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Why is turning on the computer so hard. Do you have a remedy?
The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email
address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? |
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Why is turning on the computer so hard. Do you have a remedy?
On 2020-08-08 16:48, micky wrote:
The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? Hi Micky, When I do a new instillation of Windows 10, I do not connect to the Internet until after I create the user account. I would recommend you go into setting and create a new user and be careful to select an off line account (small print at the bottom). Then delete the weird account. I do this for my customers a lot. If you don't give the new user a password, and it is the only user account, it should bypass the log on screen. If not, ping me and I will give you the registry settings. If you give me the user name, I will create a .reg for you. -T |
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The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. Just say No, Micky. |
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Why is turning on the computer so hard. Do you have a remedy?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:38:27 -0700, T
wrote: On 2020-08-08 16:48, micky wrote: The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? Hi Micky, When I do a new instillation of Windows 10, I do not connect to the Internet until after I create the user account. Ah! I would recommend you go into setting and create a new user I'll get it done, but worth saying that after running FFox for 4 hours, trying to create a new user,, just in Settings**, crashed the computer. I gotta buy another one. **I hadn't unplugged the internet so I was giving it a phony phone number. (That might not have been enough but I wanted to see and didn't want to get up.) 301-555-1212 is already in use so I was going back to choose a different area code and it crashed. and be careful to select an off line account (small print at the bottom). Then delete the weird account. I do this for my customers a lot. If you don't give the new user a password, and it is the only user account, it should bypass the log on screen. I'm glad to hear it. I thought they had become security-crazy. If not, ping me and I will give you the registry settings. If you give me the user name, I will create a .reg for you. Thank you. There's a good chance I'll buy another computer and sort of forget about this one, but OTOH, this one is sitting right in front of me. If I stick with this, I have to work on the crashing so it will be a while before I write you. That I can fix it is enough to make me happy. -T |
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On 2020-08-08 18:09, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:38:27 -0700, T wrote: On 2020-08-08 16:48, micky wrote: The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? Hi Micky, When I do a new instillation of Windows 10, I do not connect to the Internet until after I create the user account. Ah! I would recommend you go into setting and create a new user I'll get it done, but worth saying that after running FFox for 4 hours, trying to create a new user,, just in Settings**, crashed the computer. I gotta buy another one. **I hadn't unplugged the internet so I was giving it a phony phone number. (That might not have been enough but I wanted to see and didn't want to get up.) 301-555-1212 is already in use so I was going back to choose a different area code and it crashed. and be careful to select an off line account (small print at the bottom). Then delete the weird account. I do this for my customers a lot. If you don't give the new user a password, and it is the only user account, it should bypass the log on screen. I'm glad to hear it. I thought they had become security-crazy. If not, ping me and I will give you the registry settings. If you give me the user name, I will create a .reg for you. Thank you. There's a good chance I'll buy another computer and sort of forget about this one, but OTOH, this one is sitting right in front of me. If I stick with this, I have to work on the crashing so it will be a while before I write you. That I can fix it is enough to make me happy. -T Hi Micky, From what you describe, there is definitely a hardware issue. Lenovo makes some reasonable quality desktops. Don't forget to look at "ultra wide monitors". And make sure you specify an NVMe drive that is twice the size that you think you will ever use. I go for Intel processors as AMD motherboards are really cheap. Processor seems okay, but only if you go for a decent quality after market motherboard. :-) -T |
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 21:09:28 -0400, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 8 Aug 2020 17:38:27 -0700, T wrote: On 2020-08-08 16:48, micky wrote: The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? Hi Micky, When I do a new instillation of Windows 10, I do not connect to the Internet until after I create the user account. Ah! I would recommend you go into setting and create a new user I'll get it done, but worth saying that after running FFox for 4 hours, trying to create a new user,, just in Settings**, crashed the computer. I gotta buy another one. **I hadn't unplugged the internet so I was giving it a phony phone number. (That might not have been enough but I wanted to see and didn't want to get up.) 301-555-1212 is already in use so I was going back to choose a different area code and it crashed. 555-1212 should be in use for every area code, no? Anyway, back in the day all the cool kids used to use 867-5309. Ask for Jenny. and be careful to select an off line account (small print at the bottom). Then delete the weird account. I do this for my customers a lot. If you don't give the new user a password, and it is the only user account, it should bypass the log on screen. I'm glad to hear it. I thought they had become security-crazy. If not, ping me and I will give you the registry settings. If you give me the user name, I will create a .reg for you. Thank you. There's a good chance I'll buy another computer and sort of forget about this one, but OTOH, this one is sitting right in front of me. If I stick with this, I have to work on the crashing so it will be a while before I write you. That I can fix it is enough to make me happy. -T |
