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  #1  
Old May 5th 09, 07:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
AllanW
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Posts: 6
Default No disc space

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that
very little else. The only large programmes are Norton & Microsoft office.
All the disc space seems to be used by files in the My Computer 'Windows'
folder. Not knowing what this contains can anyone suggest what I can delete.
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?

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  #2  
Old May 5th 09, 08:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Posts: 3,048
Default No disc space

First: You may have a 40 GB (gigabyte) hard drive, which is a measure of
capacity; not 40 GHz (gigahertz), which is a measure of speed.

Try these steps to recover some usable disk space:
1. Empty your Recycle Bin.
2. Reduce the allocation for Temporary Internet Files (Control Panel
Internet Options General tab Temporary Internet Files Settings
button.) If you have a reliable broadband connection, all you need is
about 25 MB for TIF.
3. Reduce the allocation for the Recycle Bin (right-click on the Bin and
select Properties.)
4. Reduce the allocation for restore points (Control Panel System
System Restore.)
5. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard (Start All Programs Accessories
System Tools.)

40 GB is small for a hard disk these days--you probably have an older
computer--but it's certainly adequate for running Windows and typical
home user tasks (internet, email, documents, spreadsheets.)
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

AllanW wrote:
I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that
very little else. The only large programmes are Norton & Microsoft office.
All the disc space seems to be used by files in the My Computer 'Windows'
folder. Not knowing what this contains can anyone suggest what I can delete.
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?

  #3  
Old May 5th 09, 08:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Posts: 3,048
Default No disc space

First: You may have a 40 GB (gigabyte) hard drive, which is a measure of
capacity; not 40 GHz (gigahertz), which is a measure of speed.

Try these steps to recover some usable disk space:
1. Empty your Recycle Bin.
2. Reduce the allocation for Temporary Internet Files (Control Panel
Internet Options General tab Temporary Internet Files Settings
button.) If you have a reliable broadband connection, all you need is
about 25 MB for TIF.
3. Reduce the allocation for the Recycle Bin (right-click on the Bin and
select Properties.)
4. Reduce the allocation for restore points (Control Panel System
System Restore.)
5. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard (Start All Programs Accessories
System Tools.)

40 GB is small for a hard disk these days--you probably have an older
computer--but it's certainly adequate for running Windows and typical
home user tasks (internet, email, documents, spreadsheets.)
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

AllanW wrote:
I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that
very little else. The only large programmes are Norton & Microsoft office.
All the disc space seems to be used by files in the My Computer 'Windows'
folder. Not knowing what this contains can anyone suggest what I can delete.
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?

  #4  
Old May 5th 09, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ken Blake, MVP
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Posts: 10,402
Default No disc space

On Tue, 05 May 2009 18:43:32 GMT, "AllanW" u51703@uwe wrote:

I have a 40Ghz drive



You undoubtedly mean GB, not GHz.



and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that
very little else. The only large programmes are Norton & Microsoft office.
All the disc space seems to be used by files in the My Computer 'Windows'
folder. Not knowing what this contains can anyone suggest what I can delete.
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?



A 40GB drive is absolutely tiny these days. Although there are things
you can do to reduce the space used, with such a tiny drive, anything
you do will be just a stopgap measure. Sooner or later you will need
to replace that drive with a bigger one (or add a second drive), and
it will probably be sooner rather than later. My advice is to bite the
bullet and buy a new drive now. The cost of drives is exceedingly low
right now.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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  #5  
Old May 5th 09, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ken Blake, MVP
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Posts: 10,402
Default No disc space

On Tue, 05 May 2009 18:43:32 GMT, "AllanW" u51703@uwe wrote:

I have a 40Ghz drive



You undoubtedly mean GB, not GHz.



and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that
very little else. The only large programmes are Norton & Microsoft office.
All the disc space seems to be used by files in the My Computer 'Windows'
folder. Not knowing what this contains can anyone suggest what I can delete.
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?



A 40GB drive is absolutely tiny these days. Although there are things
you can do to reduce the space used, with such a tiny drive, anything
you do will be just a stopgap measure. Sooner or later you will need
to replace that drive with a bigger one (or add a second drive), and
it will probably be sooner rather than later. My advice is to bite the
bullet and buy a new drive now. The cost of drives is exceedingly low
right now.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #6  
Old May 5th 09, 08:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
AllanW
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Posts: 6
Default No disc space

Thank you for the awareness of the terminoligy for the drive memory!
I have tried all the points you suggest and have found no difference. I still
think is must be hidden files etc in the windoews folder taking up space. Any
other suggestions.

