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Windows Update taking a long time
What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? Kernel updates are causing Windows Update to get stuck in a loop that takes a long time to get past. If you search for 'June rollup' or 'July rollup', it will install a newer version that fixes the issue. Several threads online about this: https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30...es-taking-too- long http://preview.tinyurl.com/j3upq22 -- If there is a no_junk in my address, please REMOVE it before replying! All junk mail senders will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!! http://home.comcast.net/~andyross |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:41:04 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? Where have you been the last few months? Try this: http://wu.krelay.de/en/ -- s|b |
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? It has nothing to do with the promotion. The problem exists on WinXP, Vista, and Win7. So the problem has existed for a long time. Since there is nothing in Windows Update that you need, turn it off. Paul |
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.... I am Locutus of Borg, Paul, resistance is futile ...
It has nothing to do with the promotion. Yeah, yeah, for years worked just fine, until Windows 10 came out, than suddenly slow downs... -- .... Vladimir Vučićević aka. Bachi ~~~ www.bachi.in.rs Skype: don_vucicevic It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice... |
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Vladimir Vučićević wrote:
... I am Locutus of Borg, Paul, resistance is futile ... It has nothing to do with the promotion. Yeah, yeah, for years worked just fine, until Windows 10 came out, than suddenly slow downs... My thoughts exactly, especially now that the promotion is over, updates come as quickly as before. I haven't tried a new install. -- Z |
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Vladimir Vučićević wrote:
... I am Locutus of Borg, Paul, resistance is futile ... It has nothing to do with the promotion. Yeah, yeah, for years worked just fine, until Windows 10 came out, than suddenly slow downs... You did not experience the exponentially increasing Windows Update delay in WinXP ? It was there. And a mid-level Microsoft manager even promised to fix it, and of course, he did not. I know, because I used to go through this stuff, month after month. The problem is the manifest file on the Microsoft server, needing to be cleaned up. When Microsoft wants to "bandaid" the problem, they make a one-time optimization, to reduce the delay. Then, as each month passes, the problems build up in the manifest, as does the delay. In the WinXP era, it was sufficient to install the latest Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer, to reduce the Windows Update delay. This tells you that the supersedence chain for IE was causing the delay. Once you installed the Cumulative for IE manually (didn't matter what version, even IE6 would do), you could then go to Windows Update and see a short delay. On Windows 7, you have to use the latest version of IE11, as well as the latest Cumulative Update, and the improvement in delay time drops from 80 minutes to 50 minutes. That tells me that other packages, their supersedence calculation also uses excessive CPU time. Vista users (there aren't many), occasionally pop up complaining about the problem. So the problem is there too. You guys are making too big a deal about '608. I'm not convinced it fixed a damn thing. An actual fix, was the WU-specific patch that reduced memory consumption to 20% of what was being used previously. IT administrators asked for that patch, because large companies were seeing Win7 machines with 2GB of RAM, use all the RAM for wuauserv. Which meant the employees couldn't really use the computer, for an hour at a time. They were, to quote a phrase, "mad as hell". Because the IT staff get the abuse, for not being able to fix it themselves. I did a clean install, applied one of the Cumulative updates that promised to fix the problem, and yes, the delay was reduced to 4 minutes. Then, I looked inside the package (with 7ZIP), and there was *no* copy of win32k.sys in it. (One of the theories, is that win32k.sys code is partially responsible for the symptoms.) This is one of the reason I feel we're not getting a real fix here, and they're just modifying the manifest temporarily to shut us up. The changes coming in October, will change how Windows 7 gets updates. Turn off your Windows Update before October Patch Tuesday, until enough is known about what is being delivered in the updates. You may not like it! Be careful in October. Paul |
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"Z" wrote in message ...