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micky wrote:
I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? No, but you have to make sure it doesn't have access to a functioning internet connection during install ... e.g give it your password to wifi then at the stage it wants a microsoft account turn off your router. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 08 Aug 2020 23:50:41 -0500, Char
Jackson wrote: On 2020-08-08 16:48, micky wrote: The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? Hi Micky, When I do a new instillation of Windows 10, I do not connect to the Internet until after I create the user account. Ah! I would recommend you go into setting and create a new user I'll get it done, but worth saying that after running FFox for 4 hours, trying to create a new user,, just in Settings**, crashed the computer. I gotta buy another one. **I hadn't unplugged the internet so I was giving it a phony phone number. (That might not have been enough but I wanted to see and didn't want to get up.) 301-555-1212 is already in use so I was going back to choose a different area code and it crashed. 555-1212 should be in use for every area code, no? I thought it meant by a MS customer. Anyway, back in the day all the cool kids used to use 867-5309. Ask for Jenny. I'll call but I hear even Loni Anderson is 75 years old. |
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micky wrote:
The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? There seem to be reports of more aggressive behavior, for situations where it looks like a new install to a computer which has never had a Windows on it. Seems a bit more grouchy. As has been mentioned multiple times in the thread, disconnecting the network connection takes some of the steam out of the behavior. However, I think I've seen one case here, where the little ****er was willing to "wait forever" for the network cable to come back! I was not able to make forward progress in that case, and just abandoned the attempt (threw away install). It's also possible we're seeing some A/B behaviors, where two people having done identical things, receive different outcomes. I'm not really keeping careful notes on the topic, because it's "flush-a-bye" time if it gets insistent like that. But in the past, removing the network cable seemed to be enough. Subject to the latest twists and turns. You should be able to do a new install without a network cable. Or, you can let it "Check for something new at Microsoft", then pull the network cable slightly later. You also have the option of installing an older version, then do an Upgrade Install, as a means to finding the button to do a first setup the way you want it. You're a Windows user, you must be used to this by now. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...SuccessKid.jpg No, I won't be creating a PIN out of frustration, taking Hello pictures of my face, mailing blood samples to the Microsoft lab. Not gunna happen. Paul |
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 01:26:46 -0400, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 08 Aug 2020 23:50:41 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On 2020-08-08 16:48, micky wrote: The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? Hi Micky, When I do a new instillation of Windows 10, I do not connect to the Internet until after I create the user account. Ah! I would recommend you go into setting and create a new user I'll get it done, but worth saying that after running FFox for 4 hours, trying to create a new user,, just in Settings**, crashed the computer. I gotta buy another one. **I hadn't unplugged the internet so I was giving it a phony phone number. (That might not have been enough but I wanted to see and didn't want to get up.) 301-555-1212 is already in use so I was going back to choose a different area code and it crashed. 555-1212 should be in use for every area code, no? I thought it meant by a MS customer. No, it is/was directory assistance. Wikipedia says it's still operational nationwide but I haven't used it since at least the 80's. Anyway, back in the day all the cool kids used to use 867-5309. Ask for Jenny. I'll call but I hear even Loni Anderson is 75 years old. You recognized the song reference, I assume. |
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In message , micky
writes The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) Yes, it's extremely tedious. For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? The good news is that you don't need to enter the PIN for the booting-up process to carry on. Just leave the room as you always do, then when you come back make the PIN field show up and enter your PIN, and it will take you straight to the desk-top with everything fully booted. (Assuming that you left the room for long enough.) I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? I agree that it's annoying. I too live alone. It should be the user's choice how much security he or she wants, not Microsoft's. -- John Hall You can divide people into two categories: those who divide people into two categories and those who don't |
