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  #1  
Old January 22nd 09, 09:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Alain Bourgeois
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Posts: 14
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

Dear all,

I have 3 pc's in a single network, in a single workgroup named MSHOME, and
one wireless router / hub:
OLDONE Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.4 wireless
BUREAU Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.2 ethernet
HANONM Win vista home sp1 192.168.1.3 ethernet

Submask is 255.255.255.0
Router IP is 192.168.1.1
PC IP's are given by router dhcp.
Netbios on tcp/ip is set to default (dhcp).

The firewalls are disabled on all computers.

All pc's can surf on the internet.
Pinging from any computer to any computer on IP address works. (including
bureau)
Pinging from any computer to any computer on computer name also works.
(including bureau)
Guest account is enabled on all computers.
Username and password are the same on all pc's.

BUT I have a LAN problem: when browsing entire network/MSHOME workgroup:
* from oldone and hanonm- I see computers oldone and hanonm, but not bureau
* from bureau: I get the following message (FRENCH):
Mshome n'est pas accessible. Vous ne disposez peut-être pas des
autotisations nécessaires pour utiliser cette ressource réseau. Contactez
l'administrateur de ce serveur pour savoir si vous disposez des
autorisations d'accès.
La liste des serveurs de groupe de travail n'est pas disponible
actuellement.

Which can be translated as:
Mshome is not accessible. You have perhaps not autotisations to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions.
The list of workgroup servers is currently unavailable.

Any hint?


Regards,
Alain


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  #2  
Old January 23rd 09, 04:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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Posts: 964
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

Hi
Check the Guest account permissions make sure it is allowed to read/write,
what ever you deem as necessary.
Make sure that all computers Firewalls are set to allow communication and
sharing.
In general
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Alain Bourgeois" wrote in message
...
Dear all,

I have 3 pc's in a single network, in a single workgroup named MSHOME, and
one wireless router / hub:
OLDONE Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.4 wireless
BUREAU Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.2 ethernet
HANONM Win vista home sp1 192.168.1.3 ethernet

Submask is 255.255.255.0
Router IP is 192.168.1.1
PC IP's are given by router dhcp.
Netbios on tcp/ip is set to default (dhcp).

The firewalls are disabled on all computers.

All pc's can surf on the internet.
Pinging from any computer to any computer on IP address works. (including
bureau)
Pinging from any computer to any computer on computer name also works.
(including bureau)
Guest account is enabled on all computers.
Username and password are the same on all pc's.

BUT I have a LAN problem: when browsing entire network/MSHOME workgroup:
* from oldone and hanonm- I see computers oldone and hanonm, but not
bureau
* from bureau: I get the following message (FRENCH):
Mshome n'est pas accessible. Vous ne disposez peut-être pas des
autotisations nécessaires pour utiliser cette ressource réseau. Contactez
l'administrateur de ce serveur pour savoir si vous disposez des
autorisations d'accès.
La liste des serveurs de groupe de travail n'est pas disponible
actuellement.

Which can be translated as:
Mshome is not accessible. You have perhaps not autotisations to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions.
The list of workgroup servers is currently unavailable.

Any hint?


Regards,
Alain



  #3  
Old January 23rd 09, 04:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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Posts: 964
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

Hi
Check the Guest account permissions make sure it is allowed to read/write,
what ever you deem as necessary.
Make sure that all computers Firewalls are set to allow communication and
sharing.
In general
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Alain Bourgeois" wrote in message
...
Dear all,

I have 3 pc's in a single network, in a single workgroup named MSHOME, and
one wireless router / hub:
OLDONE Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.4 wireless
BUREAU Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.2 ethernet
HANONM Win vista home sp1 192.168.1.3 ethernet

Submask is 255.255.255.0
Router IP is 192.168.1.1
PC IP's are given by router dhcp.
Netbios on tcp/ip is set to default (dhcp).

The firewalls are disabled on all computers.

All pc's can surf on the internet.
Pinging from any computer to any computer on IP address works. (including
bureau)
Pinging from any computer to any computer on computer name also works.
(including bureau)
Guest account is enabled on all computers.
Username and password are the same on all pc's.

BUT I have a LAN problem: when browsing entire network/MSHOME workgroup:
* from oldone and hanonm- I see computers oldone and hanonm, but not
bureau
* from bureau: I get the following message (FRENCH):
Mshome n'est pas accessible. Vous ne disposez peut-être pas des
autotisations nécessaires pour utiliser cette ressource réseau. Contactez
l'administrateur de ce serveur pour savoir si vous disposez des
autorisations d'accès.
La liste des serveurs de groupe de travail n'est pas disponible
actuellement.

