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  #46  
Old May 5th 17, 02:42 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Paul" wrote

An addendum. After all that I decided to clean up
all the muck I'd just downloaded. ExifToolGUI
wouldn't delete. Odd. So I open Task Manager.
Whaddayaknow. I closed it but it's still running!
So be sure to kill the process when you get
through exploring.


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  #47  
Old May 5th 17, 02:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Mayayana
wrote:


| There's a picture here, about half way down.
|
| "ExifToolGUI for Windows v5.xx"
|
| http://u88.n24.queensu.ca/~bogdan/

Have you tried it? First I had to find the download
for the UI version, in some forum post. Then I had to
download exiftool. (ExifToolGUI doesn't work by itself.
Surprise, surprise.) But downloading exiftool also doesn't
seem to work. Imagine that. I'm starting to get that
nostalgic Linux greasemonkey feeling. Let's open Filemon
and see what ExifToolGUI is trying to do.

I finally figured out it would work if I download the
Windows compiled exiftool, put it in the same folder
*and* rename it, removing the bizarre (-k) thing that's
part of the name. Piece of cake. I didn't even have to
create a Linux /etc folder and create an INI file from
scratch. We're in business now....

So 99% of the public has just been ruled
out as far as being able to even set up this tool.


99% of the public doesn't know what exif data is at all and won't ever
be using it or any other exif utility.
  #48  
Old May 5th 17, 02:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"dale" wrote

| No need
| to use half-baked command line tools.

| thanks
|

I should note, also.... You may already know this,
but a lot of software will remove metadata normally.
If you save to any other format you lose all metadata.
If you edit you'll probably have a choice. I use 2
versions of Paint Shop Pro, 5 and 16. 16 has some
newer functions but the UI is a bloated mess, so I
often just use PSP5 for simple things. PSP5 doesn't
recognize metadata. It all gets dropped out on save.
Nice.


  #49  
Old May 5th 17, 05:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 5/5/17 9:47 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"dale" wrote

| No need
| to use half-baked command line tools.

| thanks
|

I should note, also.... You may already know this,
but a lot of software will remove metadata normally.
If you save to any other format you lose all metadata.
If you edit you'll probably have a choice. I use 2
versions of Paint Shop Pro, 5 and 16. 16 has some
newer functions but the UI is a bloated mess, so I
often just use PSP5 for simple things. PSP5 doesn't
recognize metadata. It all gets dropped out on save.
Nice.



I'm using gimp

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  #50  
Old May 5th 17, 06:00 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , dale
wrote:

| No need
| to use half-baked command line tools.

| thanks
|

I should note, also.... You may already know this,
but a lot of software will remove metadata normally.
If you save to any other format you lose all metadata.
If you edit you'll probably have a choice. I use 2
versions of Paint Shop Pro, 5 and 16. 16 has some
newer functions but the UI is a bloated mess, so I
often just use PSP5 for simple things. PSP5 doesn't
recognize metadata. It all gets dropped out on save.
Nice.



I'm using gimp


that's not even half-baked. that's still in the dough is rising stage.
  #51  
Old May 5th 17, 07:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 5/4/2017 11:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-05-04 13:23:08 +0000, Roy Tremblay said:

On Thu, 4 May 2017 08:40:33 -0400,
Mayayana actually wrote:

I wonder if you'll find anything better.


You must be correct because this is the right ng to ask.


There is familiarity to the character of your posts, and I have a strong
suspicion that given your various demands, that you live somewhere in
the Santa Cruz mountains above San Jose. With that suspicion I don't
have much hope for this thread ending tidily.




There is a strange gap in reason for wanting to make that type of
change. Even if it's for the purpose of bypassing certain competition
rules. (The most benign reason I can think of.)


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  #52  
Old May 5th 17, 07:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 5/5/17 1:00 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , dale
wrote:

| No need
| to use half-baked command line tools.

| thanks
|

I should note, also.... You may already know this,
but a lot of software will remove metadata normally.
If you save to any other format you lose all metadata.
If you edit you'll probably have a choice. I use 2
versions of Paint Shop Pro, 5 and 16. 16 has some
newer functions but the UI is a bloated mess, so I
often just use PSP5 for simple things. PSP5 doesn't
recognize metadata. It all gets dropped out on save.
Nice.



I'm using gimp


that's not even half-baked. that's still in the dough is rising stage.


the price is right for me

I once did a plugin too, hacked it from another very close to what I
wanted so it was easy

is Photoshop plugin SDK free? how do plug-ins work with cloud? someone
on this group said photoshop is cloud only now

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  #53  
Old May 5th 17, 07:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , dale
wrote:

| No need to use half-baked command line tools.

I should note, also.... You may already know this,
but a lot of software will remove metadata normally.
If you save to any other format you lose all metadata.
If you edit you'll probably have a choice. I use 2
versions of Paint Shop Pro, 5 and 16. 16 has some
newer functions but the UI is a bloated mess, so I
often just use PSP5 for simple things. PSP5 doesn't
recognize metadata. It all gets dropped out on save.
Nice.

