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xp home -> xp home
I have 2 pc's with a perplexing problem. Setup is as follows :
Machine a has two network cards, one for the lan ( hub ) and one for cable modem. After a major problem with a firewall program we formatted and went from w2000 to xp home. All networking from and to both machines and inet sharing from machine a prior to this worked fine. Both machines could see each other, transfer files etc and machine b could access the net via ics on machine a with no problems at all. After installation of xp home, the network became a one way thing only. Machine a can see machine b and can access it's shared drives etc, even with no account login ever asked for, no account on machine b of any shape or sort other than the one that auto logs in, guest account is even turned off. logon on machine a is very different from that of machine b. I did try adding user accounts etc but it made no difference at all. Machine b can access the net via machine a's ics arrangement but cannot even see itself in the workgroup list of computers let alone access machine a. Message seen is as follows : ' Home is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.' As the user logged on has admin I cannot see for the life of me why it will not work. I have tried the network wizards, setting the ip's etc manually, 192.168.0.1 on machine a's lan nic card, 192.168.0.5 on machine b, subnet numbers are all right etc obviously as machine a can access machine b. I have tried disabling the modem nic just to get the lan working, tried different ports in the hub, all of which was wasted as machine b can go through machine a to the net. Any help will I am sure not only help me but countless dozens of others who have the same problem of the one machine can access but not both dilemna. regards to all John |
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I can now see machine b in the workgroup but have this messgae which seems to be the same for many others \\elmo is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Logon failu the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer I notice there was a post for xp pro to fix this, is there a way for xp home .. regards John "alfoilman" wrote: I have 2 pc's with a perplexing problem. Setup is as follows : Machine a has two network cards, one for the lan ( hub ) and one for cable modem. After a major problem with a firewall program we formatted and went from w2000 to xp home. All networking from and to both machines and inet sharing from machine a prior to this worked fine. Both machines could see each other, transfer files etc and machine b could access the net via ics on machine a with no problems at all. After installation of xp home, the network became a one way thing only. Machine a can see machine b and can access it's shared drives etc, even with no account login ever asked for, no account on machine b of any shape or sort other than the one that auto logs in, guest account is even turned off. logon on machine a is very different from that of machine b. I did try adding user accounts etc but it made no difference at all. Machine b can access the net via machine a's ics arrangement but cannot even see itself in the workgroup list of computers let alone access machine a. Message seen is as follows : ' Home is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.' As the user logged on has admin I cannot see for the life of me why it will not work. I have tried the network wizards, setting the ip's etc manually, 192.168.0.1 on machine a's lan nic card, 192.168.0.5 on machine b, subnet numbers are all right etc obviously as machine a can access machine b. I have tried disabling the modem nic just to get the lan working, tried different ports in the hub, all of which was wasted as machine b can go through machine a to the net. Any help will I am sure not only help me but countless dozens of others who have the same problem of the one machine can access but not both dilemna. regards to all John |
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"alfoilman" wrote in message
... update I can now see machine b in the workgroup but have this messgae which seems to be the same for many others \\elmo is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Logon failu the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer I notice there was a post for xp pro to fix this, is there a way for xp home . regards John By a strange co-incidence, some of us have been discussing this problem off-line. I wonder if you'd be kind enough to be a guinnea-pig for a little experiment? This error ought not occour on XP home. It has Simple File Sharing hard-wired, and this makes all sharing work through the Guest account behind-the scenes. For come season, a security setting is getting accidentally set, which prohibits Guest access across the LAN. This is easy to fix on XP pro, but the necessary commands are missing in XP Home. Before we try this experiment, the first thing you should try is to re-run the Network Setup Wizard on \\elmo. Often, that fixes up the permissions correctly. However, I suspect it won't fix this particular one. If you still get the error: Logon failu the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer then it's time to try this experiment. First, on \\elmo, download and install the: Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=4544 Once the install has finished, go to: Start | All Programs | Windows Resource Kit Tools | Command Shell Enter these commands, exactly as they appear he net user guest /active:yes ntrights +r SeNetworkLogonRight -u Guest ntrights -r SeDenyNetworkLogonRight -u Guest You should be notified that the rights have been succesfully granted or revoked. See if you can connect to this machine now. Several of us watch with interest... -- Best Regards, Ron Lowe MS-MVP Windows Networking |