Which can be translated as:
Mshome is not accessible. You have perhaps not autotisations to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions.
The list of workgroup servers is currently unavailable.

Any hint?


Regards,
Alain



  #4  
Old January 23rd 09, 06:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Alain Bourgeois
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Posts: 14
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

The problem is a network browsing only:
* ping works
* file sharing also works if \\computername\share is used!


"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote in message
...
Hi
Check the Guest account permissions make sure it is allowed to read/write,
what ever you deem as necessary.
Make sure that all computers Firewalls are set to allow communication and
sharing.
In general
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Alain Bourgeois" wrote in message
...
Dear all,

I have 3 pc's in a single network, in a single workgroup named MSHOME,
and one wireless router / hub:
OLDONE Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.4 wireless
BUREAU Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.2 ethernet
HANONM Win vista home sp1 192.168.1.3 ethernet

Submask is 255.255.255.0
Router IP is 192.168.1.1
PC IP's are given by router dhcp.
Netbios on tcp/ip is set to default (dhcp).

The firewalls are disabled on all computers.

All pc's can surf on the internet.
Pinging from any computer to any computer on IP address works. (including
bureau)
Pinging from any computer to any computer on computer name also works.
(including bureau)
Guest account is enabled on all computers.
Username and password are the same on all pc's.

BUT I have a LAN problem: when browsing entire network/MSHOME workgroup:
* from oldone and hanonm- I see computers oldone and hanonm, but not
bureau
* from bureau: I get the following message (FRENCH):
Mshome n'est pas accessible. Vous ne disposez peut-être pas des
autotisations nécessaires pour utiliser cette ressource réseau. Contactez
l'administrateur de ce serveur pour savoir si vous disposez des
autorisations d'accès.
La liste des serveurs de groupe de travail n'est pas disponible
actuellement.

Which can be translated as:
Mshome is not accessible. You have perhaps not autotisations to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions.
The list of workgroup servers is currently unavailable.

Any hint?


Regards,
Alain





  #5  
Old January 23rd 09, 06:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Alain Bourgeois
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

The problem is a network browsing only:
* ping works
* file sharing also works if \\computername\share is used!


"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote in message
...
Hi
Check the Guest account permissions make sure it is allowed to read/write,
what ever you deem as necessary.
Make sure that all computers Firewalls are set to allow communication and
sharing.
In general
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Alain Bourgeois" wrote in message
...
Dear all,

I have 3 pc's in a single network, in a single workgroup named MSHOME,
and one wireless router / hub:
OLDONE Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.4 wireless
BUREAU Win xp home sp3 192.168.1.2 ethernet
HANONM Win vista home sp1 192.168.1.3 ethernet

Submask is 255.255.255.0
Router IP is 192.168.1.1
PC IP's are given by router dhcp.
Netbios on tcp/ip is set to default (dhcp).

The firewalls are disabled on all computers.

All pc's can surf on the internet.
Pinging from any computer to any computer on IP address works. (including
bureau)
Pinging from any computer to any computer on computer name also works.
(including bureau)
Guest account is enabled on all computers.
Username and password are the same on all pc's.

BUT I have a LAN problem: when browsing entire network/MSHOME workgroup:
* from oldone and hanonm- I see computers oldone and hanonm, but not
bureau
* from bureau: I get the following message (FRENCH):
Mshome n'est pas accessible. Vous ne disposez peut-être pas des
autotisations nécessaires pour utiliser cette ressource réseau. Contactez
l'administrateur de ce serveur pour savoir si vous disposez des
autorisations d'accès.
La liste des serveurs de groupe de travail n'est pas disponible
actuellement.

Which can be translated as:
Mshome is not accessible. You have perhaps not autotisations to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
you have access permissions.
The list of workgroup servers is currently unavailable.

Any hint?


Regards,
Alain





  #6  
Old January 24th 09, 07:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
phaedrus06
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Posts: 2
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer


I know this sucks but the most common problem with Windows file sharing
is, well, Windows. It sounds like you did everything correctly and you
were rather thorough, but Windows is unfortunately broken. How it
happens can be one of many ways like registry errors, software
conflicts, or maybe your OS is just old (an OS's quality can naturally
decay with time, usually over three years). I hate to tell you but the
best solution is probably a reinstall. I don't like it and reluctantly
tell my clients that is a good idea because rarely if ever should one
have to reinstall an OS to fix a problem.

What I would recommend in the meantime, since frankly no one likes to
reinstall, is to create a Run shortcut on your desktop pointing to the
computer you are having difficultly browsing. Either that or use
freeware file sharing software instead of Windows which would be more
reliable and faster. I personally think Samba is a good one to use but
you can Google for others if you like.

