Conundrum!

Hello!

A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA

David_B wrote:
Hello!

A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA

I think I've seen this movie before.

1) Boater Dave breaks into server, posing as "Aunt Matilda".
2) Gets kicked to curb with a quick TOS.
3) Dusts self off and GOTO1.

What more can we say really ?

Username: RexTheWonderPony
Password: NoItsReallyNotDaveAgainItsDavesAuntMatilda

Paul

On 02/08/2020 09:28, Paul wrote:
David_B wrote:
Hello!

A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA

I think I've seen this movie before.

1) Boater Dave breaks into server, posing as "Aunt Matilda".
2) Gets kicked to curb with a quick TOS.
3) Dusts self off and GOTO1.

What more can we say really ?

Username: RexTheWonderPony
Password: NoItsReallyNotDaveAgainItsDavesAuntMatilda

Â*Â* Paul


That's a good response, Paul! :-D

Sadly, though, your answer is not going to help my friend!

*HOW* does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Stay safe!

"David_B" wrote:
On 02/08/2020 09:28, Paul wrote:
David_B wrote:
A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA

I think I've seen this movie before.

1) Boater Dave breaks into server, posing as "Aunt Matilda".
2) Gets kicked to curb with a quick TOS.
3) Dusts self off and GOTO1.

What more can we say really ?

Username: RexTheWonderPony
Password: NoItsReallyNotDaveAgainItsDavesAuntMatilda

That's a good response, Paul! :-D

Brilliant! He "knows you of old" if you get my drift.

On 02/08/2020 11:12, Apd wrote:
"David_B" wrote:
On 02/08/2020 09:28, Paul wrote:
David_B wrote:
A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA

I think I've seen this movie before.

1) Boater Dave breaks into server, posing as "Aunt Matilda".
2) Gets kicked to curb with a quick TOS.
3) Dusts self off and GOTO1.

What more can we say really ?

Username: RexTheWonderPony
Password: NoItsReallyNotDaveAgainItsDavesAuntMatilda

That's a good response, Paul! :-D

Brilliant! He "knows you of old" if you get my drift.

Indeed! :-D He's one of the most honest and helpful guys on the Usenet.

Paul has a great sense of humour and I TRUST him!

Can *YOU* answer my question?

*HOW* does one obtain a username and password for the Dogagent newsgroups?

On 2020-08-02 3:28 a.m., Paul wrote:
David_B wrote:
Hello!

A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA

I think I've seen this movie before.

1) Boater Dave breaks into server, posing as "Aunt Matilda".
2) Gets kicked to curb with a quick TOS.
3) Dusts self off and GOTO1.

What more can we say really ?

Username: RexTheWonderPony
Password: NoItsReallyNotDaveAgainItsDavesAuntMatilda

Â*Â* Paul

Large buttered Popcorn please. :-)

Rene

David_B posted this via news:10uVG.276577
:

Hello!

A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA


Sounds like DogAgent.com is filtering your "friend" by their IP address...

Did "they" already try using a VPN?

LOL!

See this [2016] link for further enlightenment:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...op/u8iYNCoMrLc

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Resolve conflicts the American way :

Rock - Paper - Scissors - Riot, Loot, and Burn 'til you get your way

.... and I approve this message!

Rene Lamontagne gaytarded this mediocre snark:

Large buttered Popcorn please. :-)

Rene


Answers the lingering question "How does s/he shove all those popcorn kernels
up his illiterate old arse?"


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Resolve conflicts the American way :

Rock - Paper - Scissors - Democrat-Controlled Hearing and ****show

.... and I approve this message!

David_B wrote:
*HOW* does one obtain a username and password for the Dogagent newsgroups?

Yours is an insincere/ bogus question.

You are already quite familiar w/ the machinations of dogagent and
myplugbox news servers. They are privately run, and somewhat 'similar'
to that of the usenet server eternal-september, there are groups which
are accessible w/o user/pass which at e-s are e-s support groups. In
the case of e-s, access to all of the OTHER general usenet groups is
accomplished 'simply' thru' proper free registration at e-s.

In the case of dogagent/myplugbox-type private/public news servers, the
process is more 'personal' (as opposed to largely automated) in which a
person who has admin privileges to the server has direct communication
w/ the party (such as by email) who is wishing to have a user/pass for a
particular group or 'collection' of groups.

As you well know, you aren't welcome to have such a user/pass on those
servers, so it isn't appropriate for you to be trying to figure out how
some alleged friend should go about doing it.