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alfoilman wrote: I have 2 pc's with a perplexing problem. Setup is as follows : Machine a has two network cards, one for the lan ( hub ) and one for cable modem. After a major problem with a firewall program we formatted and went from w2000 to xp home. All networking from and to both machines and inet sharing from machine a prior to this worked fine. Both machines could see each other, transfer files etc and machine b could access the net via ics on machine a with no problems at all. After installation of xp home, the network became a one way thing only. Machine a can see machine b and can access it's shared drives etc, even with no account login ever asked for, no account on machine b of any shape or sort other than the one that auto logs in, guest account is even turned off. logon on machine a is very different from that of machine b. I did try adding user accounts etc but it made no difference at all. Machine b can access the net via machine a's ics arrangement but cannot even see itself in the workgroup list of computers let alone access machine a. Message seen is as follows : ' Home is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.' As the user logged on has admin I cannot see for the life of me why it will not work. I have tried the network wizards, setting the ip's etc manually, 192.168.0.1 on machine a's lan nic card, 192.168.0.5 on machine b, subnet numbers are all right etc obviously as machine a can access machine b. I have tried disabling the modem nic just to get the lan working, tried different ports in the hub, all of which was wasted as machine b can go through machine a to the net. Any help will I am sure not only help me but countless dozens of others who have the same problem of the one machine can access but not both dilemna. regards to all John 1. On the original or SP1 version of Windows XP, disable the built-in Internet Connection Firewall on the local area network connection -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection to the Internet. On the SP2 version, enable the exception for file and printer sharing in the Windows Firewall. 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all but one of them. Details he Windows XP Network Protocol2 http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers: a. Open the Network Connections folder. b. Right click the local area network connection. c. Click Properties. d. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). e. Click Advanced. f. Click WINS. g. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button. 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution. If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key: HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters and delete these values if they're present: NodeType DhcpNodeType Reboot, then try network access again. If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for "Mixed". For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles: Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177 TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053 -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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alfoilman wrote: update I can now see machine b in the workgroup but have this messgae which seems to be the same for many others \\elmo is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Logon failu the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer I notice there was a post for xp pro to fix this, is there a way for xp home . regards John If Elmo runs XP Home, run the Network Setup Wizard on it. That usually solves the problem. If that doesn't work, try this procedure, developed by Oli Restorick, Ron Lowe, and me yesterday in response to a similar message: 1. Download and install the Windows 2003 Server Resource Kit Tools from http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=4544 . 2. Click Start | All Programs | Windows Resource Kit Tools | Command Shell. 3. Type these lines at the command prompt to grant network logon rights to the Guest account. The second and third commands are case-sensitive, so type them exactly as shown. Note the "+r" in the second one and the "-r" in the third one: net user guest /active:yes ntrights +r SeNetworkLogonRight -u Guest ntrights -r SeDenyNetworkLogonRight -u Guest -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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I dont seem to be able to programe share when networked (2 pc's) with XP
Home...... HELP!!! "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: In article , alfoilman wrote: I have 2 pc's with a perplexing problem. Setup is as follows : Machine a has two network cards, one for the lan ( hub ) and one for cable modem. After a major problem with a firewall program we formatted and went from w2000 to xp home. All networking from and to both machines and inet sharing from machine a prior to this worked fine. Both machines could see each other, transfer files etc and machine b could access the net via ics on machine a with no problems at all. After installation of xp home, the network became a one way thing only. Machine a can see machine b and can access it's shared drives etc, even with no account login ever asked for, no account on machine b of any shape or sort other than the one that auto logs in, guest account is even turned off. logon on machine a is very different from that of machine b. I did try adding user accounts etc but it made no difference at all. Machine b can access the net via machine a's ics arrangement but cannot even see itself in the workgroup list of computers let alone access machine a. Message seen is as follows : ' Home is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.' As the user logged on has admin I cannot see for the life of me why it will not work. I have tried the network wizards, setting the ip's etc manually, 192.168.0.1 on machine a's lan nic card, 192.168.0.5 on machine b, subnet numbers are all right etc obviously as machine a can access machine b. I have tried disabling the modem nic just to get the lan working, tried different ports in the hub, all of which was wasted as machine b can go through machine a to the net. Any help will I am sure not only help me but countless dozens of others who have the same problem of the one machine can access but not both dilemna. regards to all John 1. On the original or SP1 version of Windows XP, disable the built-in Internet Connection Firewall on the local area network connection -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection to the Internet. On the SP2 version, enable the exception for file and printer sharing in the Windows Firewall. 