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On 2020-08-09 2:26 a.m., John Hall wrote:
In message , micky writes The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things.Â* Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin.Â* That is even worse.Â* Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code.Â* If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) Yes, it's extremely tedious. For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted.Â*Â* Now I have to be there to make the Pin field showÂ* up and then put in a pin,Â* Is there a way out of this? The good news is that you don't need to enter the PIN for the booting-up process to carry on. Just leave the room as you always do, then when you come back make the PIN field show up and enter your PIN, and it will take you straight to the desk-top with everything fully booted. (Assuming that you left the room for long enough.) I am so disgusted.Â*Â* I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow.Â*Â* 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office.Â* Why are they screwing with us? I agree that it's annoying. I too live alone. It should be the user's choice how much security he or she wants, not Microsoft's. I use netplwiz.exe and never have any log in requirements, just hit the on button and go. :-) Rene |
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On 09/08/2020 08.17, Paul wrote:
micky wrote: The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things.Â* Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin.Â* That is even worse.Â* Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code.Â* If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted.Â*Â* Now I have to be there to make the Pin field showÂ* up and then put in a pin,Â* Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted.Â*Â* I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow.Â*Â* 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office.Â* Why are they screwing with us? There seem to be reports of more aggressive behavior, for situations where it looks like a new install to a computer which has never had a Windows on it. Seems a bit more grouchy. As has been mentioned multiple times in the thread, disconnecting the network connection takes some of the steam out of the behavior. However, I think I've seen one case here, where the little ****er was willing to "wait forever" for the network cable to come back! I was not able to make forward progress in that case, and just abandoned the attempt (threw away install). Is it possible to boot the computer without an internet connection at all and create the login? No, I won't be creating a PIN out of frustration, taking Hello pictures of my face, mailing blood samples to the Microsoft lab. Not gunna happen. What's that pin for? Is it instead of a full password? -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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On 8/8/2020 11:59 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 01:26:46 -0400, micky wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 08 Aug 2020 23:50:41 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On 2020-08-08 16:48, micky wrote: The new installation of windows wanted my phone number, windows email address, or skype id. I dont' want to give it these things. Am I stuck? It also wanted me to make a 4-digit pin. That is even worse. Far worse. I made the pin, then read how to delete it and I deleted it, and it insisted I install another one next boot. (To do that I had to ggive it my MS password, then have it email me a code. If it didn't get the code quickly, and it didn't because MS was slow, I had to start again, including with the MS password. Unbelievable.) For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? I am so disgusted. I live alone and if I didn't I'd let my wife and probably the kids log on anyhow. 20 or 30% of the population either lives alone or has a private office. Why are they screwing with us? Hi Micky, When I do a new instillation of Windows 10, I do not connect to the Internet until after I create the user account. Ah! I would recommend you go into setting and create a new user I'll get it done, but worth saying that after running FFox for 4 hours, trying to create a new user,, just in Settings**, crashed the computer. I gotta buy another one. **I hadn't unplugged the internet so I was giving it a phony phone number. (That might not have been enough but I wanted to see and didn't want to get up.) 301-555-1212 is already in use so I was going back to choose a different area code and it crashed. 555-1212 should be in use for every area code, no? I thought it meant by a MS customer. No, it is/was directory assistance. Wikipedia says it's still operational nationwide but I haven't used it since at least the 80's. It hasn't been that long since I last used it, but it's been a very long time (so long that I had almost forgotten what 555-1212 was). I find it much easier to do a goggle search. -- Ken |
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On 8/8/2020 4:48 PM, micky wrote:
For 35 years, I've been able to turn on the computer, leave the room and when I come back, it's fully booted. Now I have to be there to make the Pin field show up and then put in a pin, Is there a way out of this? Yes. That's exactly what I still do. The PIN is entered automatically. See https://superuser.com/questions/1054...ws-10-with-pin -- Ken |
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