I'm using gimp


that's not even half-baked. that's still in the dough is rising stage.


the price is right for me


you get what you pay for.

baked goods cost extra.

I once did a plugin too, hacked it from another very close to what I
wanted so it was easy

is Photoshop plugin SDK free?


yes

how do plug-ins work with cloud?


they don't, unless there's some reason for it to do so.

someone
on this group said photoshop is cloud only now


if someone said that, then they're horribly misinformed.
  #54  
Old May 5th 17, 09:48 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"dale" wrote

| I'm using gimp

I'm not sure, but I think you can choose whether
to save metadata with that.

| someone
| on this group said photoshop is cloud only now
|

Rental only. They pretend it's cloud, but real software
can't really run from cloud. Same with Office 365. You
still install it. The difference is that now it's spyware
and you don't get what you paid for. You have to pay
a monthly rental fee.

One could imagine that the cloudy part is online storage,
but even that's of no value. If you allow your work to be
stored in Adobe's remote system then you'll lose it all if
you quit their scam. So there's really nothing to recommend
it. You can't buy the software outright and you'd better
not use their online storage.
But there are a large number of graphic artists who always
think they have to have the very latest from Adobe. Enough
of them were suckered into giving up the real stuff and
renting the new version. Adobe fools enough of the people
enough of the time to make a bundle.


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Old May 5th 17, 09:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"PeterN" wrote

| There is a strange gap in reason for wanting to make that type of
| change. Even if it's for the purpose of bypassing certain competition
| rules. (The most benign reason I can think of.)
|

The OP seems to want to alter various things
randomly, for the sake of privacy. What's so
strange about that? Personally I'd just strip out
all the metadata, but there seems to be some
reason that he needs it.

There's a popular illusion of immutability here
that simply isn't accurate. Like PDFs or MS Word
docs, or just about any other digital file, the
idea that there's an authentic version just doesn't
hold. The metadata is just a bunch of info stored
willy nilly in the file header; done differently, if
at all, by different camera companies. If they're his
pictures then it's nobody's business to be able to
check that data. Being shown his pictures of his
daughter's wedding doesn't give you some kind of
right to know about camera, long/lat, date, etc.


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Old May 5th 17, 10:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Mayayana
wrote:

There's a popular illusion of immutability here
that simply isn't accurate. Like PDFs or MS Word
docs, or just about any other digital file, the
idea that there's an authentic version just doesn't
hold.


yes it does.

that's what codesigning is for.
  #57  
Old May 5th 17, 10:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Mayayana
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| someone
| on this group said photoshop is cloud only now

Rental only.


nope.

photoshop elements is *not* rental. it's a one-time purchase, and cheap
too, usually around $50ish street price.

They pretend it's cloud,


no they don't.

you also don't understand what that means.

but real software
can't really run from cloud.


it can.

however, photoshop doesn't run from the cloud. it runs locally, and
even without an internet connection.

Same with Office 365. You
still install it.


so it's not running from cloud.

The difference is that now it's spyware


it's not.

and you don't get what you paid for.


yes you do.

however, if for some reason you don't, file a claim with your credit
card issuer.

You have to pay
a monthly rental fee.


there is a free option for office 365.

One could imagine that the cloudy part is online storage,


or instead of imagining, one could find out exactly what it is and what
it isn't.

but even that's of no value.


it is to some people

If you allow your work to be
stored in Adobe's remote system then you'll lose it all if
you quit their scam.


nope. it's still on your hard drive.

So there's really nothing to recommend
it.


there's actually a lot to recommend.

You can't buy the software outright


yes you can.

and you'd better
not use their online storage.


optional.

But there are a large number of graphic artists who always
think they have to have the very latest from Adobe.


because they have actual work to get done and the latest version lets
them be more productive, which means more money in their pocket.

in other words, it pays for itself.

Enough
of them were suckered into giving up the real stuff and
renting the new version. Adobe fools enough of the people
enough of the time to make a bundle.


nobody is being fooled.

except you.
  #59  
Old May 6th 17, 12:57 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 5/5/17 4:48 PM, Mayayana wrote:
real software
can't really run from cloud


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_as_a_service

SaaS, software as a service?

I think there is also system as a service, don't recall the difference
between the acronyms

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Old May 6th 17, 01:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 5/5/2017 4:54 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"PeterN" wrote

| There is a strange gap in reason for wanting to make that type of
| change. Even if it's for the purpose of bypassing certain competition
| rules. (The most benign reason I can think of.)
|

The OP seems to want to alter various things
randomly, for the sake of privacy. What's so
strange about that? Personally I'd just strip out
all the metadata, but there seems to be some
reason that he needs it.

There's a popular illusion of immutability here
that simply isn't accurate. Like PDFs or MS Word
docs, or just about any other digital file, the
idea that there's an authentic version just doesn't
hold. The metadata is just a bunch of info stored
willy nilly in the file header; done differently, if
at all, by different camera companies. If they're his
pictures then it's nobody's business to be able to
check that data. Being shown his pictures of his
daughter's wedding doesn't give you some kind of
right to know about camera, long/lat, date, etc.



Striping all metadata is privacy. Then why does he want to write in his own.
End of my comment.

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