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I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host
computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. |
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NCBill wrote:
I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. I presume you're using ICS on the computer connected to the DSL modem via USB? What do you mean by "the network has quit functioning"? If you're using ICS, the host computer acts as a DHCP server and is supposed to give the client computer an IP address...check the event logs on the host computer. Personally, I hate ICS - I'd get a cheapo gateway appliance that can handle USB connections to the modem if there's no Ethernet port on the LAN side - and let it do DHCP, NAT. |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:53:14 -0500, NCBill *email_address_deleted* wrote:
I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. Bill, First, check the client computer for a Winsock problem. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318584 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811259 If it's running XP SP2, Start - Run - "cmd", and type "netsh winsock reset catalog" into the command window. Give LSP-Fix http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm, WinsockFix http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=257, or WinsockXPFix http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html a shot. If no help yet, reset TCP/IP on the client computer. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=299357 Start - Run - "cmd". Type "netsh int ip reset c:\netsh.txt" into the command window. What changes if any have been made to either computer just before this problem was observed? If no changes were made to cause this, then you need to check for a hardware problem. Either a bad network adapter on either computer, or a bad cross-over cable. And Bill, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the internet - read this article. http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Thanks for your reply.
What I mean by the network has quit functioning is that the client computer can no longer use the host printer, the client computer can't see an internet connection, and the client can't see shared files on the host. This happened with no apparent changes to either machine. One day it worked, the next, it didn't. I assume I am using ICS, as I have not added any networking features to the host computer. If the host is supposed to give the client an IP address, then why does it ask me for an address? Sounds as if I need to get a router and let both machines talk to the router through ethernet. Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: NCBill wrote: I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. I presume you're using ICS on the computer connected to the DSL modem via USB? What do you mean by "the network has quit functioning"? If you're using ICS, the host computer acts as a DHCP server and is supposed to give the client computer an IP address...check the event logs on the host computer. Personally, I hate ICS - I'd get a cheapo gateway appliance that can handle USB connections to the modem if there's no Ethernet port on the LAN side - and let it do DHCP, NAT. |
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Chuck,
Thanks for the advice - I assume the e-mail address is adequately munged now. I did not attempt direct changes to the registry through regedit, but did run netsh winsock reset catalog and netsh int ip reset. No joy. The host recognizes when the client is disconnected, but when it IS connected, won't make the connection - it just says "acquiring network address," so I can tell the host network card is probably functioning. I AM running norton firewall, but have disabled the one in SP2, and specifically listed file and printer sharing as exceptions and specifically disabled the firewall for connections to the client computer through the local area connection. I also tried using the network wizard to reestablish the network, but it ends with a message saying it failed, but that I might want to try manual configuration. In addition, I had this problem a few weeks ago when I acquired the modem - and it disappeared after I reset the network. Now it has returned, so I assume that the network card in the client is functioning, but that I am back to wherever I was the first time I tried to get the network up. Chuck wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:53:14 -0500, NCBill *email_address_deleted* wrote: I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. Bill, First, check the client computer for a Winsock problem. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318584 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811259 If it's running XP SP2, Start - Run - "cmd", and type "netsh winsock reset catalog" into the command window. Give LSP-Fix http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm, WinsockFix http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=257, or WinsockXPFix http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html a shot. If no help yet, reset TCP/IP on the client computer. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=299357 Start - Run - "cmd". Type "netsh int ip reset c:\netsh.txt" into the command window. What changes if any have been made to either computer just before this problem was observed? If no changes were made to cause this, then you need to check for a hardware problem. Either a bad network adapter on either computer, or a bad cross-over cable. And Bill, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the internet - read this article. http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm |
