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  #31  
Old June 18th 09, 06:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Michael W. Ryder
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Bill in Co. wrote:
Michael W. Ryder wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Really? Wow. Well I remember reading some of his technical articles
in
Byte Magazine, and, as an EE, I sure appreciated some of it! I think
this
was back in the 1980's, as I recall. Articles on interfacing various
stuff
(a mix of hardware and software) to the computers of those days. (I had
a
VIC-20 and Timex Sinclair at that time)

He's still writing with his own magazine with the same title.


Byte Magazine is now his magazine? (I don't know what happened to Byte
magazine)


I'm sorry about the confusion. I meant that his new magazine has the
same title as his column, Circuit Cellar.
Byte unfortunately was killed off after it was bought by another company.


JS wrote:
Steve and I were members of the same computer club.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Yup, although I seriously doubt if he knows who Steve Ciarcia is or
what
he wrote about, or much less could understand it. (Much of Ciarcia
published was fairly technical at the electronics level).

JS wrote:
The good old days of Tate, Wayne Green, Steve Ciarcia and others.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Bruce Chambers wrote:
db wrote:
you simply need to format
the unallocated space

then expand the system
partition.

Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and format
a
partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no room in
which
to expand the system partition.

Stick with subjects you know, whatever those might be. It's
certainly
not computers.
VIC-20's and DBASE1, I believe it was - but I can't recall now.



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  #32  
Old June 18th 09, 06:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Michael W. Ryder
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Posts: 265
Default reinstall xp

Bill in Co. wrote:
Michael W. Ryder wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Really? Wow. Well I remember reading some of his technical articles
in
Byte Magazine, and, as an EE, I sure appreciated some of it! I think
this
was back in the 1980's, as I recall. Articles on interfacing various
stuff
(a mix of hardware and software) to the computers of those days. (I had
a
VIC-20 and Timex Sinclair at that time)

He's still writing with his own magazine with the same title.


Byte Magazine is now his magazine? (I don't know what happened to Byte
magazine)


I'm sorry about the confusion. I meant that his new magazine has the
same title as his column, Circuit Cellar.
Byte unfortunately was killed off after it was bought by another company.


JS wrote:
Steve and I were members of the same computer club.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Yup, although I seriously doubt if he knows who Steve Ciarcia is or
what
he wrote about, or much less could understand it. (Much of Ciarcia
published was fairly technical at the electronics level).

JS wrote:
The good old days of Tate, Wayne Green, Steve Ciarcia and others.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Bruce Chambers wrote:
db wrote:
you simply need to format
the unallocated space

then expand the system
partition.

Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and format
a
partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no room in
which
to expand the system partition.

Stick with subjects you know, whatever those might be. It's
certainly
not computers.
VIC-20's and DBASE1, I believe it was - but I can't recall now.



  #33  
Old June 18th 09, 08:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Bill in Co.
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Default reinstall xp

Michael W. Ryder wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Michael W. Ryder wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Really? Wow. Well I remember reading some of his technical articles
in Byte Magazine, and, as an EE, I sure appreciated some of it! I
think
this was back in the 1980's, as I recall. Articles on interfacing
various
stuff (a mix of hardware and software) to the computers of those days.
(I had a VIC-20 and Timex Sinclair at that time)

He's still writing with his own magazine with the same title.


Byte Magazine is now his magazine? (I don't know what happened to Byte
magazine)


I'm sorry about the confusion. I meant that his new magazine has the
same title as his column, Circuit Cellar.


Oh, ok. Got it. "Circuit Cellar" definitely rings a bell. :-)

Byte unfortunately was killed off after it was bought by another company.


That is really sad. I guess it's yet another sign of the times....

JS wrote:
Steve and I were members of the same computer club.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Yup, although I seriously doubt if he knows who Steve Ciarcia is or
what
he wrote about, or much less could understand it. (Much of Ciarcia
published was fairly technical at the electronics level).

JS wrote:
The good old days of Tate, Wayne Green, Steve Ciarcia and others.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Bruce Chambers wrote:
db wrote:
you simply need to format the unallocated space
then expand the system partition.

Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and
format a
partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no room in
which to expand the system partition.

Stick with subjects you know, whatever those might be. It's
certainly not computers.

VIC-20's and DBASE1, I believe it was? But I can't recall now.



