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On Jan 10, 12:49 am, Alan Edwards wrote:
You will get a far better experience of newsgroups if you use a proper
newsreader instead of that slow and quirky web interface you are
using.
SNIP

Agent (which I use)
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php

I see that Agent requires payment: $30.

Can anyone recommend a free news reader? I use NetNewsWire on my
Macintosh and it is just superb in that is fast, intuitive, free, and
does not bombard you with adds. In fact, no adds of any sort.

Anything like out there for Windows?

Thunderbird comes to mind...

--
Roy Smith
http://roysmith1959.spaces.live.com/

"Carl" wrote in message
...
On Jan 10, 12:49 am, Alan Edwards wrote:
You will get a far better experience of newsgroups if you use a proper
newsreader instead of that slow and quirky web interface you are
using.
SNIP

Agent (which I use)
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php

I see that Agent requires payment: $30.

Can anyone recommend a free news reader? I use NetNewsWire on my
Macintosh and it is just superb in that is fast, intuitive, free, and
does not bombard you with adds. In fact, no adds of any sort.

Anything like out there for Windows?

Thunderbird comes to mind...

--
Roy Smith
http://roysmith1959.spaces.live.com/

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post G. I
can think of other adverts which you might find even more provocative
but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not presently
doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password, which
I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method there
is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as Outlook
Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail, which comes
with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post G. I
can think of other adverts which you might find even more provocative
but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not presently
doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password, which
I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method there
is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as Outlook
Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail, which comes
with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post G. I
can think of other adverts which you might find even more provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the owners
of the web sites are doing something that's basically dishonest, and
the messages posted there are often next to impossible to understand.
If they are adding advertisements, then that's a third reason. I may
make an error occasionally, but I try not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not presently
doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password, which
I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method there
is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as Outlook
Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail, which comes
with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post G. I
can think of other adverts which you might find even more provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the owners
of the web sites are doing something that's basically dishonest, and
the messages posted there are often next to impossible to understand.
If they are adding advertisements, then that's a third reason. I may
make an error occasionally, but I try not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not presently
doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password, which
I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method there
is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as Outlook
Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail, which comes
with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it a
feature in Forte Agent?

In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post
G. I can think of other adverts which you might find even more
provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the owners
of the web sites are doing something that's basically dishonest, and
the messages posted there are often next to impossible to understand.
If they are adding advertisements, then that's a third reason. I may
make an error occasionally, but I try not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not
presently doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method
there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as
Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail,
which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it a
feature in Forte Agent?

In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post
G. I can think of other adverts which you might find even more
provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the owners
of the web sites are doing something that's basically dishonest, and
the messages posted there are often next to impossible to understand.
If they are adding advertisements, then that's a third reason. I may
make an error occasionally, but I try not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not
presently doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method
there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as
Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail,
which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:39:27 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it a
feature in Forte Agent?


To see that that's how the particular message was posted?

It's in the headers. As far as I know, just about every newsreader
lets you look at the headers. In Agent, it's very easy; you just press
the "H" key.

So, when I do that for your message, I see

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512


In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.



I haven't used Outlook Express for newsgroups in quite a while, but if
I remember correctly, looking at the headers is easy there too; just
press Ctrl-F3.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post
G. I can think of other adverts which you might find even more
provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the owners
of the web sites are doing something that's basically dishonest, and
the messages posted there are often next to impossible to understand.
If they are adding advertisements, then that's a third reason. I may
make an error occasionally, but I try not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not
presently doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method
there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as
Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail,
which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:39:27 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it a
feature in Forte Agent?


To see that that's how the particular message was posted?

It's in the headers. As far as I know, just about every newsreader
lets you look at the headers. In Agent, it's very easy; you just press
the "H" key.

So, when I do that for your message, I see

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512


In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.



I haven't used Outlook Express for newsgroups in quite a while, but if
I remember correctly, looking at the headers is easy there too; just
press Ctrl-F3.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I am
just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a Registry
Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your last post
G. I can think of other adverts which you might find even more
provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the owners
of the web sites are doing something that's basically dishonest, and
the messages posted there are often next to impossible to understand.
If they are adding advertisements, then that's a third reason. I may
make an error occasionally, but I try not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend anyones'
sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are not
presently doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon
at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having such
problems is that you are using the awful web interface to read this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method
there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a newsreader, such as
Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP, or Windows Mail,
which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken

Ctrl+F3 does not work here. Alt+Enter gives Properties where you see
Name plus displayed email address.