Some quick fixes you can try a

registry/file cleaning

2 chkdsk /r from the CLI

3 rebuilding the TCP stack on the afflicted PC which is basically
uninstalling then reinstalling the TCP/IP protocol

4 check Windows for file integrity (you will need the Windows install
disk) using SFC /scannow from the Run line

5 Lastly check the router or network device for any settings you may
have missed. Sometimes the routers are bad themselves and switching
them with another will help but not always. In your case the problem
seems to be with Windows.


Hope it helps.


  #7  
Old January 24th 09, 07:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
phaedrus06
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Posts: 2
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer


I know this sucks but the most common problem with Windows file sharing
is, well, Windows. It sounds like you did everything correctly and you
were rather thorough, but Windows is unfortunately broken. How it
happens can be one of many ways like registry errors, software
conflicts, or maybe your OS is just old (an OS's quality can naturally
decay with time, usually over three years). I hate to tell you but the
best solution is probably a reinstall. I don't like it and reluctantly
tell my clients that is a good idea because rarely if ever should one
have to reinstall an OS to fix a problem.

What I would recommend in the meantime, since frankly no one likes to
reinstall, is to create a Run shortcut on your desktop pointing to the
computer you are having difficultly browsing. Either that or use
freeware file sharing software instead of Windows which would be more
reliable and faster. I personally think Samba is a good one to use but
you can Google for others if you like.

Some quick fixes you can try a

registry/file cleaning

2 chkdsk /r from the CLI

3 rebuilding the TCP stack on the afflicted PC which is basically
uninstalling then reinstalling the TCP/IP protocol

4 check Windows for file integrity (you will need the Windows install
disk) using SFC /scannow from the Run line

5 Lastly check the router or network device for any settings you may
have missed. Sometimes the routers are bad themselves and switching
them with another will help but not always. In your case the problem
seems to be with Windows.


Hope it helps.


  #8  
Old January 25th 09, 05:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Alain Bourgeois
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Posts: 14
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

Sorry,

the problem is NOT file sharing. Samba will not solve anything: sharing
works already correctly. It is a pure network browsing problem (see all pc's
in same workgroup, I don't know other softwares doing this). And if I have
to create shortcuts to each pc, this is not a solution.
"phaedrus06" wrote in message
news

I know this sucks but the most common problem with Windows file sharing
is, well, Windows. It sounds like you did everything correctly and you
were rather thorough, but Windows is unfortunately broken. How it
happens can be one of many ways like registry errors, software
conflicts, or maybe your OS is just old (an OS's quality can naturally
decay with time, usually over three years). I hate to tell you but the
best solution is probably a reinstall. I don't like it and reluctantly
tell my clients that is a good idea because rarely if ever should one
have to reinstall an OS to fix a problem.

What I would recommend in the meantime, since frankly no one likes to
reinstall, is to create a Run shortcut on your desktop pointing to the
computer you are having difficultly browsing. Either that or use
freeware file sharing software instead of Windows which would be more
reliable and faster. I personally think Samba is a good one to use but
you can Google for others if you like.

Some quick fixes you can try a

registry/file cleaning

2 chkdsk /r from the CLI

3 rebuilding the TCP stack on the afflicted PC which is basically
uninstalling then reinstalling the TCP/IP protocol

4 check Windows for file integrity (you will need the Windows install
disk) using SFC /scannow from the Run line

5 Lastly check the router or network device for any settings you may
have missed. Sometimes the routers are bad themselves and switching
them with another will help but not always. In your case the problem
seems to be with Windows.


Hope it helps.




  #9  
Old January 25th 09, 05:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Alain Bourgeois
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

Sorry,

the problem is NOT file sharing. Samba will not solve anything: sharing
works already correctly. It is a pure network browsing problem (see all pc's
in same workgroup, I don't know other softwares doing this). And if I have
to create shortcuts to each pc, this is not a solution.
"phaedrus06" wrote in message
news

I know this sucks but the most common problem with Windows file sharing
is, well, Windows. It sounds like you did everything correctly and you
were rather thorough, but Windows is unfortunately broken. How it
happens can be one of many ways like registry errors, software
conflicts, or maybe your OS is just old (an OS's quality can naturally
decay with time, usually over three years). I hate to tell you but the
best solution is probably a reinstall. I don't like it and reluctantly
tell my clients that is a good idea because rarely if ever should one
have to reinstall an OS to fix a problem.