2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all but one of them. Details he Windows XP Network Protocol2 http://www.practicallynetworked.com/..._protocols.htm 3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers: a. Open the Network Connections folder. b. Right click the local area network connection. c. Click Properties. d. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). e. Click Advanced. f. Click WINS. g. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button. 4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution. If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key: HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters and delete these values if they're present: NodeType DhcpNodeType Reboot, then try network access again. If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for "Mixed". For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles: Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;160177 TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314053 -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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I had an indentical problem with 2 machines on Windows XP Home and this fix
worked !! Thank you so much ! I have been up all weekend trying to figure this out and I'm pretty sure I've tried every other solution out there. First, on \\elmo, download and install the: Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=4544 Once the install has finished, go to: Start | All Programs | Windows Resource Kit Tools | Command Shell Enter these commands, exactly as they appear he net user guest /active:yes ntrights +r SeNetworkLogonRight -u Guest ntrights -r SeDenyNetworkLogonRight -u Guest You should be notified that the rights have been succesfully granted or revoked. See if you can connect to this machine now. Several of us watch with interest... -- Best Regards, Ron Lowe MS-MVP Windows Networking |
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I tried the fix with no luck unfortunately although the message now changes a
bit from " \\elmo is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Logon failu the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer " to " \\elmo is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Access denied " I figure it must be getting very close now. It is so stupid tho that one way it works yet the other way it doesn't and other than lan ip's both machines are set the same. Really do appreciate the help and am sure it's only going to be a short matter of time before it gets sorted. regards John |
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"alfoilman" wrote in message
... I tried the fix with no luck unfortunately although the message now changes a bit from " \\elmo is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Logon failu the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer " to " \\elmo is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Access denied " I figure it must be getting very close now. It is so stupid tho that one way it works yet the other way it doesn't and other than lan ip's both machines are set the same. Really do appreciate the help and am sure it's only going to be a short matter of time before it gets sorted. regards John This has moved things along. The guest account is no longer blocked at the front door, we're getting past that. Now, we are falling foul of either share permissions or NTFS permissions. At his point, it may be worth re-running the network setup wizard. Try un-sharing any shares you have created; Run the Network Setup Wizard once again; Re-share a folder as a test ( create a test folder if you like ), and choose a simple share name. Then try to connect from the other machine. But not by browsing to \\elmo. In the first instance, try to connect by mapping a network drive. On the other machine, use windows explorer. Tools \ Map network drive. In the Folder box, enter \\elmo\sharename Now what happens? Do you get a prompt to supply any password? What exactly does it say? -- Best Regards, Ron Lowe MS-MVP Windows Networking |
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This has moved things along.
The guest account is no longer blocked at the front door, we're getting past that. Now, we are falling foul of either share permissions or NTFS permissions. At his point, it may be worth re-running the network setup wizard. Try un-sharing any shares you have created; Run the Network Setup Wizard once again; Re-share a folder as a test ( create a test folder if you like ), and choose a simple share name. Then try to connect from the other machine. But not by browsing to \\elmo. In the first instance, try to connect by mapping a network drive. On the other machine, use windows explorer. Tools \ Map network drive. In the Folder box, enter \\elmo\sharename Now what happens? Do you get a prompt to supply any password? What exactly does it say? -- Best Regards, Ron Lowe MS-MVP Windows Networking Well, you will be very happy to know that fixed the problem. For whatever reason it seems that you need to map the share to a drive on the machine that cannot access the other machine via explorer through My network places / microsoft windows network / workgroup name. By mapping the 2 drives on the other machine I now have full access to all files and am very happy To coin a phrase, you rock dude ))))))) This however does still not let me play lan games if machine A is serving them, but that too will come I'd be keen to hear any other ideas to solve this little problem you may have, installing other programs to do the job ( sygate ) seems a waste if xp should be able to do it. Your help is much appreciated regards John |
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Sounds like this is your fix:
On the XP machines, click Start, click Run, type REGEDIT (hit enter) Go to the following reg key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\LSA Look for "RestrictAnonymous" and ensure it is set to 0. Reboot for changes to take affect Carey "alfoilman" wrote in message ... This has moved things along. The guest account is no longer blocked at the front door, we're getting past that. Now, we are falling foul of either share permissions or NTFS permissions. At his point, it may be worth re-running the network setup wizard. Try un-sharing any shares you have created; Run the Network Setup Wizard once again; Re-share a folder as a test ( create a test folder if you like ), and choose a simple share name. Then try to connect from the other machine. But not by browsing to \\elmo. In the first instance, try to connect by mapping a network drive. On the other machine, use windows explorer. Tools \ Map network drive. In the Folder box, enter \\elmo\sharename Now what happens? Do you get a prompt to supply any password? What exactly does it say? -- Best Regards, Ron Lowe MS-MVP Windows Networking Well, you will be very happy to know that fixed the problem. For whatever reason it seems that you need to map the share to a drive on the machine that cannot access the other machine via explorer through My network places / microsoft windows network / workgroup name. By mapping the 2 drives on the other machine I now have full access to all files and am very happy To coin a phrase, you rock dude ))))))) This however does still not let me play lan games if machine A is serving them, but that too will come I'd be keen to hear any other ideas to solve this little problem you may have, installing other programs to do the job ( sygate ) seems a waste if xp should be able to do it. Your help is much appreciated regards John |
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And oh my god, we have connection, elmo had a 1 for that value. It's all
fixed, YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to get all the info together and type it up so i don't lose it for next time i have to go through this. Thankyou Carey for that final fix and Ron Lowe and Steve Winograd for all your great help guys. Let's have a collective ' You guys ROCK ' regards John "Carey Holzman" wrote: Sounds like this is your fix: On the XP machines, click Start, click Run, type REGEDIT (hit enter) Go to the following reg key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\LSA Look for "RestrictAnonymous" and ensure it is set to 0. Reboot for changes to take affect Carey "alfoilman" wrote in message ... This has moved things along. The guest account is no longer blocked at the front door, we're getting past that. Now, we are falling foul of either share permissions or NTFS permissions. At his point, it may be worth re-running the network setup wizard. Try un-sharing any shares you have created; Run the Network Setup Wizard once again; Re-share a folder as a test ( create a test folder if you like ), and choose a simple share name. Then try to connect from the other machine. But not by browsing to \\elmo. In the first instance, try to connect by mapping a network drive. On the other machine, use windows explorer. Tools \ Map network drive. In the Folder box, enter \\elmo\sharename Now what happens? Do you get a prompt to supply any password? What exactly does it say? -- Best Regards, Ron Lowe MS-MVP Windows Networking Well, you will be very happy to know that fixed the problem. For whatever reason it seems that you need to map the share to a drive on the machine that cannot access the other machine via explorer through My network places / microsoft windows network / workgroup name. By mapping the 2 drives on the other machine I now have full access to all files and am very happy To coin a phrase, you rock dude ))))))) This however does still not let me play lan games if machine A is serving them, but that too will come I'd be keen to hear any other ideas to solve this little problem you may have, installing other programs to do the job ( sygate ) seems a waste if xp should be able to do it. Your help is much appreciated regards John |
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Sounds like Ron, Steve and I each provided a little piece of your puzzle.
Glad to hear you got it working! Carey "alfoilman" wrote in message ... And oh my god, we have connection, elmo had a 1 for that value. It's all fixed, YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to get all the info together and type it up so i don't lose it for next time i have to go through this. Thankyou Carey for that final fix and Ron Lowe and Steve Winograd for all your great help guys. Let's have a collective ' You guys ROCK ' regards John "Carey Holzman" wrote: Sounds like this is your fix: On the XP machines, click Start, click Run, type REGEDIT (hit enter) Go to the following reg key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\LSA Look for "RestrictAnonymous" and ensure it is set to 0. Reboot for changes to take affect Carey "alfoilman" wrote in message ... This has moved things along. The guest account is no longer blocked at the front door, we're getting past that. Now, we are falling foul of either share permissions or NTFS permissions. At his point, it may be worth re-running the network setup wizard. Try un-sharing any shares you have created; Run the Network Setup Wizard once again; Re-share a folder as a test ( create a test folder if you like ), and choose a simple share name. Then try to connect from the other machine. But not by browsing to \\elmo. In the first instance, try to connect by mapping a network drive. On the other machine, use windows explorer. Tools \ Map network drive. In the Folder box, enter \\elmo\sharename Now what happens? Do you get a prompt to supply any password? What exactly does it say? -- Best Regards, Ron Lowe MS-MVP Windows Networking Well, you will be very happy to know that fixed the problem. For whatever reason it seems that you need to map the share to a drive on the machine that cannot access the other machine via explorer through My network places / microsoft windows network / workgroup name. By mapping the 2 drives on the other machine I now have full access to all files and am very happy To coin a phrase, you rock dude ))))))) This however does still not let me play lan games if machine A is serving them, but that too will come I'd be keen to hear any other ideas to solve this little problem you may have, installing other programs to do the job ( sygate ) seems a waste if xp should be able to do it. Your help is much appreciated regards John |
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