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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his
computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
On May 14, 3:20*pm, "M Skabialka" wrote:
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. *He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. *It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. *Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. *Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. *Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? *I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! *Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich It seems to be a coincidence that at the time the new video card was installed, the hard drive has failed. When you placed the hard drive into a USB case, make sure that the "other" PC is not set to "boot" off any type of USB "device" first. Also, boot the XP successfully and then "try" to connect the USB "enabled" hard drive. You will possibly need to locate a disk recovery system. TestDisk is an "open source" recovery system As soon as you have "saved" all import info from the "defunct" hard drive, locate the driver's manufacturer hard drive diagnostic tools and check the drive. |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
On May 14, 3:20*pm, "M Skabialka" wrote:
A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. *He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. *It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. *Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. *Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. *Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? *I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! *Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich It seems to be a coincidence that at the time the new video card was installed, the hard drive has failed. When you placed the hard drive into a USB case, make sure that the "other" PC is not set to "boot" off any type of USB "device" first. Also, boot the XP successfully and then "try" to connect the USB "enabled" hard drive. You will possibly need to locate a disk recovery system. TestDisk is an "open source" recovery system As soon as you have "saved" all import info from the "defunct" hard drive, locate the driver's manufacturer hard drive diagnostic tools and check the drive. |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB
cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On May 14, 3:20 pm, "M Skabialka" wrote: A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich It seems to be a coincidence that at the time the new video card was installed, the hard drive has failed. When you placed the hard drive into a USB case, make sure that the "other" PC is not set to "boot" off any type of USB "device" first. Also, boot the XP successfully and then "try" to connect the USB "enabled" hard drive. You will possibly need to locate a disk recovery system. TestDisk is an "open source" recovery system As soon as you have "saved" all import info from the "defunct" hard drive, locate the driver's manufacturer hard drive diagnostic tools and check the drive. |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB
cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On May 14, 3:20 pm, "M Skabialka" wrote: A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich It seems to be a coincidence that at the time the new video card was installed, the hard drive has failed. When you placed the hard drive into a USB case, make sure that the "other" PC is not set to "boot" off any type of USB "device" first. Also, boot the XP successfully and then "try" to connect the USB "enabled" hard drive. You will possibly need to locate a disk recovery system. TestDisk is an "open source" recovery system As soon as you have "saved" all import info from the "defunct" hard drive, locate the driver's manufacturer hard drive diagnostic tools and check the drive. |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
"M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich (Mich later adds...) The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? Mich... It's hard to tell exactly what's going on here that's causing this problem other than it seems a defective HDD is at the root of the problem as "smulnatick" has suggested. But maybe not. Anyway, do this... 1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? Try the above for starters... Anna |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
"M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich (Mich later adds...) The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? Mich... It's hard to tell exactly what's going on here that's causing this problem other than it seems a defective HDD is at the root of the problem as "smulnatick" has suggested. But maybe not. Anyway, do this... 1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? Try the above for starters... Anna |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and
see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. I will try this as you suggest. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? Yes it is recognized, and Windows seems to start to boot. e.g. in Safe Mode it starts listing the drivers it is loading then always crashes at the same point. So it is reading the drive. 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? Yes, otherwise there'd be nothing on the screen - right? It looks no different using the new AGP card, the old AGP card or the onboard video. 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. I didn't install it as a secondary on my XP machine as it already has 2 HDD drives and 2 CD/DVD drives, and after the crash I'm somewhat wary of corrupting my machine as well as his. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? I tried this but as soon as I select R for Recovery Console or any other choice I get the BSOD error. I am not ready to reformat and start over yet... "Anna" wrote in message ... "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich (Mich later adds...) The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? Mich... It's hard to tell exactly what's going on here that's causing this problem other than it seems a defective HDD is at the root of the problem as "smulnatick" has suggested. But maybe not. Anyway, do this... 1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? Try the above for starters... Anna |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and