Leonard Grey wrote:
First: You may have a 40 GB (gigabyte) hard drive, which is a measure of
capacity; not 40 GHz (gigahertz), which is a measure of speed.

Try these steps to recover some usable disk space:
1. Empty your Recycle Bin.
2. Reduce the allocation for Temporary Internet Files (Control Panel
Internet Options General tab Temporary Internet Files Settings
button.) If you have a reliable broadband connection, all you need is
about 25 MB for TIF.
3. Reduce the allocation for the Recycle Bin (right-click on the Bin and
select Properties.)
4. Reduce the allocation for restore points (Control Panel System
System Restore.)
5. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard (Start All Programs Accessories
System Tools.)

40 GB is small for a hard disk these days--you probably have an older
computer--but it's certainly adequate for running Windows and typical
home user tasks (internet, email, documents, spreadsheets.)
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that

[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


  #7  
Old May 5th 09, 08:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
AllanW
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6
Default No disc space

Thank you for the awareness of the terminoligy for the drive memory!
I have tried all the points you suggest and have found no difference. I still
think is must be hidden files etc in the windoews folder taking up space. Any
other suggestions.

Leonard Grey wrote:
First: You may have a 40 GB (gigabyte) hard drive, which is a measure of
capacity; not 40 GHz (gigahertz), which is a measure of speed.

Try these steps to recover some usable disk space:
1. Empty your Recycle Bin.
2. Reduce the allocation for Temporary Internet Files (Control Panel
Internet Options General tab Temporary Internet Files Settings
button.) If you have a reliable broadband connection, all you need is
about 25 MB for TIF.
3. Reduce the allocation for the Recycle Bin (right-click on the Bin and
select Properties.)
4. Reduce the allocation for restore points (Control Panel System
System Restore.)
5. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard (Start All Programs Accessories
System Tools.)

40 GB is small for a hard disk these days--you probably have an older
computer--but it's certainly adequate for running Windows and typical
home user tasks (internet, email, documents, spreadsheets.)
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that

[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


  #8  
Old May 5th 09, 08:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Posts: 3,048
Default No disc space

Scan for malware.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

AllanW wrote:
Thank you for the awareness of the terminoligy for the drive memory!
I have tried all the points you suggest and have found no difference. I still
think is must be hidden files etc in the windoews folder taking up space. Any
other suggestions.

Leonard Grey wrote:
First: You may have a 40 GB (gigabyte) hard drive, which is a measure of
capacity; not 40 GHz (gigahertz), which is a measure of speed.

Try these steps to recover some usable disk space:
1. Empty your Recycle Bin.
2. Reduce the allocation for Temporary Internet Files (Control Panel
Internet Options General tab Temporary Internet Files Settings
button.) If you have a reliable broadband connection, all you need is
about 25 MB for TIF.
3. Reduce the allocation for the Recycle Bin (right-click on the Bin and
select Properties.)
4. Reduce the allocation for restore points (Control Panel System
System Restore.)
5. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard (Start All Programs Accessories
System Tools.)

40 GB is small for a hard disk these days--you probably have an older
computer--but it's certainly adequate for running Windows and typical
home user tasks (internet, email, documents, spreadsheets.)
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that

[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


  #9  
Old May 5th 09, 08:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Leonard Grey[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,048
Default No disc space

Scan for malware.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

AllanW wrote:
Thank you for the awareness of the terminoligy for the drive memory!
I have tried all the points you suggest and have found no difference. I still
think is must be hidden files etc in the windoews folder taking up space. Any
other suggestions.

Leonard Grey wrote:
First: You may have a 40 GB (gigabyte) hard drive, which is a measure of
capacity; not 40 GHz (gigahertz), which is a measure of speed.

Try these steps to recover some usable disk space:
1. Empty your Recycle Bin.
2. Reduce the allocation for Temporary Internet Files (Control Panel
Internet Options General tab Temporary Internet Files Settings
button.) If you have a reliable broadband connection, all you need is
about 25 MB for TIF.
3. Reduce the allocation for the Recycle Bin (right-click on the Bin and
select Properties.)
4. Reduce the allocation for restore points (Control Panel System
System Restore.)
5. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard (Start All Programs Accessories
System Tools.)