An interesting discovery. No one in the thread posted though the forum.
The original post had this address . The
forum grabbed all messages from elsewhere. I think that this means that
your method of seeking to avoid your posts appearing in this type of
forum does not work.

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:39:27 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it
a feature in Forte Agent?


To see that that's how the particular message was posted?

It's in the headers. As far as I know, just about every newsreader
lets you look at the headers. In Agent, it's very easy; you just press
the "H" key.

So, when I do that for your message, I see

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512


In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.



I haven't used Outlook Express for newsgroups in quite a while, but if
I remember correctly, looking at the headers is easy there too; just
press Ctrl-F3.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry"
wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I
am just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a
Registry Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your
last post G. I can think of other adverts which you might find
even more provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the
owners of the web sites are doing something that's basically
dishonest, and the messages posted there are often next to
impossible to understand. If they are adding advertisements, then
that's a third reason. I may make an error occasionally, but I try
not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend
anyones' sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are
not presently doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In
icon at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why
not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having
such problems is that you are using the awful web interface to
read this newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most
error-prone method there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP,
or Windows Mail, which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

Ken

Ctrl+F3 does not work here. Alt+Enter gives Properties where you see
Name plus displayed email address.

An interesting discovery. No one in the thread posted though the forum.
The original post had this address . The
forum grabbed all messages from elsewhere. I think that this means that
your method of seeking to avoid your posts appearing in this type of
forum does not work.

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:39:27 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it
a feature in Forte Agent?


To see that that's how the particular message was posted?

It's in the headers. As far as I know, just about every newsreader
lets you look at the headers. In Agent, it's very easy; you just press
the "H" key.

So, when I do that for your message, I see

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512


In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.



I haven't used Outlook Express for newsgroups in quite a while, but if
I remember correctly, looking at the headers is easy there too; just
press Ctrl-F3.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry"
wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I
am just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a
Registry Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your
last post G. I can think of other adverts which you might find
even more provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the
owners of the web sites are doing something that's basically
dishonest, and the messages posted there are often next to
impossible to understand. If they are adding advertisements, then
that's a third reason. I may make an error occasionally, but I try
not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend
anyones' sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are
not presently doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In
icon at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why
not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having
such problems is that you are using the awful web interface to
read this newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most
error-prone method there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP,
or Windows Mail, which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:27:48 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Ctrl+F3 does not work here. Alt+Enter gives Properties where you see
Name plus displayed email address.


LOL! You made me start up my laptop, which runs XP and uses Outlook
Express as its newsreader. I verified that I was right, despite my
fear that I was relying on old mistaken memories.

Try it again. I can assure you that Ctrl-F3 will bring up a separate
small window showing the headers for the current message.


An interesting discovery. No one in the thread posted though the forum.
The original post had this address . The
forum grabbed all messages from elsewhere. I think that this means that
your method of seeking to avoid your posts appearing in this type of
forum does not work.


No, I didn't say that I was doing anything to avoid my posts appearing
on the Microsoft web site carrying newsgroup messages. My point was
simply that I try to avoid replying to messages that come from the
"leech" forums (not those that come from the Microsoft CDO web site).

And whether it's the Microsoft CDO site or the "leech" forums, I can't
do anything to stop them from including the posts I make.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:39:27 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it
a feature in Forte Agent?


To see that that's how the particular message was posted?

It's in the headers. As far as I know, just about every newsreader
lets you look at the headers. In Agent, it's very easy; you just press
the "H" key.

So, when I do that for your message, I see

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512


In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.



I haven't used Outlook Express for newsgroups in quite a while, but if
I remember correctly, looking at the headers is easy there too; just
press Ctrl-F3.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry"
wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I
am just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a
Registry Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your
last post G. I can think of other adverts which you might find
even more provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the
owners of the web sites are doing something that's basically
dishonest, and the messages posted there are often next to
impossible to understand. If they are adding advertisements, then
that's a third reason. I may make an error occasionally, but I try
not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend
anyones' sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are
not presently doing this.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In
icon at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why
not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having
such problems is that you are using the awful web interface to
read this newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most
error-prone method there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP,
or Windows Mail, which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:27:48 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Ctrl+F3 does not work here. Alt+Enter gives Properties where you see
Name plus displayed email address.


