ipad to windows

can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

how?

Frank S wrote:
can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

how?

Without iTunes, you use a third-party application.

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https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3371288?start=0

"Step 4 of http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1538 checks if
the Apple Mobile Device USB driver is installed. This is
essential and a common source of problems. In at least some
cases, Windows will install the 'MTP USB' driver. Indeed,
Windows will reinstall this driver if you uninstall it. The
MTP USB driver is essentially a Windows bug (possibly caused --- idiot
by Microsoft). You MUST replace the MTP USB driver with the
Apple Mobile Device USB Driver. Step 4 explains how to do this.
Note that you MUST use the 'Have Disk' approach. Otherwise,
Windows will just reinstall the invalid MTP driver.

The Apple doc indicates that you can find the correct
driver at C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple\
Mobile Device Support\Drivers. Perhaps this is correct
on some systems. You may find the correct driver in
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\Drivers.
"

That is a hint, but also a poor analysis.

MTP is a basic protocol. It has DRM capabilities (as compared
to the original fully functional USB Mass Storage mechanism).
It's up to any device manufacturer to make sure their hardware
works with *basic* drivers.

In this case, the mis-behavior is an Apple problem,
not a Microsoft problem. Apple insists on a proprietary driver
to handle the "quirks" they inserted in the device on purpose ?
It's their problem.

Plenty of devices work without proprietary drivers, over
MTP. As long as the Microsoft driver is present, the device
can show up. If the "Do Not Copy" bit is set on some content
on the mobile device, you may find you are not allowed to
copy the content. The content provider, determines the setting.
The hardware manufacturers, simply honor the bit setting,
whatever the DRM mechanism provides.

Microsoft provides a set of "USB.org Class" drivers. In other
words, there are a number of fine, standardized USB protocols.
Microsoft "owns" its drivers and prevents hardware manufacturers
from shipping their own Windows drivers for the purpose. This
also means that Microsoft owns the existing quirks, whatever
they are. If an Etron chip isn't quite compatible with USB3,
in order for Microsoft to take away the right of Etron to
ship a driver for that, Microsoft makes sure the Etron quirks
list is handled properly in the driver.

So basically the idea is, if you're a hardware manufacturer,
it's up to you to "admit your sins" to Microsoft, so that
everybody wins. If you want your hardware to work with
a foreign OS, make sure you do your part to make it
happen, for a flawless customer experience. Does
Apple give a **** ??? Do I even have to address that ?

*******

Even though you don't have iTunes installed, you can still
download the installer file, use a copy of 7ZIP and find
the MSI with the Apple support driver in it.

https://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

iTunesSetup.exe 108,771,096 bytes

Open the file using 7ZIP (7-zip.org).

You'll see the following (right now).

AppleApplicationSupport.msi 34,521,088
AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi 10,858,496 ---
AppleSoftwareupdate.msi 2,379,776
Bonjour.msi 2,358,784
iTunes.msi 67,940,352
SetupAdmin.exe 77,080

You could *try* extracting just the one I've marked
with an arrow, and install that, then connect your
Apple device via USB.

However, in previous testing, I've noticed clever
"dependencies" inserted, to prevent cannibalization
of the software and the usage of just one MSI from the set.
Each time a new version of iTunes comes out, you'll need
to do your own testing, to see what will work and
what won't work. It's considered a win, if you
don't have to install the iTunes MSI file.

If you take AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi over into
Linux WINE, you can run the installer and see the
basic, properly named, file set. Or maybe use the
tool Mayayana wrote, to see what's in there.

At some level, you should be able to "carve out" just
the driver portion. But I'm not going to spoil the
surprise by doing the work for you. To be honest
with you, I'm even sick of the word "iTunes", because
of the amount of time I've wasted already over the
years, tearing that mother apart.

I would sooner just take a large rock and "smash"
standards-noncompliant hardware and "lock-box behavior".
because it's a waste of time. This is also the reason
I cannot be "100% behind" Windows 10. Because it's
a consumer-antagonistic OS. But since I have plenty
of OS options here, I don't have to get worked into
a lather about it. I have options. I can afford to
treat Windows 10 as "just a bad experiment".

Have fun,
Paul

Frank S wrote:

can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv
files from windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable
without itunes?

how?

Any responders... Please do not remove the Windows group, I
really want to see the "answers". Thanks.

Frank S wrote:
can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

how?


HooToo pendrive ? One end - usb , other end - ios . Or any other make .
HooToo can be expensive .

