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Old January 28th 18, 06:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
No_Name
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I just bought a Dell desktop, Win 10. I want to know what is the best
net connection.

The PC isphysically located real close to my Net cable modem, so it
would be easy to connect via Ethernet. I am not sure if Killer e2400
ethernet is a good choice, based upon on line reviews. That is the
ethernet interface that came with my PC. My other choice is clearly
wireless.

Is that Killer e2400 a "good" choice?

Which would be the fastest connection: Wwireless or Ethernet?

BTW I am definitely NOT a PC gamer
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Old January 28th 18, 06:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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On 1/28/2018 1:05 PM, wrote:
I just bought a Dell desktop, Win 10. I want to know what is the best
net connection.

The PC isphysically located real close to my Net cable modem, so it
would be easy to connect via Ethernet. I am not sure if Killer e2400
ethernet is a good choice, based upon on line reviews. That is the
ethernet interface that came with my PC. My other choice is clearly
wireless.

Is that Killer e2400 a "good" choice?

Which would be the fastest connection: Wwireless or Ethernet?

BTW I am definitely NOT a PC gamer

The first question is not what router, but who is your ISP and what plan
you are in.

If you are in a plan the offers 12 Mbps download, then that is the
maximum download you will get see on your computer even if your router
is capable of handling 1200 Mbps.

There are other limits in the system. The ethernet protocol has two
limits depending on the version 100 mbps or 1000 mbps. The wireless
protocol is also establishes limits of 300 mbps and 1 gbps.

So some of these high priced, very high speed routers may be over kill
depending on your system and ISP where the limits are established.

Remember there are 8 bits per byte, so 12 Mbits per second equals 1.5
Mbytes per second




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Old January 28th 18, 07:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Network Connection

wrote:
I just bought a Dell desktop, Win 10. I want to know what is the best
net connection.

The PC isphysically located real close to my Net cable modem, so it
would be easy to connect via Ethernet. I am not sure if Killer e2400
ethernet is a good choice, based upon on line reviews. That is the
ethernet interface that came with my PC. My other choice is clearly
wireless.

Is that Killer e2400 a "good" choice?

Which would be the fastest connection: Wwireless or Ethernet?

BTW I am definitely NOT a PC gamer


E2400 is GbE.

https://www.killernetworking.com/products/killer-e2400

And, it's pretty ordinary now. It's actually an *Attansic* chip.

https://techreport.com/review/29144/...eight-years-on

I hear it's capable of using some NDIS driver and being
an "ordinary" NIC. No longer is there a place to run
Linux inside the chip. The routing layer the chip used
to have, has now been moved into the Windows domain :-/
Evil evil marketing genius. The only way they could have
made this "better" is if they used a RealTek NIC chip
and just spray painted over the name.

*******

If I look over on the SmallNetBuilder site, in a lot of cases
the Wifi gives 100MB/sec on a good day.

A GbE on the other hand, gives 112MB/sec best case.

So it's a wash, when the Wifi is a good one, and all the
gear is "in the same class". Mixing older Wifi with
newer Wifi causes fallback behavior (20MHz channel width),
which may compromise performance.

Whereas with the wired case, the performance at the PHY layer
is pretty consistent.

Where we can't gain traction, is the OS and file sharing. It
seems Win10 Server editions, you can dial file sharing to
use 100% of the link (like it was intended to be). The desktop
****es around with giving a fraction of the wired connection.
This really really irritates me. And it's the sole reason
I have a plan to "over-buy" gear for local networking,
just to compensate for the lack of desktop policy settings.

So if you test a large number of "from-to" combinations
when doing file sharing, sooner or later you're going
to see the link running at 60MB/sec when transferring
a big file, and then you'll be wondering why. And it
might not be an issue with the PHY layer, but some
arbitrary choice by MS folks. Some days, I do see 112MB/sec,
but it's not consistent enough I can give you a from-to
table from memory.

Paul


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Old January 28th 18, 08:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Network Connection

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 13:05:55 -0500, wrote:

I just bought a Dell desktop, Win 10. I want to know what is the best
net connection.

The PC isphysically located real close to my Net cable modem, so it
would be easy to connect via Ethernet. I am not sure if Killer e2400
ethernet is a good choice, based upon on line reviews. That is the
ethernet interface that came with my PC. My other choice is clearly
wireless.

Is that Killer e2400 a "good" choice?

Which would be the fastest connection: Wwireless or Ethernet?



It may change one of these days, but for now ethernet is faster than
wireless.


The absolute best Wifi is the 60GHz one, that delivers ~700MB/sec
at a distance of five feet. (Woopee!)

However, if you step into the next room, it works no better than
a $10 Edimax dongle. It still works, just no longer fast,
and it switches to 2.4GHz or 5GHz with the rest of the
regular Wifi. It has fall-back behavior, if the 60GHz signal
disappears.

So that one is a line-of-sight technology. 60GHz won't penetrate
walls, and probably won't go through an open door frame or
down a hallway.

Lots of the graphs I see on SmallNetBuilder site for Wifi,
are not very impressive at all. There's nothing remotely
approaching the "hype" or "marketing" rate on the package.
The best place to try to test for "heroic" performance,
is on a farm where you don't have any neighbors, and the
only Wifi signals are the ones you control. Then, if the
standard you're using has 40MHz or 80MHz channel width
options, they might actually turn that feature on.

Paul
 




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