see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. I will try this as you suggest. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? Yes it is recognized, and Windows seems to start to boot. e.g. in Safe Mode it starts listing the drivers it is loading then always crashes at the same point. So it is reading the drive. 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? Yes, otherwise there'd be nothing on the screen - right? It looks no different using the new AGP card, the old AGP card or the onboard video. 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. I didn't install it as a secondary on my XP machine as it already has 2 HDD drives and 2 CD/DVD drives, and after the crash I'm somewhat wary of corrupting my machine as well as his. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? I tried this but as soon as I select R for Recovery Console or any other choice I get the BSOD error. I am not ready to reformat and start over yet... "Anna" wrote in message ... "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich (Mich later adds...) The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? Mich... It's hard to tell exactly what's going on here that's causing this problem other than it seems a defective HDD is at the root of the problem as "smulnatick" has suggested. But maybe not. Anyway, do this... 1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? Try the above for starters... Anna |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
"M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich (Mich later adds...) The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... 1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. I will try this as you suggest. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? Yes it is recognized, and Windows seems to start to boot. e.g. in Safe Mode it starts listing the drivers it is loading then always crashes at the same point. So it is reading the drive. 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? Yes, otherwise there'd be nothing on the screen - right? It looks no different using the new AGP card, the old AGP card or the onboard video. 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. I didn't install it as a secondary on my XP machine as it already has 2 HDD drives and 2 CD/DVD drives, and after the crash I'm somewhat wary of corrupting my machine as well as his. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? I tried this but as soon as I select R for Recovery Console or any other choice I get the BSOD error. I am not ready to reformat and start over yet... Mitch: The only reason I brought up the question re the onboard graphics capability was to confirm that capability was enabled since I wasn't certain from your OP that you were getting a display and not a "black screen" situation. But you've indicated you indeed get a display so it appears there's no video problem traceable to the AGP graphics card or onboard graphics capability. Do check out the HDD with the diagnostic utility. Assuming it checks out OK, have you considered running a Repair install of the OS, assuming you have an XP OS installation CD (non-branded OEM or retail version) that will permit a Repair install? It may be worth a shot at this point. I really would consider installing the problem drive as a secondary HDD in a working machine to see if its data could be accessed. I really can't see how it would "corrupt" that system. Are you concerned about some malware infestation on that drive doing the "corrupting"? In any event, if its data could be accessed through that means (via Windows Explorer or Disk Management for example), it would indicate you're not working with a defective HDD. But that's your call of course. Anna |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
"M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich (Mich later adds...) The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... 1. Download the HDD diagnostic utility from the disk's manufacturer and see if you can check it out. It's possible the diagnostic program will not even detect the disk which is a near-sure sign you're dealing with a defective drive. I will try this as you suggest. 2. I'm assuming the disk is recognized in the BIOS when it's installed as an internal HDD and booted to. Is that right? Yes it is recognized, and Windows seems to start to boot. e.g. in Safe Mode it starts listing the drivers it is loading then always crashes at the same point. So it is reading the drive. 3. Setting aside the graphics card, you're sure the onboard graphics capability is enabled in the BIOS upon bootup? Yes, otherwise there'd be nothing on the screen - right? It looks no different using the new AGP card, the old AGP card or the onboard video. 4. Have you tried installing the HDD as an internal (secondary) HDD in the running machine, not as a USB device? Does the boot still fail? If so, that's another indication you're dealing with a defective HDD. I didn't install it as a secondary on my XP machine as it already has 2 HDD drives and 2 CD/DVD drives, and after the crash I'm somewhat wary of corrupting my machine as well as his. 5. Using the XP installation CD, have you tried booting to such and accessing the Recovery Console? Is the system detected under those circumstances? If so, have you invoked any of the usual commands (I assume with which you're familiar) to repair the boot process? I tried this but as soon as I select R for Recovery Console or any other choice I get the BSOD error. I am not ready to reformat and start over yet... Mitch: The only reason I brought up the question re the onboard graphics capability was to confirm that capability was enabled since I wasn't certain from your OP that you were getting a display and not a "black screen" situation. But you've indicated you indeed get a display so it appears there's no video problem traceable to the AGP graphics card or onboard graphics capability. Do check out the HDD with the diagnostic utility. Assuming it checks out OK, have you considered running a Repair install of the OS, assuming you have an XP OS installation CD (non-branded OEM or retail version) that will permit a Repair install? It may be worth a shot at this point. I really would consider installing the problem drive as a secondary HDD in a working machine to see if its data could be accessed. I really can't see how it would "corrupt" that system. Are you concerned about some malware infestation on that drive doing the "corrupting"? In any event, if its data could be accessed through that means (via Windows Explorer or Disk Management for example), it would indicate you're not working with a defective HDD. But that's your call of course. Anna |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
