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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
Full story: https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/#1bfa5ed12db1 Microsoft MSFT +0.44% has always described Windows 10 “as a service” and leaks have already revealed new monthly charges are coming. Of course, for Windows 7 owners this was never something they expected to pay. But times change… In a new blog post entitled “Helping customers shift to a modern desktop”, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe. If this date rings a bell, that’s because it is the day Microsoft will end ‘Extended Support’ for Windows 7 according to the company’s Lifecycle page. This means no more patches or security updates unless, as we now learn, you pay. Furthermore, Microsoft says it will increase the cost of this every year. ..... more .... -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 ¤£*ɶU! ¤£¶BÄF! ¤£½ä¿ú! ¤£´©¥æ! ¤£¥´¥æ! ¤£¥´§T! ¤£¦Û±þ! ¤£¨D¯«! ½Ð¦Ò¼{ºî´© (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Microsoft's Windows 7 Extended Support Pricing Announced
Microsoft's Windows 7 Extended Support Pricing Announced
Full story: https://www.petri.com/microsofts-windows-7-extended-support-pricing-announced With less than a year of support for Windows 7, Microsoft has begun heavily pushing Microsoft 365 and other programs that they hope will entice customers who have yet to migrate. But for those who have not made the move or plan on sticking with Windows 7, pricing for extended support has been announced. As with the previous version of Windows, pricing will double each year after the expiration of public support for the operating system. Pricing is listed below: Windows 7 Extended Security Updates * Year 1 (January 2020 through January 2021): Windows 7 Pro is $50 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $25 per device. * Year 2 (January 2021 through January 2022): Windows 7 Pro is $100 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $50 per device. * Year 3 (January 2022 through January 2023): Windows 7 Pro is $200 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $100 per device. ..... more .... -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 ¤£*ɶU! ¤£¶BÄF! ¤£½ä¿ú! ¤£´©¥æ! ¤£¥´¥æ! ¤£¥´§T! ¤£¦Û±þ! ¤£¨D¯«! ½Ð¦Ò¼{ºî´© (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
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-- "Mr. Man-wai Chang" toylet.toylet gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!toylet.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" toylet.toylet gmail.com Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.conspiracy Subject: Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:00:39 +0800 Organization: Hung Hom, Kowloon, Hong Kong Lines: 33 Message-ID: q3rv67$hti$1 toylet.eternal-september.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:00:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: toylet.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8a0b1acb0b8d86d5a8003c96809ec6df"; logging-data="18354"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+STgY0dUfkOnb+68wZnmf/" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:jG3OdwBGTxIBRTw1Ycdr8R4QAw4= Content-Language: en-US X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.eternal-september.org:119 Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org alt.windows7.general:178670 alt.comp.os.windows-10:88568 alt.comp.freewa324823 alt.conspiracy:370895 Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge Full story: https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/#1bfa5ed12db1 Microsoft MSFT +0.44% has always described Windows 10 oas a service and leaks have already revealed new monthly charges are coming. Of course, for Windows 7 owners this was never something they expected to pay. But times change In a new blog post entitled oHelping customers shift to a modern desktop , Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe. If this date rings a bell, that Ts because it is the day Microsoft will end ~Extended Support T for Windows 7 according to the company Ts Lifecycle page. This means no more patches or security updates unless, as we now learn, you pay. Furthermore, Microsoft says it will increase the cost of this every year. .... more .... -- ~ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 ϶%U! ϶B"F! ϶϶ǧ! ϶ﶸ! ϶ﶾ! ϶T! ϶Ƕ! ϶D! '{ǩﶸ (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
[snip] In a new blog post entitled “Helping customers shift to a modern desktop”, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe. This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS. [snip[ -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Faith is believing something you know ain't true." - Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
pjp wrote in
: In article , lid says... On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: [snip] In a new blog post entitled ?Helping customers shift to a modern desktop?, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe. This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS. [snip[ When I became a beta tester for 98 I once stated it was MS's intent to eventually charge for everytime you use their software. That's what Bill Gates once said a long time ago, e.g. he was entitled for payment everytime you used the software and not just the once when purchased. It's MS's intent to force the industry into this model wether it best for their customers or not. Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death. Sorry but FUC*K THAT. I don't usually comment on the validity of a post, but what we have here is an example of a response being fired off after mis/not reading the original post and not doing any kind of research on the validity of the content. As not@mail, stated, the proposed charge is if a user still running Windows 7 wants to continue to receive security updates, they will have to pay for it, since Windows 7 is about five versions back or so, if one counts the semiannual updates of Windows 10 as new versions. If Microsoft really tried to bill for the continued use of Windows 7 intself it would be violating its own Terms of Use, and would more than likely face a raft of lawsuits from corporate users still using the platform. Microsoft has fully depreciated the capital cost of Windows 7 and its term of support, and has no legal basis to start charging a user fee for continued use. But it would be interesting to see them try it. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 2/11/2019 4:33 PM, lonelydad wrote:
pjp wrote in : In article , lid says... On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: [snip] In a new blog post entitled ?Helping customers shift to a modern desktop?, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe. This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS. [snip[ When I became a beta tester for 98 I once stated it was MS's intent to eventually charge for everytime you use their software. That's what Bill Gates once said a long time ago, e.g. he was entitled for payment everytime you used the software and not just the once when purchased. It's MS's intent to force the industry into this model wether it best for their customers or not. Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death. Sorry but FUC*K THAT. I don't usually comment on the validity of a post, but what we have here is an example of a response being fired off after mis/not reading the original post and not doing any kind of research on the validity of the content. As not@mail, stated, the proposed charge is if a user still running Windows 7 wants to continue to receive security updates, they will have to pay for it, since Windows 7 is about five versions back or so, if one counts the semiannual updates of Windows 10 as new versions. If Microsoft really tried to bill for the continued use of Windows 7 intself it would be violating its own Terms of Use, and would more than likely face a raft of lawsuits from corporate users still using the platform. Microsoft has fully depreciated the capital cost of Windows 7 and its term of support, and has no legal basis to start charging a user fee for continued use. But it would be interesting to see them try it. They're already doing it. They're dropping support. They're changing stuff so that it won't run on win7. Hardware and software vendors won't continue support indefinitely. Office 365. YOU will be running win10 eventually, at least for stuff that requires it... or you'll do without that capability. There's enough business usage to support MS. Non-business apps guarantee a supply of workers that know how to use MS products and business can't justify the training required to move to linux, except in specific tightly controlled environments. It will be interesting to see how business reacts when new recruits have no computer experience beyond twitter. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
In article , Mike
wrote: Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death. Sorry but FUC*K THAT. It's inevitable. it is not. The cellphone model already does that. it does not. Want data? No problem. Fork over $40 a line for 4 lines and get lotsa data, whether you use it or not. wifi at home and/or work is free, as are most public wifi hotspots. get a pay for what you use data plan for the phone, or none at all if rarely away from wifi. Somebody has to pay for that Superbowl commercial. not relevant. Linux has not offered a viable alternative for the desktop. yep. Android has the phone market. as does ios. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote:
Linux*has*not*offered*a*viable*alternative* for*the*desktop. Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows. I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it. What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5% of the application base as Windows, if that. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
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says... pjp wrote in : In article , lid says... On 2/11/19 8:00 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: [snip] In a new blog post entitled ?Helping customers shift to a modern desktop?, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe. This SHOULD refer to security updates, not permission to use the OS. [snip[ When I became a beta tester for 98 I once stated it was MS's intent to eventually charge for everytime you use their software. That's what Bill Gates once said a long time ago, e.g. he was entitled for payment everytime you used the software and not just the once when purchased. It's MS's intent to force the industry into this model wether it best for their customers or not. Want to use Word for an hour, that'll be $1.00 please, tack on another dollar for "whatever". etc. etc. they'll nickel and dime us to death. Sorry but FUC*K THAT. I don't usually comment on the validity of a post, but what we have here is an example of a response being fired off after mis/not reading the original post and not doing any kind of research on the validity of the content. As not@mail, stated, the proposed charge is if a user still running Windows 7 wants to continue to receive security updates, they will have to pay for it, since Windows 7 is about five versions back or so, if one counts the semiannual updates of Windows 10 as new versions. If Microsoft really tried to bill for the continued use of Windows 7 intself it would be violating its own Terms of Use, and would more than likely face a raft of lawsuits from corporate users still using the platform. Microsoft has fully depreciated the capital cost of Windows 7 and its term of support, and has no legal basis to start charging a user fee for continued use. But it would be interesting to see them try it. And my response is still that it's MS's long term "plan" to charge to use and never "own" anything. Win7 and security updates is just the first of many to come. And my take is "the product clearly had defects when it was "sold" to me otherwise there'd be no need for fixes" therefore they are obligated to fix any and all problems for "eternity". If not then they should be legally obligated to release the source code to public domain so others can instead. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
In article , pjp
wrote: I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire. Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an hour away. you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r ecord-237-miles/ WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382 kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 02/11/2019 8:26 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , pjp wrote: I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire. Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an hour away. you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r ecord-237-miles/ WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382 kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone. Rene |
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