LOL! You made me start up my laptop, which runs XP and uses Outlook
Express as its newsreader. I verified that I was right, despite my
fear that I was relying on old mistaken memories.

Try it again. I can assure you that Ctrl-F3 will bring up a separate
small window showing the headers for the current message.


An interesting discovery. No one in the thread posted though the forum.
The original post had this address . The
forum grabbed all messages from elsewhere. I think that this means that
your method of seeking to avoid your posts appearing in this type of
forum does not work.


No, I didn't say that I was doing anything to avoid my posts appearing
on the Microsoft web site carrying newsgroup messages. My point was
simply that I try to avoid replying to messages that come from the
"leech" forums (not those that come from the Microsoft CDO web site).

And whether it's the Microsoft CDO site or the "leech" forums, I can't
do anything to stop them from including the posts I make.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:39:27 -0000, "Gerry" wrote:

Ken

Microsoft CDO web site. -how are you readily able to see this? Is it
a feature in Forte Agent?


To see that that's how the particular message was posted?

It's in the headers. As far as I know, just about every newsreader
lets you look at the headers. In Agent, it's very easy; you just press
the "H" key.

So, when I do that for your message, I see

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512


In Outlook Express as I presently use it takes several clicks to get
this detail.



I haven't used Outlook Express for newsgroups in quite a while, but if
I remember correctly, looking at the headers is easy there too; just
press Ctrl-F3.




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:08:09 -0000, "Gerry"
wrote:

Ken

When you reply some forums change your posts to include adverts. I
am just thinking about how you might feel about an advert for a
Registry Cleaner attached to your use of the word "web" in your
last post G. I can think of other adverts which you might find
even more provocative


Thanks, Gerry. I saw your messages about this earlier.

I'm against their attaching *any* advertisements to my messages, but
the message I replied to here was posted to the Microsoft CDO web
site.

I try to remember not to reply to any messages posted on any of the
leeching web site forums, for several reasons: I feel that the
owners of the web sites are doing something that's basically
dishonest, and the messages posted there are often next to
impossible to understand. If they are adding advertisements, then
that's a third reason. I may make an error occasionally, but I try
not to reply to them.



but this is a public newsgroup and I have no wish to offend
anyones' sensitivities. At least the Microsoft web communities are
not presently doing this.


--



Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:48:00 -0800, AliceZ
wrote:

When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In
icon at the top (as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why
not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password,
which I entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but
wonder why I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?



This isn't a forum; it's a newsgroup. The reason you're having
such problems is that you are using the awful web interface to
read this newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most
error-prone method there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP,
or Windows Mail, which comes with Vista. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

The Web Interface has been flakey and full of problems since Dec 23 last year. Read
the suggestions from Alan and others below and set up a newsreader
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"AliceZ" wrote in message
...
As far back as I can remember, I have always been able to enter these
Community Boards, with no problems. Why, now, am I having so much trouble
signing-in?
Could it because I installed IE7?

Is there any other "newsreaders" besides the MS ones? A very simple one to
use, etc.?
Thank you.


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"Leonard Grey" wrote:

This is a newsgroup, not a forum. You are using a web interface to read
a newsgroup.

Instead of frustrating yourself by trying to read a newsgroup through a
web interface, read this newsgroup and all newsgroups the proper way:
with a newsreader. Outlook Express is your newsreader in Windows XP. In
Windows Vista it's Windows Mail.

"Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader"
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

"Accessing Newsgroups With Windows Mail"
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/accessi...ndows_mail.htm

---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

AliceZ wrote:
When I tried to sign in to this forum, I didn't see a Sign In icon at the top
(as it mentions in the infomration panel). Why not?
I did click on the "New" and then I was asked for my password, which I
entered, and then was allowed to post this message.
I believe I've seen the Sign In icon at the top in the past, but wonder why
I do not see it today.
Any suggestions/solutions?
Alice