40 GB is small for a hard disk these days--you probably have an older
computer--but it's certainly adequate for running Windows and typical
home user tasks (internet, email, documents, spreadsheets.)
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full. I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that

[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


  #10  
Old May 5th 09, 09:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Bob Harris
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Posts: 424
Default No disc space

First, a clarification: Do you mean MyComputer, C:, Windows, also called
C:\Windows?

If so, then be very careful about removing stuff, since that is where XP
lives.

However, nearly 40 Gig in that folder is not normal.

You might want to try a free tool called "Treesize". It can show the size
of all files by subdirectory. If you can track the usage to one or a few
subdirectories, then you could look at another computer and try to determine
whether there are some unusual files, possibly the remnant of a virus or
whatever. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

You should also enable windows explorer to see all files, including hidden
and system files, at least temporarily.

Things that can use a lot of disk space include the assorted temp areas,
system volume information (which is used by system restore), *.CHK files
form crashes and recoveries, to name a few.

Also, if you have a Norton protected reccycle bin, that can sometimes get
pretty large. Worse, it is hard to see the Norton recycle bin, since Norton
hides it from the operating system. The Norton integrator should offer an
option to clean files from the bin every so many days.

If nothing else can see the files, try booting from a LINUX CD and looking
around. What is hidden from Windows is usually visible to LINUX. A free
KNOPPIX CD would suffice: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html


"AllanW" u51703@uwe wrote in message news:95a2b994b18e4@uwe...
I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full.
I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that
very little else. The only large programmes are Norton & Microsoft office.
All the disc space seems to be used by files in the My Computer 'Windows'
folder. Not knowing what this contains can anyone suggest what I can
delete.
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?



  #11  
Old May 5th 09, 09:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Bob Harris
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 424
Default No disc space

First, a clarification: Do you mean MyComputer, C:, Windows, also called
C:\Windows?

If so, then be very careful about removing stuff, since that is where XP
lives.

However, nearly 40 Gig in that folder is not normal.

You might want to try a free tool called "Treesize". It can show the size
of all files by subdirectory. If you can track the usage to one or a few
subdirectories, then you could look at another computer and try to determine
whether there are some unusual files, possibly the remnant of a virus or
whatever. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

You should also enable windows explorer to see all files, including hidden
and system files, at least temporarily.

Things that can use a lot of disk space include the assorted temp areas,
system volume information (which is used by system restore), *.CHK files
form crashes and recoveries, to name a few.

Also, if you have a Norton protected reccycle bin, that can sometimes get
pretty large. Worse, it is hard to see the Norton recycle bin, since Norton
hides it from the operating system. The Norton integrator should offer an
option to clean files from the bin every so many days.

If nothing else can see the files, try booting from a LINUX CD and looking
around. What is hidden from Windows is usually visible to LINUX. A free
KNOPPIX CD would suffice: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html


"AllanW" u51703@uwe wrote in message news:95a2b994b18e4@uwe...
I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full.
I
have less that 1Ghz of pictures and less than 1Ghz music. Other than that
very little else. The only large programmes are Norton & Microsoft office.
All the disc space seems to be used by files in the My Computer 'Windows'
folder. Not knowing what this contains can anyone suggest what I can
delete.
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?



  #12  
Old May 5th 09, 10:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
AllanW
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Posts: 6
Default No disc space

Yes I mean MyComputer C:Windows
Ran the tree size download an can see that there are a number of files with a
.msp taking approx 26GB of the hard drive. What are they, can they be deleted?




Bob Harris wrote:
First, a clarification: Do you mean MyComputer, C:, Windows, also called
C:\Windows?

If so, then be very careful about removing stuff, since that is where XP
lives.

However, nearly 40 Gig in that folder is not normal.

You might want to try a free tool called "Treesize". It can show the size
of all files by subdirectory. If you can track the usage to one or a few
subdirectories, then you could look at another computer and try to determine
whether there are some unusual files, possibly the remnant of a virus or
whatever. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

You should also enable windows explorer to see all files, including hidden
and system files, at least temporarily.

Things that can use a lot of disk space include the assorted temp areas,
system volume information (which is used by system restore), *.CHK files
form crashes and recoveries, to name a few.

Also, if you have a Norton protected reccycle bin, that can sometimes get
pretty large. Worse, it is hard to see the Norton recycle bin, since Norton
hides it from the operating system. The Norton integrator should offer an
option to clean files from the bin every so many days.

If nothing else can see the files, try booting from a LINUX CD and looking
around. What is hidden from Windows is usually visible to LINUX. A free
KNOPPIX CD would suffice: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full.
I

[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


  #13  
Old May 5th 09, 10:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
AllanW
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6
Default No disc space

Yes I mean MyComputer C:Windows
Ran the tree size download an can see that there are a number of files with a
msp taking approx 26GB of the hard drive. What are they, can they be deleted?