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"NCBill" wrote in message ... Chuck, Thanks for the advice - I assume the e-mail address is adequately munged now. I did not attempt direct changes to the registry through regedit, but did run netsh winsock reset catalog and netsh int ip reset. No joy. The host recognizes when the client is disconnected, but when it IS connected, won't make the connection - it just says "acquiring network address," so I can tell the host network card is probably functioning. I AM running norton firewall, but have disabled the one in SP2, and specifically listed file and printer sharing as exceptions and specifically disabled the firewall for connections to the client computer through the local area connection. I also tried using the network wizard to reestablish the network, but it ends with a message saying it failed, but that I might want to try manual configuration. In addition, I had this problem a few weeks ago when I acquired the modem - and it disappeared after I reset the network. Now it has returned, so I assume that the network card in the client is functioning, but that I am back to wherever I was the first time I tried to get the network up. Chuck wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:53:14 -0500, NCBill *email_address_deleted* wrote: I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. Bill, First, check the client computer for a Winsock problem. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318584 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811259 If it's running XP SP2, Start - Run - "cmd", and type "netsh winsock reset catalog" into the command window. Give LSP-Fix http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm, WinsockFix http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=257, or WinsockXPFix http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html a shot. If no help yet, reset TCP/IP on the client computer. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=299357 Start - Run - "cmd". Type "netsh int ip reset c:\netsh.txt" into the command window. What changes if any have been made to either computer just before this problem was observed? If no changes were made to cause this, then you need to check for a hardware problem. Either a bad network adapter on either computer, or a bad cross-over cable. And Bill, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the internet - read this article. http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm this might help you http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ |
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Thanks for the tip - I have now been to the site and I have more
questions. I was asked by another person if I am using ICS. From all that I can read, if I used the network setup wizard to configure the network, then I must be using ICS. HOWEVER, on one of these pages, I am instructed to find the file C:\windows\inf\ics.inf. This file does not exist on my computer, nor can I find any reference to the file on the Windows XP setup disk. Sooo, I have no idea whether I am using ICS and no idea how to find, use, modify or adjust ICS if I have it. Ideas? Haggis wrote: this might help you http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ |
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NCBill wrote:
Thanks for your reply. What I mean by the network has quit functioning is that the client computer can no longer use the host printer, the client computer can't see an internet connection, and the client can't see shared files on the host. This happened with no apparent changes to either machine. One day it worked, the next, it didn't. I assume I am using ICS, as I have not added any networking features to the host computer. If the host is supposed to give the client an IP address, then why does it ask me for an address? Sounds as if I need to get a router and let both machines talk to the router through ethernet. That's what I'd do, honestly - but see if the other replies help. If your 'client' computer isn't getting a DHCP address from the ICS box, it may not get one from a router, either - google for LSPFix and see if it helps. Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: NCBill wrote: I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. I presume you're using ICS on the computer connected to the DSL modem via USB? What do you mean by "the network has quit functioning"? If you're using ICS, the host computer acts as a DHCP server and is supposed to give the client computer an IP address...check the event logs on the host computer. Personally, I hate ICS - I'd get a cheapo gateway appliance that can handle USB connections to the modem if there's no Ethernet port on the LAN side - and let it do DHCP, NAT. |
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Aaargh.
