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Old June 20th 09, 07:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
vijayid_94
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Default System Hang...problem is HDD or OS.


hello
what can i do my pc have a hang problem.
when i start my pc it can run for some time(20-30 min) then it will
became hang. even alt+ctrl+del key will not work when it become hang. a
person told me to format the pc & load the window again . i does this
but still it have same problem.please tell me a solution for this

my pc confrigration is
intel p-4 3.0ghz processer
1.5gb rab
320gb hard disk
win xp sp2 also win xp sp3


please send ur sol. on this



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Old June 20th 09, 09:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Paul
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Default System Hang...problem is HDD or OS.

vijayid_94 wrote:
hello
what can i do my pc have a hang problem.
when i start my pc it can run for some time(20-30 min) then it will
became hang. even alt+ctrl+del key will not work when it become hang. a
person told me to format the pc & load the window again . i does this
but still it have same problem.please tell me a solution for this

my pc confrigration is
intel p-4 3.0ghz processer
1.5gb rab
320gb hard disk
win xp sp2 also win xp sp3


please send ur sol. on this




If the computer will run for 20 or 30 minutes, you have plenty of
time to run tests.

1) Memtest86+ from memtest.org
This is a bootable test program, which needs no OS. It tests the memory.
Run it for two complete passes. It should not take more than 2 hours.
*No* errors are acceptable. If there are errors, you need to
improve that aspect of your computer.

2) Hard drive diagnostic. Seagate, for example, provides "Seatools for DOS",
which again, is a bootable test tool. You can run a test on the
320GB drive, and see if it is healthy.

The above tests can also be left running longer. It would be
interesting to see if those tests, can run longer than 20-30 minutes.

3) You can run Prime95 in Windows as a stress test.

http://majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html

When asked to "Join GIMPS", respond "I'm just stress testing"
and use the software to test your CPU and memory. Again, this
test will perform two functions. If your CPU is stable, the
test will continue to run with no stops or errors reported.
If the test runs past the 20-30 minute point, that may also
tell you something.

Start with some tests, and see how your hardware responds.

Freezing or rebooting problems can be difficult to
diagnose, because they typically leave no trace
afterwards, as to what has happened. You may not
find anything in the Event Viewer. So you have to
devise other tests as a substitute.

While this is a large download, you can also try booting
a Linux LiveCD. And see if it lasts longer than 20-30 minutes.

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html

KNOPPIX_V6.0.1CD-2009-02-08-EN.iso 660558 KB (ISO9660, burn a CD with Nero)
KNOPPIX_V6.0.1CD-2009-02-08-EN.iso.md5 1 KB (checksum)

That CD, when it boots, looks like this.

http://www.lidux.de/images/desktops/knoppix-60-250.jpg

You can even get a copy of Prime95 that runs under Linux,
so once Knoppix 6.0.1 is booted, you can use the built-in
browser, to visit mersenne.org and get Prime95.

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

http://mersenneforum.org/gimps/mprime259.tar.gz

( gzip -c -d mprime259.tar.gz | tar xf -
Then execute the 4MB "mprime" file. )

HTH,
Paul
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Old June 20th 09, 10:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Markmckee601
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Default System Hang...problem is HDD or OS.

Paul wrote:
vijayid_94 wrote:
hello
what can i do my pc have a hang problem. when i start my pc it can
run for some time(20-30 min) then it will
became hang. even alt+ctrl+del key will not work when it become hang. a
person told me to format the pc & load the window again . i does this
but still it have same problem.please tell me a solution for this

my pc confrigration is intel p-4 3.0ghz processer
1.5gb rab
320gb hard disk
win xp sp2 also win xp sp3


please send ur sol. on this




If the computer will run for 20 or 30 minutes, you have plenty of
time to run tests.

1) Memtest86+ from memtest.org
This is a bootable test program, which needs no OS. It tests the
memory.
Run it for two complete passes. It should not take more than 2 hours.
*No* errors are acceptable. If there are errors, you need to
improve that aspect of your computer.

2) Hard drive diagnostic. Seagate, for example, provides "Seatools for
DOS",
which again, is a bootable test tool. You can run a test on the
320GB drive, and see if it is healthy.

The above tests can also be left running longer. It would be
interesting to see if those tests, can run longer than 20-30 minutes.

3) You can run Prime95 in Windows as a stress test.

http://majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html

When asked to "Join GIMPS", respond "I'm just stress testing"
and use the software to test your CPU and memory. Again, this
test will perform two functions. If your CPU is stable, the
test will continue to run with no stops or errors reported.
If the test runs past the 20-30 minute point, that may also
tell you something.

Start with some tests, and see how your hardware responds.

Freezing or rebooting problems can be difficult to
diagnose, because they typically leave no trace
afterwards, as to what has happened. You may not
find anything in the Event Viewer. So you have to
devise other tests as a substitute.

While this is a large download, you can also try booting
a Linux LiveCD. And see if it lasts longer than 20-30 minutes.

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html

KNOPPIX_V6.0.1CD-2009-02-08-EN.iso 660558 KB (ISO9660, burn a
CD with Nero)
KNOPPIX_V6.0.1CD-2009-02-08-EN.iso.md5 1 KB (checksum)

That CD, when it boots, looks like this.

http://www.lidux.de/images/desktops/knoppix-60-250.jpg

You can even get a copy of Prime95 that runs under Linux,
so once Knoppix 6.0.1 is booted, you can use the built-in
browser, to visit mersenne.org and get Prime95.

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

http://mersenneforum.org/gimps/mprime259.tar.gz

( gzip -c -d mprime259.tar.gz | tar xf -
Then execute the 4MB "mprime" file. )

HTH,
Paul

Before you do anything, backup!

I would recommend booting from a linux live cd or from a usb flash drive
and backup to another hard drive, pc or removeable media such as
cd-r/dvd+/-r.

If you have two cd/dvd drives, a writer and a ROM, boot the live cd from
the ROM and you can use the writer while booted to the live cd.

If you only have one drive there are a few distributions that can be
loaded into ram e.g.

DSL (Damn Small Linux) www.*damnsmalllinux*.org/
Puppy Linux www.*puppylinux*.org/

I use linux quite a lot, especially for stress testing and diagnosing
hardware problems.
I think that UBCD might be a better choice in this case as it is more
user friendly. It has a collection of tools for testing hard drives, ram
(memtest86+) and other components.

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

I also agree with Paul about booting from a linux live cd as it can rule
out a windows problem.

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CompTIA A+ Certified www.comptie.org
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Old June 20th 09, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Gerry
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Default System Hang...problem is HDD or OS.

Is your system error free?

Are there any other Warning or Error reports in the System or
Application logs in Event Viewer during the last 48 hours?

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

When did you last run Disk CleanUp and Disk Defragmenter? How much free
disk space as a % is your C partition?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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vijayid_94 wrote:
hello
what can i do my pc have a hang problem.
when i start my pc it can run for some time(20-30 min) then it will
became hang. even alt+ctrl+del key will not work when it become
hang. a person told me to format the pc & load the window again . i
does this but still it have same problem.please tell me a solution
for this

my pc confrigration is
intel p-4 3.0ghz processer
1.5gb rab
320gb hard disk
win xp sp2 also win xp sp3


please send ur sol. on this


 




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