A Windows XP help forum. PCbanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » PCbanter forum » Windows 10 » Windows 10 Help Forum
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Gadgets



 
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old January 1st 19, 10:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ramsman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5
Default Gadgets

How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving
gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up
and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?
--
Peter

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Ads
  #2  
Old January 1st 19, 11:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Kevin Bean
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Gadgets

Try 8GadgetPack: https://8gadgetpack.net/


On 1/01/2019 09:48, Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving
gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up
and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?


  #3  
Old January 1st 19, 11:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default Gadgets

Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving
gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up
and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?


https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/

"After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just
right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll
see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7.
"

This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like
and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports
the HTML/JS gadgets.

So when I downloaded one of them, I got

8GadgetPackSetup.msi 23,244,220 bytes

You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file
types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights.

Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it.

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection

If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so
the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML
and JS in there.

Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some
are watched more carefully than others. That makes
it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is.
You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform,
downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe
Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such
imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either
way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives
the black hats too much info to work with).

Paul
  #4  
Old January 1st 19, 11:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ramsman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5
Default Gadgets

On 01/01/2019 10:04, Kevin Bean wrote:
Try 8GadgetPack: https://8gadgetpack.net/


On 1/01/2019 09:48, Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving
gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up
and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?



Thanks, but I don't want them. I just want to install a single meter.

--
Peter

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

  #5  
Old January 1st 19, 11:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ramsman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5
Default Gadgets

On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving
gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up
and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?


https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/


Â*Â* "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just
Â*Â*Â* right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll
Â*Â*Â* see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7.
Â*Â* "

This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like
and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports
the HTML/JS gadgets.

So when I downloaded one of them, I got

Â*Â* 8GadgetPackSetup.msiÂ*Â*Â* 23,244,220 bytes

You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file
types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights.

Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it.

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection


If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so
the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML
and JS in there.

Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some
are watched more carefully than others. That makes
it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is.
You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform,
downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe
Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such
imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either
way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives
the black hats too much info to work with).

Â*Â* Paul


It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of
installing.
I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the
various packages.
--
Peter

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

  #6  
Old January 1st 19, 12:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default Gadgets

Ramsman wrote:
On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or
reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10
gadget up and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?


https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/


"After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just
right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll
see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7.
"

This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like
and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports
the HTML/JS gadgets.

So when I downloaded one of them, I got

8GadgetPackSetup.msi 23,244,220 bytes

You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file
types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights.

Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it.

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection


If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so
the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML
and JS in there.

Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some
are watched more carefully than others. That makes
it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is.
You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform,
downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe
Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such
imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either
way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives
the black hats too much info to work with).

Paul


It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of
installing.
I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the
various packages.


If you look at 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , it includes "sidebar.exe".

Checking the properties on that file, it's Microsoft software,
not something written by a third party.

What the MSI package does, is install some bits and pieces
from another Windows OS, so that the "NetworkMonitorII.gadget"
you have, can be "interpreted". Some of these things rely
on engines in the OS to "interpret" and not "execute" them.

That is an example of an essential element to interpret
your "NetworkMonitorII.gadget".

Now, in addition to sidebar.exe , the file would need to be
hacked a bit. Some Microsoft content has a declaration of
what OS it is for. If you try and take Solitaire from an
older Windows OS and run it in Windows 10, it is blacklisted.
By using a hex editor, you change a few bytes in it (I don't
know the recipe) and that declares it is for your
current OS. That's why we have 100MB games packs where
files have been hacked to pass a blacklist check.

You cannot hack files which are signed. Critical parts of
the OS are signed as well as marked. If you attempt to
change the OS declaration, it ruins the signing and the
loader won't load it.

So anyway, if you look at the 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , some
of it is a couple Windows 7 materials, which might be hacked
so they pass a blacklist check. Then, you load your *.gadget
on top of that, to be interpreted and placed in the
sidebar. It's something like that.

You need two components:

1) The subsystem to interpret the *.gadget.
2) The *.gadget file itself.

The MSI, at a bare minimum, gives you (1). But I can
see HTML and JS in the MSI as well, so the product is
likely "decorated" as well.

I don't have a *.gadget handy, but I'm willing to bet
if you have 7ZIP handy, the file format is actually
an archive format of some sort, with HTML and JS files
inside. It should not be an EXE with a PE32 header.
It will be ZIP-like (and open-able with the right tool
for examination).

Paul
  #7  
Old January 3rd 19, 10:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ramsman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5
Default Gadgets

On 01/01/2019 11:10, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote:
On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or
reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a
W10 gadget up and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?

https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/


Â*Â*Â* "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just
Â*Â*Â*Â* right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll
Â*Â*Â*Â* see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7.
Â*Â*Â* "

This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like
and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports
the HTML/JS gadgets.

So when I downloaded one of them, I got

Â*Â*Â* 8GadgetPackSetup.msiÂ*Â*Â* 23,244,220 bytes

You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file
types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights.

Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it.

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection


If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so
the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML
and JS in there.

Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some
are watched more carefully than others. That makes
it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is.
You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform,
downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe
Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such
imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either
way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives
the black hats too much info to work with).

Â*Â*Â* Paul


It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of
installing.
I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the
various packages.


If you look at 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , it includes "sidebar.exe".

Checking the properties on that file, it's Microsoft software,
not something written by a third party.

What the MSI package does, is install some bits and pieces
from another Windows OS, so that the "NetworkMonitorII.gadget"
you have, can be "interpreted". Some of these things rely
on engines in the OS to "interpret" and not "execute" them.

That is an example of an essential element to interpret
your "NetworkMonitorII.gadget".

Now, in addition to sidebar.exe , the file would need to be
hacked a bit. Some Microsoft content has a declaration of
what OS it is for. If you try and take Solitaire from an
older Windows OS and run it in Windows 10, it is blacklisted.
By using a hex editor, you change a few bytes in it (I don't
know the recipe) and that declares it is for your
current OS. That's why we have 100MB games packs where
files have been hacked to pass a blacklist check.

You cannot hack files which are signed. Critical parts of
the OS are signed as well as marked. If you attempt to
change the OS declaration, it ruins the signing and the
loader won't load it.

So anyway, if you look at the 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , some
of it is a couple Windows 7 materials, which might be hacked
so they pass a blacklist check. Then, you load your *.gadget
on top of that, to be interpreted and placed in the
sidebar. It's something like that.

You need two components:

1) The subsystem to interpret the *.gadget.
2) The *.gadget file itself.

The MSI, at a bare minimum, gives you (1). But I can
see HTML and JS in the MSI as well, so the product is
likely "decorated" as well.

I don't have a *.gadget handy, but I'm willing to bet
if you have 7ZIP handy, the file format is actually
an archive format of some sort, with HTML and JS files
inside. It should not be an EXE with a PE32 header.
It will be ZIP-like (and open-able with the right tool
for examination).

Â*Â* Paul


Thanks for the information, Paul. There is only a .zip file, and it
contains only the .gadget file. There is more information on the
website, but I have other things that require urgent attention at the
moment, so I'll leave this for a while.

--
Peter

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

  #8  
Old January 3rd 19, 11:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mike
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 185
Default Gadgets

On 1/3/2019 1:48 AM, Ramsman wrote:
On 01/01/2019 11:10, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote:
On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10?

All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or
reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a
W10 gadget up and running in the first place.

Am I missing something obvious here?

https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/


Â*Â*Â* "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just
Â*Â*Â*Â* right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll
Â*Â*Â*Â* see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7.
Â*Â*Â* "

This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like
and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports
the HTML/JS gadgets.

So when I downloaded one of them, I got

Â*Â*Â* 8GadgetPackSetup.msiÂ*Â*Â* 23,244,220 bytes

You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file
types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights.

Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it.

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection


If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so
the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML
and JS in there.

Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some
are watched more carefully than others. That makes
it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is.
You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform,
downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe
Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such
imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either
way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives
the black hats too much info to work with).

Â*Â*Â* Paul

It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of
installing.
I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the
various packages.


If you look at 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , it includes "sidebar.exe".

Checking the properties on that file, it's Microsoft software,
not something written by a third party.

What the MSI package does, is install some bits and pieces
from another Windows OS, so that the "NetworkMonitorII.gadget"
you have, can be "interpreted". Some of these things rely
on engines in the OS to "interpret" and not "execute" them.

That is an example of an essential element to interpret
your "NetworkMonitorII.gadget".

Now, in addition to sidebar.exe , the file would need to be
hacked a bit. Some Microsoft content has a declaration of
what OS it is for. If you try and take Solitaire from an
older Windows OS and run it in Windows 10, it is blacklisted.
By using a hex editor, you change a few bytes in it (I don't
know the recipe) and that declares it is for your
current OS. That's why we have 100MB games packs where
files have been hacked to pass a blacklist check.

You cannot hack files which are signed. Critical parts of
the OS are signed as well as marked. If you attempt to
change the OS declaration, it ruins the signing and the
loader won't load it.

So anyway, if you look at the 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , some
of it is a couple Windows 7 materials, which might be hacked
so they pass a blacklist check. Then, you load your *.gadget
on top of that, to be interpreted and placed in the
sidebar. It's something like that.

You need two components:

1) The subsystem to interpret the *.gadget.
2) The *.gadget file itself.

The MSI, at a bare minimum, gives you (1). But I can
see HTML and JS in the MSI as well, so the product is
likely "decorated" as well.

I don't have a *.gadget handy, but I'm willing to bet
if you have 7ZIP handy, the file format is actually
an archive format of some sort, with HTML and JS files
inside. It should not be an EXE with a PE32 header.Rai
It will be ZIP-like (and open-able with the right tool
for examination).

Â*Â*Â* Paul


Thanks for the information, Paul. There is only a .zip file, and it
contains only the .gadget file. There is more information on the
website, but I have other things that require urgent attention at the
moment, so I'll leave this for a while.

I've had win10 updates uninstall 8gadget.
I switched to rainmeter.
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off






All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 PCbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.