, the PC is filthy --
my former colleague used to have lunches over the keyboard. And I hate
him.

What should I tell to my boss, so that he would not make me to take
the PC of my colleague ? I tell him that the PC is filthy, but he will
counteract it with telling me to wash it (and get a new keyboard). I
may tell him that this PC is only incrementally better, and will
probably work correctly with MS Word, however there might be some
future applications with which it might not work. But I am afraid that
he will counteract it with the suggestion that the PC should be
al'right for now, and if I encounter the problems later, then they may
hopefully get me another PC then.



Tell your boss that you're far too immature and self-centered to work
for him any more and that you're now "entitled" to now be the president
of the company. Then order the IT manager to give you a new computer.


LOL!

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Tell them if you don't get a new computer you are quitting.
"Beladi Nasrallah" wrote in message
...
At work, I am still using the same old PC. It is already 8 years old.
It has a CRT monitor. At the same time, almost everyone using more
modern PCs with LCD screens. The internal policy (formal or informal,
I do not know) is that you get your PC replaced every 5 years.
Finally, I decided enough was enough. My PC developed some glitches,
like inability to display correctly some modern programs like MS Word
and Internet Explorer.

A few days ago, I happened to have a chat with the IT manager. He told
me that there would be no new PCs purchased next financial year
because of the budget cuts. He informally offered me to take a PC
which he bought for the HR manager, but who discarded it after a few
months of use. I rejected, because I felt entitled to a brand new PC..

I recall that when I was hired into this job almost 2 years ago, my
new boss told me that they would get me a new PC. It never happened. I
never pushed for a new PC, because this would mean that they could get
ideas for me to do computational modelling (which I hate). And my old
PC was OK for me.

But I think my PC gets too old. I am thinking to press my supervisor
for a new PC (maybe it will come out of the departmental budget). But
I suspect that he may tell me to take the 3 year-old PC of my
colleague who recently left. I do not want to take it, because I feel
entitled to a new PC just like everybody. Besides, the PC is filthy --
my former colleague used to have lunches over the keyboard. And I hate
him.

What should I tell to my boss, so that he would not make me to take
the PC of my colleague ? I tell him that the PC is filthy, but he will
counteract it with telling me to wash it (and get a new keyboard). I
may tell him that this PC is only incrementally better, and will
probably work correctly with MS Word, however there might be some
future applications with which it might not work. But I am afraid that
he will counteract it with the suggestion that the PC should be
al'right for now, and if I encounter the problems later, then they may
hopefully get me another PC then.

On May 31, 4:46*am, Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
At work, I am still using the same old PC. It is already 8 years old.
It has a CRT monitor. At the same time, almost everyone using more
modern PCs with LCD screens. The internal policy (formal or informal,
I do not know) is that you get your PC replaced every 5 years.
Finally, I decided enough was enough. My PC developed some glitches,
like inability to display correctly some modern programs like MS Word
and Internet Explorer.

A few days ago, I happened to have a chat with the IT manager. He told
me that there would be no new PCs purchased next financial year
because of the budget cuts. He informally offered me to take a PC
which he bought for the HR manager, but who discarded it after a few
months of use. I rejected, because I felt entitled to a brand new PC..

I recall that when I was hired into this job almost 2 years ago, my
new boss told me that they would get me a new PC. It never happened. I
never pushed for a new PC, because this would mean that they could get
ideas for me to do computational modelling (which I hate). And my old
PC was OK for me.

But I think my PC gets too old. I am thinking to press my supervisor
for a new PC (maybe it will come out of the departmental budget). But
I suspect that he may tell me to take the 3 year-old PC of my
colleague who recently left. I do not want to take it, because I feel
entitled to a new PC just like everybody. Besides, the PC is filthy --
my former colleague used to have lunches over the keyboard. And I hate
him.

What should I tell to my boss, so that he would not make me to take
the PC of my colleague ? I tell him that the PC is filthy, but he will
counteract it with telling me to wash it (and get a new keyboard). I
may tell him that this PC is only incrementally better, and will
probably work correctly with MS Word, however there might be some
future applications with which it might not work. But I am afraid that
he will counteract it with the suggestion that the PC should be
al'right for now, and if I encounter the problems later, then they may
hopefully get me another PC then.


There is FOOD in the keyboard? you can dig that out with a toothpick
if things get tight.

On Jun 1, 6:19*am, phil scott wrote:

There is FOOD in the keyboard? * you can dig that out with a toothpick
if things get tight.