now that the promotion is over, updates come as quickly as before. Not the case in my experience. My Windows 7 PC used to update quickly and then over the past few months it's slowed down - but even the update of early this week (*after* the free Windows 10 upgrade had expired) was as slow. The symptom is that the PC identifies which updates it needs fairly quickly, but then when you say "Install this selection of updates" it sits there for tens of minutes on 0% / 0 MB downloaded. Every time I've tried it, it's suddenly downloaded and installed the updates after I've left it to its own devices. Maybe the process has become shy and won't perform while it's being watched, but if you get on with something else or leave the PC overnight, it will then start downloading :-) Once the actual downloads start, then actual transfer and installation seems to complete quickly: the one early this week had been sitting on 0% for about an hour, as I kept flipping back to look at the window in between doing other things. Then five minutes later all the updates (amounting to about 150 MB) had downloaded and installed, and the PC was asking for permission to reboot. |
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In Paul wrote:
Since there is nothing in Windows Update that you need, turn it off. Funny! -- St. Paul, MN |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:50:22 -0400, Paul wrote:
Since there is nothing in Windows Update that you need, turn it off. And disconnect your computer from the Internet. You forgot about that! ;-) -- s|b |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:50:22 -0400, Paul wrote: Since there is nothing in Windows Update that you need, turn it off. And disconnect your computer from the Internet. You forgot about that! ;-) Well, look at it this way. Microsoft has done such a fine job with Win7 Windows Update, that practically none of the "naive" users are aware their machine isn't patched and up to date. You'd just be one of those people. I've turned mine off. And the indicators are, when the new patch delivery scheme comes in October or November, there will be yet another reason to turn it off. A Windows 10 delivery system, we don't need. I don't know the details, but my suspicion is, you'll have little choice in the matter. Accept no patches or accept all patches. No in between option. So at that point, to control the Microsoft business interests from competing with my interest, *it stays off*. I don't see any humor in their "extended support" being treated like this, when it was supposed to last until 2020. I entered a contract with the company, for a service to be delivered in a certain way, until 2020. It would be like if the airline decided it was OK to strap me to the wing, instead of fly inside the cabin. Yes, I got to my destination, but my hair is a mess. Why is my Windows 7 being strapped to the wing ? Paul |
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On 16/09/2016 10:41 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? Try this http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...6b36d0c?auth=1 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maurice Helwig ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Paul wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? It has nothing to do with the promotion. The problem exists on WinXP, Vista, and Win7. So the problem has existed for a long time. Since there is nothing in Windows Update that you need, turn it off. Paul I agree. I have looked at every w7 update for years and finally turned w7 update off a few months ago. In that time I installed maybe 10 out of thousands. I don't care if Somalia did away with daylight savings time. I don't care if Azerbaijan has a new currency symbol. The fixes for arcane security issues are worthless to me, especially the ones where someone has to be sitting at my computer to hack into it. The update roll-ups scare me. I don't want unknown installed telemetry reporting to the MS Homeworld. |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:14:23 -0400, Paul
wrote: s|b wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:50:22 -0400, Paul wrote: Since there is nothing in Windows Update that you need, turn it off. And disconnect your computer from the Internet. You forgot about that! ;-) Well, look at it this way. Microsoft has done such a fine job with Win7 Windows Update, that practically none of the "naive" users are aware their machine isn't patched and up to date. You'd just be one of those people. I've turned mine off. And the indicators are, when the new patch delivery scheme comes in October or November, there will be yet another reason to turn it off. A Windows 10 delivery system, we don't need. I don't know the details, but my suspicion is, you'll have little choice in the matter. Accept no patches or accept all patches. No in between option. So at that point, to control the Microsoft business interests from competing with my interest, *it stays off*. I don't see any humor in their "extended support" being treated like this, when it was supposed to last until 2020. I entered a contract with the company, for a service to be delivered in a certain way, until 2020. It would be like if the airline decided it was OK to strap me to the wing, instead of fly inside the cabin. Yes, I got to my destination, but my hair is a mess. Why is my Windows 7 being strapped to the wing ? Paul I turned off Windows Update when they started pushing Windows 10. -- JT |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:48:12 +0200, s|b wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:50:22 -0400, Paul wrote: Since there is nothing in Windows Update that you need, turn it off. And disconnect your computer from the Internet. You forgot about that! ;-) It's easy to poke fun, but Paul makes a valid point. I turned off Windows Update in disgust at Microsoft's bad faith in perverting security updates. I believed then, and I do now, that Microsoft is the largest menace to the security and function of my computer. And there's a significant chance that October's changes will make things worse. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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