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Old July 13th 17, 01:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Werner
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Default Moving the Windows-Partition

Hello,

on my Chuwi vi8plus-Tablet I need to move the Windows 10-Partition to
MERGE it with the free space. Unfortunately fitting software costs more
than the whole Chuwi.

Is there a possibility to do it with free software? I need it only once.

FA
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Old July 13th 17, 05:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default Moving the Windows-Partition

On 13/07/2017 13:19, Frank Werner wrote:
Hello,

on my Chuwi vi8plus-Tablet I need to move the Windows 10-Partition to
MERGE it with the free space. Unfortunately fitting software costs
more than the whole Chuwi.

Is there a possibility to do it with free software? I need it only once.

FA


All windows operating system can do it free of charge:

https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=1284#win10

Always make a backup of important documents as for a newbie you are
likely to make mistakes first time.

Good luck.


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Old July 13th 17, 09:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Moving the Windows-Partition

Frank Werner wrote:
Hello,

on my Chuwi vi8plus-Tablet I need to move the Windows 10-Partition to
MERGE it with the free space. Unfortunately fitting software costs more
than the whole Chuwi.

Is there a possibility to do it with free software? I need it only once.

FA


Disk Management, if you click on a partition, has
"Shrink" command and "Expand" command. These can
easily create or reduce, adjacent space to the right
of the partition in question.

For best results, show us a *picture* of Disk Management,
for the disk you want to modify. As some manipulations
are going to need the services of a third-party
Partition Manager. And those must be tested very
carefully. Any time you acquire a brand new Partition
Manager, make a backup before you use it.

Paul
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Old July 14th 17, 01:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Tim[_8_]
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Default Moving the Windows-Partition

Paul wrote in news
Frank Werner wrote:
Hello,

on my Chuwi vi8plus-Tablet I need to move the Windows 10-Partition to
MERGE it with the free space. Unfortunately fitting software costs

more
than the whole Chuwi.

Is there a possibility to do it with free software? I need it only

once.

FA


Disk Management, if you click on a partition, has
"Shrink" command and "Expand" command. These can
easily create or reduce, adjacent space to the right
of the partition in question.

For best results, show us a *picture* of Disk Management,
for the disk you want to modify. As some manipulations
are going to need the services of a third-party
Partition Manager. And those must be tested very
carefully. Any time you acquire a brand new Partition
Manager, make a backup before you use it.

Paul

Yes, backup, backup, backup, then backup some more. Since this is a
tablet I am assuming you will have to get some sort of external storage
to do the backups. If you have an SD slot that might work if you can get
one large enough. Otherwise either a USB external SSD or HDD. Be aware
that your tablet might not be able to power up a HDD properly. If so,
they make cables that have both a micro USB plug and a micro USB jack
'Y'ed to a USB jack. Plug the micro USB plug into the table, the HDD into
the USB jack, and a regular USB charger into the micro USB jack. That way
the external charger will be supplying the power for the HDD.

I am making the assumption that the free space is on the same hard drive
as the Windows partion, and that there is nothing in the free space to be
saved.

In order to use the 'expand' command mentioned above, you will have to
destroy the free space partion and turn it back into unallocated space.
Then you can 'expand' the Windows partition to take up the additional
space that is now unallocated.
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Old July 14th 17, 09:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Werner
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Am 13.07.2017 um 15:15 schrieb Wolf K:

on my Chuwi vi8plus-Tablet I need to move the Windows 10-Partition to
MERGE it with the free space. Unfortunately fitting software costs more
than the whole Chuwi.

Is there a possibility to do it with free software? I need it only once.

FA


First of all, what free space? How do you know there is some?


I used the Windows-program "Disk Management". It shows the
Windows-Partition at the end of the disk. So I can not expand it for I
have to move it to the beginning of the disk. This is not possible with
"Disk Management".

I see no reason to ship a tablet with actual free space, so my advice is
to leave well enough alone.


There was a Android-Partition on the tablet too. I deleted it.
Reconstruction- and Boot-Partitions are allright and working.