  #34  
Old June 18th 09, 08:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Bill in Co.
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Posts: 3,106
Default reinstall xp

Michael W. Ryder wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Michael W. Ryder wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Really? Wow. Well I remember reading some of his technical articles
in Byte Magazine, and, as an EE, I sure appreciated some of it! I
think
this was back in the 1980's, as I recall. Articles on interfacing
various
stuff (a mix of hardware and software) to the computers of those days.
(I had a VIC-20 and Timex Sinclair at that time)

He's still writing with his own magazine with the same title.


Byte Magazine is now his magazine? (I don't know what happened to Byte
magazine)


I'm sorry about the confusion. I meant that his new magazine has the
same title as his column, Circuit Cellar.


Oh, ok. Got it. "Circuit Cellar" definitely rings a bell. :-)

Byte unfortunately was killed off after it was bought by another company.


That is really sad. I guess it's yet another sign of the times....

JS wrote:
Steve and I were members of the same computer club.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Yup, although I seriously doubt if he knows who Steve Ciarcia is or
what
he wrote about, or much less could understand it. (Much of Ciarcia
published was fairly technical at the electronics level).

JS wrote:
The good old days of Tate, Wayne Green, Steve Ciarcia and others.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Bruce Chambers wrote:
db wrote:
you simply need to format the unallocated space
then expand the system partition.

Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and
format a
partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no room in
which to expand the system partition.

Stick with subjects you know, whatever those might be. It's
certainly not computers.

VIC-20's and DBASE1, I believe it was? But I can't recall now.



  #35  
Old June 18th 09, 03:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Rick
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Default reinstall xp

colleen wrote:
I installed win xp on a 80 gig drive but when i look at it under explorer it
shows 7 gig when i look at it under disk management, it shows 7 gig ntfs and
66 gig unallocated.
do I have to start all over again, and reinstall win xp or is there a way to
keep the 7 gig of win xp and other programs but gain use to the rest of the
drive? If i do have to reinstall how do i get the whole drive allocated?
Thanks in advance for your help


I would buy software to partition the 66GB you have left. I like
Partition Magic personally but, there are others available perhaps for
less money.
Good luck,
Rick
  #36  
Old June 18th 09, 03:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Rick
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Posts: 68
Default reinstall xp

colleen wrote:
I installed win xp on a 80 gig drive but when i look at it under explorer it
shows 7 gig when i look at it under disk management, it shows 7 gig ntfs and
66 gig unallocated.
do I have to start all over again, and reinstall win xp or is there a way to
keep the 7 gig of win xp and other programs but gain use to the rest of the
drive? If i do have to reinstall how do i get the whole drive allocated?
Thanks in advance for your help


I would buy software to partition the 66GB you have left. I like
Partition Magic personally but, there are others available perhaps for
less money.
Good luck,
Rick
  #37  
Old June 18th 09, 09:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
db
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the instructions I provided
are accurate if the o.p. can
ascertain a method to
expand the system partition
or merge it,

like with a partitioning
program,

"you moron"!

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
db wrote:
you simply need to format
the unallocated space

then expand the system
partition.


Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and format a partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no
room in which to expand the system partition.

Stick with subjects you know, whatever those might be. It's certainly not computers.



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot


  #38  
Old June 18th 09, 09:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
db
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Default reinstall xp

the instructions I provided
are accurate if the o.p. can
ascertain a method to
expand the system partition
or merge it,

like with a partitioning
program,

"you moron"!

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
db wrote:
you simply need to format
the unallocated space

then expand the system
partition.


Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and format a partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no
room in which to expand the system partition.

Stick with subjects you know, whatever those might be. It's certainly not computers.



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot


  #39  
Old June 18th 09, 09:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
db
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not completely accurate.
the o.p. doesn't have to
buy a partitioning program.

its' cheaper just to start
over to reinstall the o.s.
on all or 50% of the disk
space or

"install the o.s. to
unallocated space"

the unallocated space
will get formatted one
way or another.

as usual, you are unable
to provide all the options
possible,

are you still an mvp?


--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
colleen wrote:
I installed win xp on a 80 gig drive but when i look at it under explorer it shows 7 gig when i look at it under disk management,
it shows 7 gig ntfs and 66 gig unallocated.
do I have to start all over again, and reinstall win xp or is there a way to keep the 7 gig of win xp and other programs but gain
use to the rest of the drive? If i do have to reinstall how do i get the whole drive allocated?
Thanks in advance for your help



There's nothing you can do with native WinXP tools, short of completely wiping the hard drive and starting afresh. You'll need to
acquire a 3rd party partition management utility to expand the system partition into the unallocated space.