Bob Harris wrote:
First, a clarification: Do you mean MyComputer, C:, Windows, also called
C:\Windows?

If so, then be very careful about removing stuff, since that is where XP
lives.

However, nearly 40 Gig in that folder is not normal.

You might want to try a free tool called "Treesize". It can show the size
of all files by subdirectory. If you can track the usage to one or a few
subdirectories, then you could look at another computer and try to determine
whether there are some unusual files, possibly the remnant of a virus or
whatever. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

You should also enable windows explorer to see all files, including hidden
and system files, at least temporarily.

Things that can use a lot of disk space include the assorted temp areas,
system volume information (which is used by system restore), *.CHK files
form crashes and recoveries, to name a few.

Also, if you have a Norton protected reccycle bin, that can sometimes get
pretty large. Worse, it is hard to see the Norton recycle bin, since Norton
hides it from the operating system. The Norton integrator should offer an
option to clean files from the bin every so many days.

If nothing else can see the files, try booting from a LINUX CD and looking
around. What is hidden from Windows is usually visible to LINUX. A free
KNOPPIX CD would suffice: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full.
I

[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


  #14  
Old May 5th 09, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Leonard Grey[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,048
Default No disc space

No--do not delete those files. They are needed to update and/or remove
much of your software.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

AllanW wrote:
Yes I mean MyComputer C:Windows
Ran the tree size download an can see that there are a number of files with a
.msp taking approx 26GB of the hard drive. What are they, can they be deleted?




Bob Harris wrote:
First, a clarification: Do you mean MyComputer, C:, Windows, also called
C:\Windows?

If so, then be very careful about removing stuff, since that is where XP
lives.

However, nearly 40 Gig in that folder is not normal.

You might want to try a free tool called "Treesize". It can show the size
of all files by subdirectory. If you can track the usage to one or a few
subdirectories, then you could look at another computer and try to determine
whether there are some unusual files, possibly the remnant of a virus or
whatever. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

You should also enable windows explorer to see all files, including hidden
and system files, at least temporarily.

Things that can use a lot of disk space include the assorted temp areas,
system volume information (which is used by system restore), *.CHK files
form crashes and recoveries, to name a few.

Also, if you have a Norton protected reccycle bin, that can sometimes get
pretty large. Worse, it is hard to see the Norton recycle bin, since Norton
hides it from the operating system. The Norton integrator should offer an
option to clean files from the bin every so many days.

If nothing else can see the files, try booting from a LINUX CD and looking
around. What is hidden from Windows is usually visible to LINUX. A free
KNOPPIX CD would suffice: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full.
I

[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


  #15  
Old May 5th 09, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Leonard Grey[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,048
Default No disc space

No--do not delete those files. They are needed to update and/or remove
much of your software.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

AllanW wrote:
Yes I mean MyComputer C:Windows
Ran the tree size download an can see that there are a number of files with a
.msp taking approx 26GB of the hard drive. What are they, can they be deleted?




Bob Harris wrote:
First, a clarification: Do you mean MyComputer, C:, Windows, also called
C:\Windows?

If so, then be very careful about removing stuff, since that is where XP
lives.

However, nearly 40 Gig in that folder is not normal.

You might want to try a free tool called "Treesize". It can show the size
of all files by subdirectory. If you can track the usage to one or a few
subdirectories, then you could look at another computer and try to determine
whether there are some unusual files, possibly the remnant of a virus or
whatever. http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

You should also enable windows explorer to see all files, including hidden
and system files, at least temporarily.

Things that can use a lot of disk space include the assorted temp areas,
system volume information (which is used by system restore), *.CHK files
form crashes and recoveries, to name a few.

Also, if you have a Norton protected reccycle bin, that can sometimes get
pretty large. Worse, it is hard to see the Norton recycle bin, since Norton
hides it from the operating system. The Norton integrator should offer an
option to clean files from the bin every so many days.

If nothing else can see the files, try booting from a LINUX CD and looking
around. What is hidden from Windows is usually visible to LINUX. A free
KNOPPIX CD would suffice: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

I have a 40Ghz drive and according to the 'C' drive propertise it is full.
I

[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
Some of the larger folders appear to be PCHealth, SoftwareDistribution,
RegisteredPackages,System32, can I delete files contained within these?


 




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