What I would recommend in the meantime, since frankly no one likes to
reinstall, is to create a Run shortcut on your desktop pointing to the
computer you are having difficultly browsing. Either that or use
freeware file sharing software instead of Windows which would be more
reliable and faster. I personally think Samba is a good one to use but
you can Google for others if you like.

Some quick fixes you can try a

registry/file cleaning

2 chkdsk /r from the CLI

3 rebuilding the TCP stack on the afflicted PC which is basically
uninstalling then reinstalling the TCP/IP protocol

4 check Windows for file integrity (you will need the Windows install
disk) using SFC /scannow from the Run line

5 Lastly check the router or network device for any settings you may
have missed. Sometimes the routers are bad themselves and switching
them with another will help but not always. In your case the problem
seems to be with Windows.


Hope it helps.




  #10  
Old January 26th 09, 02:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
phaedrus06[_3_]
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Posts: 2
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer


Well when I was referring to file sharing I meant all aspects of it
including browsing as you were mentioning which is the problem. Did you
try any of the fixes I mentioned? They are all useful in their own way
and until you try it you won't know it can help you.

Also why not create a shortcut to your shared folder for network
browsing if it works as you say? Even if regular browsing doesn't work
at least you have that until you can figure something out. Besides
sometimes as I mentioned before Windows just plain sucks and doesn't
work no matter what you do so a reinstall may be necessary if you REALLY
NEED that one network browser. Otherwise if you don't need the normal
browser then just make a shortcut on the Desktop or try the previous
solutions. Hope you find something.


  #11  
Old January 26th 09, 02:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
phaedrus06[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer


Well when I was referring to file sharing I meant all aspects of it
including browsing as you were mentioning which is the problem. Did you
try any of the fixes I mentioned? They are all useful in their own way
and until you try it you won't know it can help you.

Also why not create a shortcut to your shared folder for network
browsing if it works as you say? Even if regular browsing doesn't work
at least you have that until you can figure something out. Besides
sometimes as I mentioned before Windows just plain sucks and doesn't
work no matter what you do so a reinstall may be necessary if you REALLY
NEED that one network browser. Otherwise if you don't need the normal
browser then just make a shortcut on the Desktop or try the previous
solutions. Hope you find something.


  #12  
Old January 26th 09, 02:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
phaedrus06[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer


On another note you could try making a simple P2P server on your home
LAN negating the need for Windows entirely like say DC++ via the YnHub.
If you google file servers you'll get a better idea of the kinds of
software you can use.

And not that I mean to inflate Linux's ego or anything but using it
would probably be more reliable as a file server or at the least you
could use WHS (Windows Home Server) which is a pretty good file server.


  #13  
Old January 26th 09, 02:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
phaedrus06[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer


On another note you could try making a simple P2P server on your home
LAN negating the need for Windows entirely like say DC++ via the YnHub.
If you google file servers you'll get a better idea of the kinds of
software you can use.

And not that I mean to inflate Linux's ego or anything but using it
would probably be more reliable as a file server or at the least you
could use WHS (Windows Home Server) which is a pretty good file server.


  #14  
Old January 29th 09, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Alain Bourgeois
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

None of these allow me to browse network.
"phaedrus06" wrote in message
news

Well when I was referring to file sharing I meant all aspects of it
including browsing as you were mentioning which is the problem. Did you
try any of the fixes I mentioned? They are all useful in their own way
and until you try it you won't know it can help you.

Also why not create a shortcut to your shared folder for network
browsing if it works as you say? Even if regular browsing doesn't work
at least you have that until you can figure something out. Besides
sometimes as I mentioned before Windows just plain sucks and doesn't
work no matter what you do so a reinstall may be necessary if you REALLY
NEED that one network browser. Otherwise if you don't need the normal
browser then just make a shortcut on the Desktop or try the previous
solutions. Hope you find something.




  #15  
Old January 29th 09, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Alain Bourgeois
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14
Default browsing workgroup doesn't work on one computer

None of these allow me to browse network.
"phaedrus06" wrote in message
news

Well when I was referring to file sharing I meant all aspects of it
including browsing as you were mentioning which is the problem. Did you
try any of the fixes I mentioned? They are all useful in their own way
and until you try it you won't know it can help you.

Also why not create a shortcut to your shared folder for network
browsing if it works as you say? Even if regular browsing doesn't work
at least you have that until you can figure something out. Besides
sometimes as I mentioned before Windows just plain sucks and doesn't
work no matter what you do so a reinstall may be necessary if you REALLY
NEED that one network browser. Otherwise if you don't need the normal
browser then just make a shortcut on the Desktop or try the previous
solutions. Hope you find something.




 




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