I gave up and bought a router (Netgear wireless with 4 port switch). Although both computers can individually connect to the net through the DSL modem, neither one can talk to the router, so with the router in place, I have no DSL at all. Well, at least I can connect the two machines one at a time to the net and get mail, etc. However, the router is a paperweight at present. A call to my ISP says the router should work with the modem, but calls to Netgear result only in a busy signal. Got LSPFix, but haven't tried it yet. Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: NCBill wrote: Thanks for your reply. What I mean by the network has quit functioning is that the client computer can no longer use the host printer, the client computer can't see an internet connection, and the client can't see shared files on the host. This happened with no apparent changes to either machine. One day it worked, the next, it didn't. I assume I am using ICS, as I have not added any networking features to the host computer. If the host is supposed to give the client an IP address, then why does it ask me for an address? Sounds as if I need to get a router and let both machines talk to the router through ethernet. That's what I'd do, honestly - but see if the other replies help. If your 'client' computer isn't getting a DHCP address from the ICS box, it may not get one from a router, either - google for LSPFix and see if it helps. Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: NCBill wrote: I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. I presume you're using ICS on the computer connected to the DSL modem via USB? What do you mean by "the network has quit functioning"? If you're using ICS, the host computer acts as a DHCP server and is supposed to give the client computer an IP address...check the event logs on the host computer. Personally, I hate ICS - I'd get a cheapo gateway appliance that can handle USB connections to the modem if there's no Ethernet port on the LAN side - and let it do DHCP, NAT. |
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NCBill wrote:
Aaargh. I gave up and bought a router (Netgear wireless with 4 port switch). Although both computers can individually connect to the net through the DSL modem, neither one can talk to the router, so with the router in place, I have no DSL at all. Forget about wireless for now and see if it works with Ethernet cables plugged into the Netgear's switch. You should receive IP addresses automatically. Run ipconfig /all to check. I usually set up the Netgear to specify the DNS servers of my choice in the DHCP scope rather than using the Netgear's LAN IP for DNS & forwarders in the NetGear - has worked a lot better for me. Once you have IP addresses on each computer (should be 192.168.0.x, I think): Ping the gateway IP address (the Netgear) - successful? Ping a DNS server like 4.2.2.1 - successful? Ping each computer's IP from the other...successful? Make sure you don't have your firewalls enabled (or configure them so you allow file/print sharing & ICMP on the LAN) Well, at least I can connect the two machines one at a time to the net and get mail, etc. However, the router is a paperweight at present. A call to my ISP says the router should work with the modem, but calls to Netgear result only in a busy signal. Got LSPFix, but haven't tried it yet. You'll really only need that if you can't get an IP address, I suspect. You need to run it if you had winsock corruption, tho - which often is the result of a bad malware infestation (the removal of the malware often corrupts it). There's no harm in running it. Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: NCBill wrote: Thanks for your reply. What I mean by the network has quit functioning is that the client computer can no longer use the host printer, the client computer can't see an internet connection, and the client can't see shared files on the host. This happened with no apparent changes to either machine. One day it worked, the next, it didn't. I assume I am using ICS, as I have not added any networking features to the host computer. If the host is supposed to give the client an IP address, then why does it ask me for an address? Sounds as if I need to get a router and let both machines talk to the router through ethernet. That's what I'd do, honestly - but see if the other replies help. If your 'client' computer isn't getting a DHCP address from the ICS box, it may not get one from a router, either - google for LSPFix and see if it helps. Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote: NCBill wrote: I am running a two computer network with a DSL line ported into the host computer through a USB port and the two machines connected by an ethernet crossover cable. The network has quit functioning and when I click on "repair" for this connection in the network window, I get a message that says Windows cannot repair because it can't renew the IP address - for assistance ask the network manager. Well, I AM the manager, and I don't know how to set the IP address. For this connection, I clicked on properties/configure(the ethernet adapter)/advanced/network address. There it shows "not present" has been selected. Should I select a value, and if so what value? The ethernet adapter is a GVC Realtek PCI. I presume you're using ICS on the computer connected to the DSL modem via USB? What do you mean by "the network has quit functioning"? If you're using ICS, the host computer acts as a DHCP server and is supposed to give the client computer an IP address...check the event logs on the host computer. Personally, I hate ICS - I'd get a cheapo gateway appliance that can handle USB connections to the modem if there's no Ethernet port on the LAN side - and let it do DHCP, NAT. |
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I had the same problem when I installed SP2.
I also has the same type of connection you had, i.e. DSL USB modem, 2 network cards and a crossover cable. ICS and file sharing always worked good before I installed SP2 on the host PC (the one that connects to intenet). At first I couldn't do anything with the LAN, than one day, as if by magic, I could share files and printers. But no internet connection! I had to manually configure the lan card's addresses, and now at least I can use ICS. but still, I can't open all the web pages nor use e-mail on the client. I left a post named "SP2&ICS" on this forum, see if you can find some suggestions. Quote:
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