--
Mike Easter

On 02/08/2020 23:26, Mike Easter wrote:
David_B wrote:
*HOW* does one obtain a username and password for the Dogagent
newsgroups?

Yours is an insincere/ bogus question.

You are already quite familiar w/ the machinations of dogagent and
myplugbox news servers.Â* They are privately run, and somewhat 'similar'
to that of the usenet server eternal-september, there are groups which
are accessible w/o user/pass which at e-s are e-s support groups.Â* In
the case of e-s, access to all of the OTHER general usenet groups is
accomplished 'simply' thru' proper free registration at e-s.

In the case of dogagent/myplugbox-type private/public news servers, the
process is more 'personal' (as opposed to largely automated) in which a
person who has admin privileges to the server has direct communication
w/ the party (such as by email) who is wishing to have a user/pass for a
particular group or 'collection' of groups.

ALL the dogagent newsgroups are open to the public. NONE of them require
a username/password to participate. FromTheRafters can confirm that!

As you well know, you aren't welcome to have such a user/pass on those
servers, so it isn't appropriate for you to be trying to figure out how
some alleged friend should go about doing it.

I'd like to know the *technical mechanism* whereby a server owner can
trigger the username/password request in Thunderbird. It happens that
way with Eternal-September if one doesn't register, but there is NO
registration method/requirement @ Dogagent.com

On 02/08/2020 17:21, Bucky Breeder wrote:
David_B posted this via news:10uVG.276577
:

Hello!

A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA


Sounds like DogAgent.com is filtering your "friend" by their IP address...

Did "they" already try using a VPN?

No. Few women have even heard of the term, let alone use one! ;-)

LOL!

See this [2016] link for further enlightenment:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...op/u8iYNCoMrLc


Good find, BB! ;-)

Is it EVERYONE in the UK who cannot access the Dogagent newsgroups?

Do you know how to find the answer to THIS question?!!!

David_B wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
David_B wrote:
*HOW* does one obtain a username and password for the Dogagent
newsgroups?

Yours is an insincere/ bogus question.

In the case of dogagent/myplugbox-type private/public news servers,
the process is more 'personal' (as opposed to largely automated) in
which a person who has admin privileges to the server has direct
communication w/ the party (such as by email) who is wishing to have a
user/pass for a particular group or 'collection' of groups.

ALL the dogagent newsgroups are open to the public. NONE of them require
a username/password to participate.

That is not correct.

While I don't personally participate in private groups on the dogagent
server, I 'can tell' that they exist, eg the pizzazz groups.

FromTheRafters can confirm that!

I have no idea what FTR can or cannot 'confirm'. You are here; I am
here, and we are talking about what you and I think, not what FTR thinks
or you think he thinks.

I'd like to know the *technical mechanism* whereby a server owner can
trigger the username/password request in Thunderbird. It happens that
way with Eternal-September if one doesn't register, but there is NO
registration method/requirement @ Dogagent.com

I'll explain how it works at e-s because I'm more familiar w/ it.

If a non-registrant accesses the e-s server and gets the ng list, that
list consists of the e-s support groups. That non-reg can not only
read, but also post to the e-s support groups. When s/he does, their
m-id is characterized differently than a reg'd poster.

If a registered user accesses the e-s server w/ Tb, s/he should
configure Tb to always request authentication. Then when the properly
authenticated user (w/ reg'd user/pass) accesses the server and gets the
ng list, then that list contains ALL the usenet groups, not just the e-s
support ones.

And when such a reg'd user posts a msg, the nature of the default m-id
is different from that of a non-reg'd user to the support groups. Also,
a reg'd user can configure for some 'personalization' of the m-id via
the cooperation of the e-s admin and the ability of the reg'd users
client to perform its own m-id which Tb is not.

As usual/common for you, you are VERY very off-topic in this Win10
group. This has NOTHING to do w/ win10.


--
Mike Easter

On 03/08/2020 00:17, Mike Easter wrote:
David_B wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
David_B wrote:
*HOW* does one obtain a username and password for the Dogagent
newsgroups?

Yours is an insincere/ bogus question.

In the case of dogagent/myplugbox-type private/public news servers,
the process is more 'personal' (as opposed to largely automated) in
which a person who has admin privileges to the server has direct
communication w/ the party (such as by email) who is wishing to have
a user/pass for a particular group or 'collection' of groups.

ALL the dogagent newsgroups are open to the public. NONE of them
require a username/password to participate.

That is not correct.

While I don't personally participate in private groups on the dogagent
server, I 'can tell' that they exist, eg the pizzazz groups.