On Jul 14, 2017, jim wrote
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Frank wrote:
can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

how?

HooToo pendrive ? One end - usb , other end - ios . Or any other make .
HooToo can be expensive .

Sandisk iXpand. I have the 128GB edition.
https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-device-storage/ixpand

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Regards,
Savageduck

Savageduck wrote:

Frank S wrote:

can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

Sandisk iXpand.

Have Apple relaxed the restrictions on reading/writing/launching files
on USB (or rather Lightning) sticks? Genuine question ...

On Jul 15, 2017, Andy Burns wrote
(in article ):

Savageduck wrote:

Frank S wrote:

can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

Sandisk iXpand.

Have Apple relaxed the restrictions on reading/writing/launching files
on USB (or rather Lightning) sticks? Genuine question ...

I have no knowledge of Apple’s policy with regard to Lightning Flash sticks
such as the iXpand. However, with the help of the iXpand app, my experience
has proven to be issue free. For my last extended travels in
December-January, I had 12 movies converted to m4v using Handbrake, loaded
onto my 128GB iXpand, along with some music. I was able to view those from
within the iXpand app without issue.I could have transfered those files to my
iOS devices (I did for 1 m4v) but there was no perceptible impact on playback
performance, so I saved the space.

I was also able to backup all photos shot with my iPhone to theiXpand.

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Regards,
Savageduck

On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 02:31:50 +0000 (UTC), Frank S
wrote:

can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

how?

Its not possible to transfer 12 gigabits out of 4 gigabits.

It is possible and normal to capitalise the first letter of a
sentence.

Frank S:
can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

how?

"Lucifer Morningstar:"
Its not possible to transfer 12 gigabits out of 4 gigabits.

It is possible and normal to capitalise the first letter of a
sentence.

It is also possible and normal to manage an iPad via iTunes. As for
AVI, I don't know whether the iPad supports off-brand, non-standard
formats.

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On 15/07/2017 15:31, Davoud wrote:
[] It is also possible and normal to manage an iPad via iTunes. As for
AVI, I don't know whether the iPad supports off-brand, non-standard
formats.

AVI (like other video files), can contain various video formats
internally. I use VLC Media player on the iPad which can handle most
video formats.

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Cheers,
David
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On 2017-07-15, Frank S wrote:
can I one time transfer about 12gb of 4gb video avi & mkv files from
windows to the ipad over usb lightning cable without itunes?

how?

Not worth the trouble in my experience. I've installed iTunes on many
different versions of Windows on many different PCs through the years
since the 2000s, and haven't ever had the so-called "rampant" problems
with it professed by scaremongering Apple haters. Even on systems where
I'd rather not have iTunes permanently installed, it's always been a
simple matter to install iTunes, use it for whatever I need, then remove
iTunes when I am done. I suspect many within the vocal minority of
people who do report problems with iTunes are either experiencing PEBKAC
or errors due to other conflicting/malfunctioning software.

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In news David Taylor said:

I use VLC Media player on the iPad

your vlc on ipad wifi upload windows to ipad answer work so easy!
no cord! one step! so simple!
thks!

In ,
Jolly Roger said:

Not worth the trouble in my experience.

vlc worked good with this action for mp4 but not mkv video files
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ditch-i...ne-ipad-media/

all tried mp4 files transferred over no problem.
only every mkv files fail to transfer over vlc on wifi from windows

inside mkv container is
video Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
audio Codec ID: A_AAC

vlc says it supports mkv container & mp4 and aac so maybe iOS problem?
VLC: http://www.videolan.org/

do you know the solution to iOS mkv problem?

On 15/07/2017 17:31:12, Frank S wrote:
In news David Taylor said:

I use VLC Media player on the iPad

your vlc on ipad wifi upload windows to ipad
answer work so easy! no cord! one step! so
simple! thks!

I use File Explorer Pro on the iPad, available from the store.
Upload and download anything from ipad to windows or windows to ipad via wifi.

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mick

On 15/07/2017 20:53:27, mick wrote:
On 15/07/2017 17:31:12, Frank S wrote:
In news Taylor said:

I use VLC Media player on the iPad

your vlc on ipad wifi upload windows to ipad
answer work so easy! no cord! one step! so
simple! thks!

I use File Explorer Pro on the iPad, available
from the store.
Upload and download anything from ipad to
windows or windows to ipad via wifi.

File Explorer Pro by Skyjos

--
mick