On May 14, 5:31*pm, "M Skabialka" wrote:
The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. *It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. *I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. *I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On May 14, 3:20 pm, "M Skabialka" wrote: A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich It seems to be a coincidence that at the time the new video card was installed, the hard drive has failed. *When you placed the hard drive into a USB case, make sure that the "other" PC is not set to "boot" off any type of USB "device" first. *Also, boot the XP successfully and then "try" to connect the USB "enabled" hard drive. You will possibly need to locate a disk recovery system. *TestDisk is an "open source" recovery system As soon as you have "saved" all import info from the "defunct" hard drive, locate the driver's manufacturer hard drive diagnostic tools and check the drive. Since you attempted to access this"defunct" drive on a different PC and it "rendered" the "other" PC unusable (aka crashed) then it may be "dead." Unfortuneately, with no "easy" means of accessing the data, the drive "may" be unrecoverable. |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
On May 14, 5:31*pm, "M Skabialka" wrote:
The other XP machine was already up and running when I plugged in the USB cable. *It showed Found New Hardware, recognized the drive, then the computer rebooted suddenly. *I removed the USB drive, rebooted, inserted the USB and it crashed again. *I am not booting to the USB drive. If I cannot connect the drive to another PC, how will I run a disk recovery system? "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On May 14, 3:20 pm, "M Skabialka" wrote: A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich It seems to be a coincidence that at the time the new video card was installed, the hard drive has failed. *When you placed the hard drive into a USB case, make sure that the "other" PC is not set to "boot" off any type of USB "device" first. *Also, boot the XP successfully and then "try" to connect the USB "enabled" hard drive. You will possibly need to locate a disk recovery system. *TestDisk is an "open source" recovery system As soon as you have "saved" all import info from the "defunct" hard drive, locate the driver's manufacturer hard drive diagnostic tools and check the drive. Since you attempted to access this"defunct" drive on a different PC and it "rendered" the "other" PC unusable (aka crashed) then it may be "dead." Unfortuneately, with no "easy" means of accessing the data, the drive "may" be unrecoverable. |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
After reading the series of suggestions and your responses, I tend to agree
that the hard drive is bad, not just some corrupt data, but mechanically/electrically bad. This reminds me of a frustrating problem I encounter several years ago. My PC would not even complete the BIOS checks, let alone boot into XP, or get far enough to press any "F" key to initiate some recovery process. The problem was eventually traced to a bad USB hub, which was sucking too much current, thus dropping the voltage to the motherboard enough to prevent the BIOS checks from completing. Up until that point I had assumed that a PC's power supply and/or design of the motherboard would limit current, but apparently that is not always the case. Instead, I get the feeling that the power supply is intended to limit the maximum voltage, that is, to smooth out (small) fluctuations on the 110 VAC line. But, there is a simple aeries of test you can run: (1) Boot the PC into XP, then attach any USB device, except the suspect hard drive, to the PC. If this works, the USB post on the PC is probably OK. (2) Remove that USB device and attached only the external USB enclosure, without the suspect hard drive. Caution: check the manual/website for the enclosure to be sure that attaching it without anything inside will not harm it. If it must have something inside, use a know-good hard drive, CD/DVD, etc. If this works, then the enclosure is probably OK. (3) Place the suspect hard drive in the enclosure and attach to the PC. If the PC crashes, the hard drive is probably bad (95%+ chance). (4) Download a "live" LINUX CD and boot the PC from it. (For example, the KNOPPIX CD runs on most hardware. http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) Then attach the suspect hard drive via the USB enclosure. If this also crashes the PC, the odds are about 100% that the hard drive is bad in a mechanical/electrical sense. If it does not, then you might have some sort of virus in the master boot record or partition table, and which is specific to windows operating systems. (This is a very wild guess, and most unlikely.) But, if you can read the hard drive recover files, remove partitions, reformat. As far as the AGP card itself, be aware that there are three different voltages for AGP cards, 3.3, 1.5, and 0.8 volts. Some motherboards are smart enough to sense the card's required voltage and provide it. Others can sense a mismatch, and will refuse to boot, possibly giving some "beep code". My ASUS P4S8X gives a verbal error message about such an incompatibility. However, it is also possible that a mismatch will destroy the video card and/or the motherboard. Thus, be sure of the voltages, before you install any AGP card, unless the same make/model as previously. See the following link for much good information about AGP: http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpfix/agpfix.html This link lists which card make/model has what flavor of AGP and which mother board (chipset) is compatible with which card type. http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html That all said, if you can see even some of the BIOS checks on the screen, then the video card is working, and your problem is something else (likely the hard drive). "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich |
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New AGP card crashed computer - now what?