The Pizzazz group is SECRET! ;-)

FromTheRafters can confirm that!

I have no idea what FTR can or cannot 'confirm'.Â* You are here; I am
here, and we are talking about what you and I think, not what FTR thinks
or you think he thinks.

FTR *IS* a participant on the Dogagent groups.

I'd like to know the *technical mechanism* whereby a server owner can
trigger the username/password request in Thunderbird. It happens that
way with Eternal-September if one doesn't register, but there is NO
registration method/requirement @ Dogagent.com

I'll explain how it works at e-s because I'm more familiar w/ it.

If a non-registrant accesses the e-s server and gets the ng list, that
list consists of the e-s support groups.Â* That non-reg can not only
read, but also post to the e-s support groups.Â* When s/he does, their
m-id is characterized differently than a reg'd poster.

If a registered user accesses the e-s server w/ Tb, s/he should
configure Tb to always request authentication.Â* Then when the properly
authenticated user (w/ reg'd user/pass) accesses the server and gets the
ng list, then that list contains ALL the usenet groups, not just the e-s
support ones.

Agreed.

And when such a reg'd user posts a msg, the nature of the default m-id
is different from that of a non-reg'd user to the support groups.Â* Also,
a reg'd user can configure for some 'personalization' of the m-id via
the cooperation of the e-s admin and the ability of the reg'd users
client to perform its own m-id which Tb is not.

That is *NOT* how it works at Dogagent.

Registration is *NOT* required.

As usual/common for you, you are VERY very off-topic in this Win10
group.Â* This has NOTHING to do w/ win10.

This is about THUNDERBIRD!

Lot's of people using Windows 10 use Thunderbird to read and post on Usenet!

My friend in the USA does NOT see any request for a username/password.

--
ACW added

David_B wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
David_B wrote:

ALL the dogagent newsgroups are open to the public. NONE of them
require a username/password to participate.

That is not correct.

While I don't personally participate in private groups on the dogagent
server, I 'can tell' that they exist, eg the pizzazz groups.

The Pizzazz group is SECRET! ;-)

When one accesses dogagent w/o user/pass, they only see the public ng/s
in the same manner that one only sees the support ng/s at e-s.

FTR *IS* a participant on the Dogagent groups.

FTR posts on a public dogagent photo group. Perhaps he doesn't know
about the private groups.

That is *NOT* how it works at Dogagent.

The public dogagent groups work like the 'public' (non-reg'd) ng/s at
e-s. The process for acquiring credentials for accessing those private
groups at dogagent is different from acquiring credentials for accessing
the general usenet ng/s at e-s.

Registration is *NOT* required.

There is not a 'registration' process in the same manner as e-s, but
there is a 'credentialling' process to access dogagent's private groups.
For all I know, there may be different credentials for different
private groups.

If you don't have credentials, you don't access them; just like at e-s,
if you don't have credentials, you don't access the usenet groups which
aren't e-s support.

As usual/common for you, you are VERY very off-topic in this Win10
group.Â* This has NOTHING to do w/ win10.

This is about THUNDERBIRD!

Actually, it is about you trying to find out how to run a public-private
news server, which is not about Tb OR Win 10.

Lot's of people using Windows 10 use Thunderbird to read and post on
Usenet!

That does not make your msg content apply to Tb or Win10.

My friend in the USA does NOT see any request for a username/password.

If you access e-s w/o configuring to always authenticate, then you ALSO
won't see any request for credentials, but you will only get a limited
ng list for e-s support.

When the client doesn't see (all) the ng/s on a news server, then they
don't try to access the 'invisible' *private* groups which require
credentials.

--
Mike Easter

On 02/08/2020 23:57, David_B wrote:
On 02/08/2020 17:21, Bucky Breeder wrote:
David_B posted this via news:10uVG.276577
:

Hello!

A friend is having difficulty signing up to newsgroups on the
Dogagent.com server.

This a screenshot of the message shown on-screen.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4qn6mTl

How does one obtain a username and password for the newsgroups?

Any ideas? TIA


Sounds like DogAgent.com is filtering your "friend" by their IP
address...

Did "they" already try using a VPN?

No. Few women have even heard of the term, let alone use one! ;-)

LOL!

See this [2016] link for further enlightenment:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...op/u8iYNCoMrLc


Good find, BB! ;-)

Is it EVERYONE in the UK who cannot access the Dogagent newsgroups?

Do you know how to find the answer to THIS question?!!!

*HOW* does one obtain a username and password for the *Private* Dogagent
newsgroups?