External Hard drive purchase ?

Roger wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ...
Roger wrote:

Paul thank for your most detailed reply which I try to absorb. I'm not
worried about getting inside PC as I often clean there and have changed
the Ram. My board is K7s5a ECS I have the manual stored in My docs in
adobe PDF but are unable to sort out getting you a picture link of
mainboard. Looking at board it shows 5 PCI slots This was a made up PC.
Looking at the back of unit one of those slots is housing four USB ports
this must have been added later on an upgrade.as on drawing it only shows
one usb1 next to fp audio,woL1,FP1, SPK1, etc . I have 3 of those slots
still with the blank fitted.

Roger
I have a K7S5A manual on disk here. (I download a lot of different
manuals,
so I have a small collection.)

There are two USB ports in your I/O area.

If you already have a PCI USB card, you should check Device Manager in
WinXP,
and look for the word "Enhanced" in the USB section. The technique of
checking
for USB2 is described in the link below.

So it could be, you already have USB2 and it might be on that PCI card.

If you're not seeing Enhanced, then perhaps the purchase of another card
would help.

I have a really old PCI USB card, which has USB 1.1 ports only on it,
so it isn't guaranteed that your PCI USB card is USB2. But if you check
Device Manager, you may be able to save yourself $10.

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/checking_for_usb_2.htm

"NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller (B1)"

That is an example of what is coming from a PCI USB2 card with a
NEC chip on it. So that machine has USB2 capability.



Paul It looks a basic set to me, e.g. showing 1 Logitech Camera, 1
Generic USB hub, 4 Lucent QuadraBus host Controller, 2 SIS 7001 PCI to USB
host, 6 USB Root Hub.

Roger

According to this page...

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/HowTo_I...Controller.htm

the SIS7001 has this as its major entry. I can't tell if one or
two USB Root Hub entries go with that.

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/HowTo_1.jpg

SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller

Perhaps the Lucent QuadraBus is your PCI card ?

Wow, they even have the Lucent Quadrabus as well. The text
below the picture indicates which entries belong to it.

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/HowTo_8.gif

Lucent USB Open Host Controller (x4)
USB Root Hub (x4)

So that seems to account for your entries. A Brazilian web page
is still selling a QuadraBus card, and their advert mentions "1.1",
so chances are that card is a slow one.

Looks like you'll need to fork out that $10 after all :-)

If you're not using the QuadraBus for anything, you could
even pull it, and put the USB2 card in its place.

Paul

"Paul" wrote in message ...
Roger wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ...
Roger wrote:

Paul thank for your most detailed reply which I try to absorb. I'm not
worried about getting inside PC as I often clean there and have changed
the Ram. My board is K7s5a ECS I have the manual stored in My docs in
adobe PDF but are unable to sort out getting you a picture link of
mainboard. Looking at board it shows 5 PCI slots This was a made up
PC. Looking at the back of unit one of those slots is housing four USB
ports this must have been added later on an upgrade.as on drawing it
only shows one usb1 next to fp audio,woL1,FP1, SPK1, etc . I have 3 of
those slots still with the blank fitted.

Roger
I have a K7S5A manual on disk here. (I download a lot of different
manuals,
so I have a small collection.)

There are two USB ports in your I/O area.

If you already have a PCI USB card, you should check Device Manager in
WinXP,
and look for the word "Enhanced" in the USB section. The technique of
checking
for USB2 is described in the link below.

So it could be, you already have USB2 and it might be on that PCI card.

If you're not seeing Enhanced, then perhaps the purchase of another card
would help.

I have a really old PCI USB card, which has USB 1.1 ports only on it,
so it isn't guaranteed that your PCI USB card is USB2. But if you check
Device Manager, you may be able to save yourself $10.

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/checking_for_usb_2.htm

"NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller (B1)"

That is an example of what is coming from a PCI USB2 card with a
NEC chip on it. So that machine has USB2 capability.



Paul It looks a basic set to me, e.g. showing 1 Logitech Camera, 1
Generic USB hub, 4 Lucent QuadraBus host Controller, 2 SIS 7001 PCI to
USB host, 6 USB Root Hub.

Roger

According to this page...

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/HowTo_I...Controller.htm

the SIS7001 has this as its major entry. I can't tell if one or
two USB Root Hub entries go with that.

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/HowTo_1.jpg

SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller

Perhaps the Lucent QuadraBus is your PCI card ?

Wow, they even have the Lucent Quadrabus as well. The text
below the picture indicates which entries belong to it.

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/HowTo_8.gif

Lucent USB Open Host Controller (x4)
USB Root Hub (x4)

So that seems to account for your entries. A Brazilian web page
is still selling a QuadraBus card, and their advert mentions "1.1",
so chances are that card is a slow one.

Looks like you'll need to fork out that $10 after all :-)

If you're not using the QuadraBus for anything, you could
even pull it, and put the USB2 card in its place.

Paul

Could the Lucent be my 4 port hub which is mounted on desk, and connected in
back of Pc via usb port ? this is shown as a 1.1 on unit ?

Roger wrote:

Could the Lucent be my 4 port hub which is mounted on desk, and connected in
back of Pc via usb port ? this is shown as a 1.1 on unit ?


The quickest way to verify what chip is on your current add-in
card, is to pull the side off the computer and look.

*******

If you want to play around some more, try Everest (free edition).
Look in the "Devices : PCI devices" section, and see what is listed there.

http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

I don't know of any software tools, that make it particularly
easy to verify what hardware is inside the computer. Virtually
all of them require interpretation.

To give an example, I have a couple PCI cards installed right now.
This is what Everest reports.

Device Properties:
Device Description C-Media CMI8738/C3DX Audio Device
Bus Type PCI
Bus / Device / Function 3 / 7 / 0
Device ID 13F6-0111
Subsystem ID 13F6-0111
Device Class 0401 (Audio Device)
Revision 10
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions Not Supported

Device Properties:
Device Description Promise PDC20269 Ultra133 TX2 Bus Master IDE Controller
Bus Type PCI
Bus / Device / Function 3 / 6 / 0
Device ID 105A-4D69
Subsystem ID 105A-4D68
Device Class 0180 (Mass Storage Controller)
Revision 02
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions Not Supported

If you look at the Bus / Device / Function, you can tell they're
on the same bus segment.

My AGP video card is on a different bus segment. And that bus segment is AGP.
The bus number is one, in this case.

Device Properties:
Device Description ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Video Adapter
Bus Type AGP 8x
Bus / Device / Function 1 / 0 / 0
Device ID 1002-4E48
Subsystem ID 1002-0002
Device Class 0300 (VGA Display Controller)
Revision 00
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions Supported, Disabled

So Everest can give you a pile of stuff to look at. If you use the
"Report Wizard", you can create reams of data for examination with
a text editor.

And if Everest can't identify a piece of hardware, you can use the
Device ID field and then look up the device in question here. I picked
a couple of lines out of the file, which correspond to my sound card.
You can see how the Everest value of 13F6-0111, looks in this file.
The first chunk of digits is the VID or Vendor ID. The second set
is the PID or Product ID. This is how I might figure out I need
a CM8738 driver.

http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids

13f6 C-Media Electronics Inc
0111 CM8738

Paul