FW
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Old July 14th 17, 09:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Werner
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Default Moving the Windows-Partition

Am 13.07.2017 um 18:18 schrieb Good Guy:

All windows operating system can do it free of charge:

https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=1284#win10

Always make a backup of important documents as for a newbie you are
likely to make mistakes first time.

Good luck.


Thank you but it can not MOVE a partition :-( .

FW
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Old July 14th 17, 09:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Werner
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Am 13.07.2017 um 22:45 schrieb Paul:

Is there a possibility to do it with free software? I need it only once.


Disk Management, if you click on a partition, has
"Shrink" command and "Expand" command. These can
easily create or reduce, adjacent space to the right
of the partition in question.


For best results, show us a *picture* of Disk Management,
for the disk you want to modify. As some manipulations
are going to need the services of a third-party
Partition Manager. And those must be tested very
carefully. Any time you acquire a brand new Partition
Manager, make a backup before you use it.


Backups are okay. But there is no data on the tablet and it is not my
only computer (not even my only tablet). So if it will not work for some
weeks, I don't care.

The tablet came with Android and Windows DualBoot. The Windows-partition
is at the end of the disk. I deleted the Android-partition because there
was not enough space to install updates for Windows 10.

Now I have free space at the beginning of the disk and no space at the
end of the disk. I can not expand or merge the Windows-partition and
therefore have no space left for Windows-Updates.

FW
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Old July 14th 17, 03:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Moving the Windows-Partition

Frank Werner wrote:


Backups are okay. But there is no data on the tablet and it is not my
only computer (not even my only tablet). So if it will not work for some
weeks, I don't care.

The tablet came with Android and Windows DualBoot. The Windows-partition
is at the end of the disk. I deleted the Android-partition because there
was not enough space to install updates for Windows 10.

Now I have free space at the beginning of the disk and no space at the
end of the disk. I can not expand or merge the Windows-partition and
therefore have no space left for Windows-Updates.

FW


OK, I'll try my hand at a picture. You correct this if
I got it wrong.

+-----+--------------+------------------+-----------------+
| MBR | Unallocated | Windows C: | System Reserved |
+-----+--------------+------------------+-----------------+

The Windows Disk Management cannot resize towards the left. The
built-in Expand only moves the right-hand edge, further to the right.
In other words, the spare space is on the wrong side of the C:
partition.

You need a third party partition manager for this.

Shown here, is Paragon Partition Manager 14 Free.

https://s2.postimg.org/ds20vlro9/resize.gif

In the preferences, set the alignment to the 1MB option
(i.e. Non-legacy). When the tool works, it uses the
"preference" to decide how partitions are aligned, and
for your modern 1MB disk, you don't want that left
on legacy (divisible by 63) setting. As that setting
is bad for Flash storage devices.

When the program first comes up, it's in Tile mode.
Click the appropriate tile (my upper right inset photo),
as shown in the picture, to show the "normal" mode.
Click the C: partition, select Move/Resize, and
extend the C: partition to the left.

Once you're happy with the dimensioning, there is an
"Apply" button in the upper left hand corner. Most of
these tools use the "Apply" concept, to help avoid accidents.
If you don't like the command you just set up, you could
Quit before hitting Apply, for example.

Paragon is a member of the "Ghost" family, when it
comes to working approach. In this case, it needs to
reboot, and come up in WinPE-like mode, while it
does the resize of C: . Don't panic when it reboots
the computer, and the screen looks "a bit old-fashioned".

Is it going to like whatever you're using for boot manager ?
I expect your setup is just a Win10 vanilla boot setup, so
I expect this will be OK. If GRUB is running things for some
reason, I don't know how this reboot will turn out.

It shouldn't take long to do, if you don't select
sector-by-sector move. As all it needs to do is
change the origin, move the file system header sector,
and resize the outside envelope. It really should not need to
move data, so there should be no lengthy moving step.

The reboot steps are likely to take more time
than any other step.

*******

http://download.cnet.com/Paragon-Par...-10904411.html

There should not be any adware in that one, as Paragon
is paying for the download.

The one I got was:

pm14free_x64_eng.exe 53,091,632 bytes

If you're using Windows 10 32-bit version, you're going
to need to find the 32-bit version on the same site. Google for

cnet paragon partition manager 14 free

HTH,
Paul
 




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