For a fully functional, free, 30-day evaluation version, BootItNG can't be beat:

Terabyte Unlimited's BootItNG
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot


  #40  
Old June 18th 09, 09:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
db
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Posts: 1,586
Default reinstall xp

not completely accurate.
the o.p. doesn't have to
buy a partitioning program.

its' cheaper just to start
over to reinstall the o.s.
on all or 50% of the disk
space or

"install the o.s. to
unallocated space"

the unallocated space
will get formatted one
way or another.

as usual, you are unable
to provide all the options
possible,

are you still an mvp?


--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
colleen wrote:
I installed win xp on a 80 gig drive but when i look at it under explorer it shows 7 gig when i look at it under disk management,
it shows 7 gig ntfs and 66 gig unallocated.
do I have to start all over again, and reinstall win xp or is there a way to keep the 7 gig of win xp and other programs but gain
use to the rest of the drive? If i do have to reinstall how do i get the whole drive allocated?
Thanks in advance for your help



There's nothing you can do with native WinXP tools, short of completely wiping the hard drive and starting afresh. You'll need to
acquire a 3rd party partition management utility to expand the system partition into the unallocated space.

For a fully functional, free, 30-day evaluation version, BootItNG can't be beat:

Terabyte Unlimited's BootItNG
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot


  #41  
Old June 18th 09, 09:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
db
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Default reinstall xp

unfortunately, partition
manager has always
been unreliable and
not recommended.

but acronis disk director
seems to be the best
one around.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Rick" wrote in message ...
colleen wrote:
I installed win xp on a 80 gig drive but when i look at it under explorer it shows 7 gig when i look at it under disk management,
it shows 7 gig ntfs and 66 gig unallocated.
do I have to start all over again, and reinstall win xp or is there a way to keep the 7 gig of win xp and other programs but gain
use to the rest of the drive? If i do have to reinstall how do i get the whole drive allocated?
Thanks in advance for your help


I would buy software to partition the 66GB you have left. I like Partition Magic personally but, there are others available
perhaps for less money.
Good luck,
Rick


  #42  
Old June 18th 09, 09:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
db
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,586
Default reinstall xp

unfortunately, partition
manager has always
been unreliable and
not recommended.

but acronis disk director
seems to be the best
one around.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Rick" wrote in message ...
colleen wrote:
I installed win xp on a 80 gig drive but when i look at it under explorer it shows 7 gig when i look at it under disk management,
it shows 7 gig ntfs and 66 gig unallocated.
do I have to start all over again, and reinstall win xp or is there a way to keep the 7 gig of win xp and other programs but gain
use to the rest of the drive? If i do have to reinstall how do i get the whole drive allocated?
Thanks in advance for your help


I would buy software to partition the 66GB you have left. I like Partition Magic personally but, there are others available
perhaps for less money.
Good luck,
Rick


  #43  
Old June 19th 09, 02:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Bill in Co.
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Posts: 3,106
Default reinstall xp

Better keep working on that Zen and nirvana. You still have a LONG ways
to go, bubba.

db wrote:
the instructions I provided
are accurate if the o.p. can
ascertain a method to
expand the system partition
or merge it,

like with a partitioning
program,

"you moron"!

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
db wrote:
you simply need to format
the unallocated space

then expand the system
partition.


Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and format a
partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no room in which
to
expand the system partition. Stick with subjects you know, whatever those
might be. It's certainly not
computers. --

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would
rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed
a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot



  #44  
Old June 19th 09, 02:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Bill in Co.
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Posts: 3,106
Default reinstall xp

Better keep working on that Zen and nirvana. You still have a LONG ways
to go, bubba.

db wrote:
the instructions I provided
are accurate if the o.p. can
ascertain a method to
expand the system partition
or merge it,

like with a partitioning
program,

"you moron"!

db·´¯`·...¸)))º
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen




"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
db wrote:
you simply need to format
the unallocated space

then expand the system
partition.


Er...., completely wrong order. If the OP were to create and format a
partition in the unallocated space, there'd clearly be no room in which
to
expand the system partition. Stick with subjects you know, whatever those
might be. It's certainly not
computers. --

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would
rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed
a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot



  #45  
Old June 19th 09, 03:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Bruce Chambers
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Posts: 6,208
Default reinstall xp

db wrote:
not completely accurate.



Are you actually that stupid, or is this a deliberate lie?

the o.p. doesn't have to
buy a partitioning program.



Of course not. That's why I recommended a free solution. You need to
work on your reading comprehension, as well as your so far pitiful
knowledge of computers.


its' cheaper just to start
over to reinstall the o.s.



That would depend on whether or not the OP's time is less valuable than
the free solution I offered, wouldn't it?





--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 




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