After reading the series of suggestions and your responses, I tend to agree
that the hard drive is bad, not just some corrupt data, but mechanically/electrically bad. This reminds me of a frustrating problem I encounter several years ago. My PC would not even complete the BIOS checks, let alone boot into XP, or get far enough to press any "F" key to initiate some recovery process. The problem was eventually traced to a bad USB hub, which was sucking too much current, thus dropping the voltage to the motherboard enough to prevent the BIOS checks from completing. Up until that point I had assumed that a PC's power supply and/or design of the motherboard would limit current, but apparently that is not always the case. Instead, I get the feeling that the power supply is intended to limit the maximum voltage, that is, to smooth out (small) fluctuations on the 110 VAC line. But, there is a simple aeries of test you can run: (1) Boot the PC into XP, then attach any USB device, except the suspect hard drive, to the PC. If this works, the USB post on the PC is probably OK. (2) Remove that USB device and attached only the external USB enclosure, without the suspect hard drive. Caution: check the manual/website for the enclosure to be sure that attaching it without anything inside will not harm it. If it must have something inside, use a know-good hard drive, CD/DVD, etc. If this works, then the enclosure is probably OK. (3) Place the suspect hard drive in the enclosure and attach to the PC. If the PC crashes, the hard drive is probably bad (95%+ chance). (4) Download a "live" LINUX CD and boot the PC from it. (For example, the KNOPPIX CD runs on most hardware. http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) Then attach the suspect hard drive via the USB enclosure. If this also crashes the PC, the odds are about 100% that the hard drive is bad in a mechanical/electrical sense. If it does not, then you might have some sort of virus in the master boot record or partition table, and which is specific to windows operating systems. (This is a very wild guess, and most unlikely.) But, if you can read the hard drive recover files, remove partitions, reformat. As far as the AGP card itself, be aware that there are three different voltages for AGP cards, 3.3, 1.5, and 0.8 volts. Some motherboards are smart enough to sense the card's required voltage and provide it. Others can sense a mismatch, and will refuse to boot, possibly giving some "beep code". My ASUS P4S8X gives a verbal error message about such an incompatibility. However, it is also possible that a mismatch will destroy the video card and/or the motherboard. Thus, be sure of the voltages, before you install any AGP card, unless the same make/model as previously. See the following link for much good information about AGP: http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpfix/agpfix.html This link lists which card make/model has what flavor of AGP and which mother board (chipset) is compatible with which card type. http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html That all said, if you can see even some of the BIOS checks on the screen, then the video card is working, and your problem is something else (likely the hard drive). "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... A friend bought a new monitor for his XBox and wanted to also use it for his computer also but the computer only had a VGA port. He bought a new AGP video card with DVI-D interface and installed it into his 5 or 6 year old XP computer. It immediately crashed on boot, BSOD with errors about ntfs.sys, even when he put the old video card back, or even used the onboard video card. Set CMOS back to defaults, changed out the memory, CMOS battery, and other PCI cards. Finally took the hard drive out and put it in an external USB case and connected that to anothr XP machine which promptly crashed as soon as it recognized the USB connection. Tried it a couple of times more - crashed again each time with a generic MS message about possible driver problems. Until this point this PC was working great - what are some steps to getting this drive woking again, and saving data if ast all possible? I am wary about connecting the drive to a known good machine as I don't want it to kill it! Anti-virus was up-to-date. Mich |
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