Why are you all guys loughing ? I do not understand. My issue
obviously is a political issue, and I asked if my senior colleagues
had already developed a workaround for this (i.e., justifying not to
get a computer of colleague who's left).

On May 31, 11:34 pm, Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
On Jun 1, 6:19 am, phil scott wrote:

There is FOOD in the keyboard? you can dig that out with a toothpick
if things get tight.

Why are you all guys loughing ? I do not understand. My issue
obviously is a political issue, and I asked if my senior colleagues
had already developed a workaround for this (i.e., justifying not to
get a computer of colleague who's left).


And presumably all other problems you had have been resolved ... Life
is beautiful.

On May 31, 8:34*pm, Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
On Jun 1, 6:19*am, phil scott wrote:

There is FOOD in the keyboard? * you can dig that out with a toothpick
if things get tight.

Why are you all guys loughing ? I do not understand. My issue
obviously is a political issue, and I asked if my senior colleagues
had already developed a workaround for this (i.e., justifying not to
get a computer of colleague who's left).


you are trying to win the political war by being nasty about petty
issues, and that only works in the bottom feeder environment. so that
the tactic keeps you there... at the bottom.

being petty doesnt work where it counts.

what actually works is having brains and guts or... lacking that,
absolute blood thirsty ruthlessness works but only on very signficant
issues... that works but ruins its host. Long term and across all
spectrums of life, decency works...nothing else works.

you are choosing various low roads then complaining about the
terrain.... thats funny


Phil scott

On Sat, 31 May 2008 20:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Beladi Nasrallah
wrote:

On Jun 1, 6:19*am, phil scott wrote:

There is FOOD in the keyboard? * you can dig that out with a toothpick
if things get tight.

Why are you all guys loughing ? I do not understand. My issue
obviously is a political issue, and I asked if my senior colleagues
had already developed a workaround for this (i.e., justifying not to
get a computer of colleague who's left).

microsoft.public.widowsxp.help_and_support : which helps you to get a
new computer - how ?

On Jun 1, 5:19*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2008 20:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Beladi Nasrallah

wrote:
On Jun 1, 6:19*am, phil scott wrote:

There is FOOD in the keyboard? * you can dig that out with a toothpick
if things get tight.

Why are you all guys loughing ? I do not understand. My issue
obviously is a political issue, and I asked if my senior colleagues
had already developed a workaround for this (i.e., justifying not to
get a computer of colleague who's left).

microsoft.public.widowsxp.help_and_support : which helps you to get a
new computer - how ?

I thought some of you guys might be from computer helpdesk, and you
probably had seen all the excuses the users put up; and you would be
able to tell me which excuses work and which do not.

On Sat, 31 May 2008 20:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Beladi Nasrallah
wrote:

On Jun 1, 6:19*am, phil scott wrote:

There is FOOD in the keyboard? * you can dig that out with a toothpick
if things get tight.

Why are you all guys loughing ? I do not understand.


Because you are acting like a spoiled little child, who thinks he's
*entitled* to something.

When you work in any job, you have two choices:

1. Do the job that's expected of you, and in return get what's
provided as recompense in the form of salary, benefits, working
conditions, computers, etc.

2. If you are not satisfied with what you are given in return for the
job you do, leave your job and find another one that gives you the
rewards you think you deserve.

If you are valuable to the company you work for, your employer always
knows that number 2 is a possibility, and will tend to reward you
appropriately. If not...


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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On Jun 1, 11:11 am, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:


1. Do the job that's expected of you ...


What if they expect from you to prove 2X2=5?





Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Simple---------leave.
"Old Pif" wrote in message
...
On Jun 1, 11:11 am, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:


1. Do the job that's expected of you ...


What if they expect from you to prove 2X2=5?





Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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On Jun 1, 9:19*am, Old Pif wrote:
On Jun 1, 11:11 am, "Ken Blake, MVP"

wrote:

1. Do the job that's expected of you ...

What if they expect from you to prove 2X2=5?

thats pervasively common in the engineering business,, wall to wall.
half the time they wont tell you thats the answer they want, but will
assume you are incompent if you dont come up wth that conclusion.

it seems the less competent a person is in this area the more he gets
along... if you are much above or below that mean you get chewed up,
especially if you are even slightly above it.


then 10 or 20 years later they catch up.. too late then to help ones
career. i stay out that entire loop these days. freelancing not
just engineering but whatever else pays well... some industrial
controls and skid mfgr lately... it is most likely to get quite a
meaner shortly as the US economy faces the music...






Phil scott



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