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  #16  
Old February 14th 19, 10:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:14:32 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:56:45 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:34:59 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 11:10:07 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:17:09 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

I'm not sure what you're trying to explain, but I run 90+% of my
applications full screen. It's a heck of a lot easier to switch back and
forth that way than to try to find the right window and bring it
forward. The only exceptions to the full screen rule that I can think of
off hand are Agent and Putty.



Interesting. I'm the exact opposite. I run 0% of my
applications full screen.

I have two 24" monitors, and on each screen I always have three
applications running, each covering about 80% of the full screen. The
upper left-hand corners of them all stick out behind the others and
it's very easy to click a corner and have it come forward.

Then you're doing something that I haven't figured out. g
When I arrange 3 windows that way, clicking on the second or third
window indeed brings that window to the front, but now the window that
was on top is hidden behind the window that is now on top. How do you
bring a window to the front and have it automatically move so that it
doesn't block the parts of the other windows that you want to use to
bring them forward?




It doesn't move, automatically or any other way. It's how the three
are arranged. Their upper left hand corners look like this

____
|
_|___
|
_|_____
|
|


Got it, thanks very much. I won't be changing the way I use Windows, but
it's nice to see how others do it. I'm also thinking that if your
windows cover 80% of the screen and mine cover 100%, we aren't that far
apart.



You're welcome. I'm not trying to convince you to change, but finding
the program I want out of the three little corners is for me a lot
easier than finding the one I want on a row of 27 icons.

By the way, my wife also runs everything on her computer full screen,
but she runs a lot fewer programs than I do, and has a lot fewer icons
on her task bar.



On a related note, I always set the Task Bar to Never Combine taskbar
icons. That gives me a view of each application and access to any of
them with a single click.



Same for me. And I have the task bar on the lefthand side of the
screen, rather than the bottom. That provides room for many more icons


I've tried left side, right side, and even top, but I always come back
to bottom.




We're all different.
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  #17  
Old February 15th 19, 12:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

John Doe wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/?

That after a clean install of Windows 10 (nearly 1809).

It is slightly better than my installation, but still garbage.

Putting three windows "side by side" according to the current
geniuses at Microsoft means putting one window covering the upper
half of the left half of the screen, and the other two windows
covering about two thirds of the right half and stacked one on top
of the other.

Can they be that idiotic? Or are they just trying to cover for their
ineptness?

It's like we live in the age of idiotic, or perhaps drug crazed,
programmers. Google loves screwing with YouTube, about every
other day you can notice them messing with it. I would like to
scramble their programming tools and see how they like it.


What are the odds that "Aero Snap" is doing that ?

Find the panel with all the tick boxes for screen features.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

Paul
  #18  
Old February 15th 19, 12:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jonathan N. Little[_2_]
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

John Doe wrote:
No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally sucks.

After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another
Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side-
by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on top of the
other on the left half of the screen.

Freaking idiots.

After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they haven't
bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal of turning the
desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their average idiot peer user
does not need to arrange windows on their microscopic smartphone screen,
so the current managers of Windows couldn't care less that arranging
windows is dysfunctional.


Have more than one monitor and see what happens... They want to use the
WinKey+Arrow thing.

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Old February 15th 19, 10:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Stephen Wolstenholme[_6_]
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:04:33 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

I've tried left side, right side, and even top, but I always come back
to bottom.




We're all different.


I think my main difference is that I use the keyboard rather than the
mouse.

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  #20  
Old February 15th 19, 12:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 21:04:22 -0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/?

That after a clean install of Windows 10 (nearly 1809).

It is slightly better than my installation, but still garbage.

Putting three windows "side by side" according to the current
geniuses at Microsoft means putting one window covering the upper
half of the left half of the screen, and the other two windows
covering about two thirds of the right half and stacked one on top
of the other.

Can they be that idiotic? Or are they just trying to cover for their
ineptness?

It's like we live in the age of idiotic, or perhaps drug crazed,
programmers. Google loves screwing with YouTube, about every
other day you can notice them messing with it. I would like to
scramble their programming tools and see how they like it.

I wrote:

No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally
sucks.

After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another
Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows
side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on
top of the other on the left half of the screen.

Freaking idiots.

After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they
haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal
of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their
average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their
microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows
couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional.


There are several software solutions to your problem, see eg
https://www.online-tech-tips.com/fre...ultiple-parts/
- or try Aquasnap.
  #21  
Old February 15th 19, 07:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
John Doe[_8_]
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

It's not just my problem it's a Windows problem.

I do not want to divide my Desktop, I want to arrange windows like
we have always been able to do up until Microsoft's current inept
management. Arranging windows is what Windows is all about, really.
That's why it's called "Windows".

Problem is, Microsoft's current management wants to turn the PC
into a smartphone. No need to arrange windows on a tiny little
smartphone screen since apps are almost always full screen. That's
why Microsoft couldn't care less about the mess.




mechanic wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 21:04:22 -0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/?

That after a clean install of Windows 10 (nearly 1809).

It is slightly better than my installation, but still garbage.

Putting three windows "side by side" according to the current
geniuses at Microsoft means putting one window covering the upper
half of the left half of the screen, and the other two windows
covering about two thirds of the right half and stacked one on top
of the other.

Can they be that idiotic? Or are they just trying to cover for their
ineptness?

It's like we live in the age of idiotic, or perhaps drug crazed,
programmers. Google loves screwing with YouTube, about every
other day you can notice them messing with it. I would like to
scramble their programming tools and see how they like it.

I wrote:

No longer being able to arrange windows on the desktop royally
sucks.

After a restart... The desktop is empty. Open Chrome. Open another
Chrome window. Right-click on the Taskbar and select "Show windows
side- by-side". The damn thing puts the two Chrome windows one on
top of the other on the left half of the screen.

Freaking idiots.

After they screwed up window arrangement on the desktop, they
haven't bothered fixing it, because it doesn't further their goal
of turning the desktop into a smartphone. In other words, their
average idiot peer user does not need to arrange windows on their
microscopic smartphone screen, so the current managers of Windows
couldn't care less that arranging windows is dysfunctional.


There are several software solutions to your problem, see eg
https://www.online-tech-tips.com/fre...ultiple-parts/
- or try Aquasnap.


  #22  
Old February 15th 19, 07:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
John Doe[_8_]
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:


Putting three windows "side by side" according to the current
geniuses at Microsoft means putting one window covering the upper
half of the left half of the screen, and the other two windows
covering about two thirds of the right half and stacked one on
top of the other.

Can they be that idiotic? Or are they just trying to cover for
their ineptness?

It's like we live in the age of idiotic, or perhaps drug crazed,
programmers. Google loves screwing with YouTube, about every
other day you can notice them messing with it. I would like to
scramble their programming tools and see how they like it.


What are the odds that "Aero Snap" is doing that ?


Windows is doing that, Paul.

Find the panel with all the tick boxes for screen features.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html


I'm sure you know how to do this, but...

Slam your pointer to the lower right corner and click, to clear the
desktop. Open a small window to make sure auxiliary windows do not
pop up automatically. If they do, close them.

Open one instance of WordPad.
Open two more instances of WordPad.
Right-click on an open area on the Taskbar and select "Show windows side-by-side".

Something is very wrong at Microsoft. I wonder why they chose
to leave half of the screen blank. But I really don't want to know.











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Old February 15th 19, 09:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ant[_3_]
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Default Most annoying post-Gates/Ballmer screwup: Can't arrange windows

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:04:33 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:


I've tried left side, right side, and even top, but I always come back
to bottom.




We're all different.


I think my main difference is that I use the keyboard rather than the
mouse.


I use both.
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