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  #16  
Old February 8th 15, 02:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Joe Morris
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Default Is the iso safe?

"Paul" wrote:

Use the purported MD5 value, to guess at what
is being offered. Only accept an ISO, for which
an official SHA1 sum is offered. The MD5 can be
used for tracking tasks, but cannot be trusted for authentication.


SHA-1 isn't completely reliable either, but it's a lot better than MD5.

Popping the checksum into Google, gives these references.
What does "VL" stand for ? Bueller ?


The string "VL" in the ISO filename indicates that the image is for volume
license customers.

en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x86_dvd_2972633
en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x64_dvd_2971948


The filenames, including the image identifier at the end, match those of the
VL images offered from the MSDN download site.

Joe


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  #17  
Old February 8th 15, 03:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
T
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Default Is the iso safe?

On 02/07/2015 04:23 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 04:05 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


Hi Guy,

Took me a minute to realize that I had to click the create
media button to download a utility that lets me pick
what I want. I was looking for the ISO itself.

Oh, and the utility laid an egg when I tried to run it from
Wine. Chuckle, Chuckle.

I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it?

Thank you for helping me with this. Way easier than the stuff
I found on Google.

-T



The turkey is sitting there at 0% for the last 1/2 hour


How long does this thing take to run?
  #18  
Old February 8th 15, 06:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Is the iso safe?

On 2/7/2015 6:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?


Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


"Your PC has Windows 8 but the info on this page is about Windows 8.1.
Update now to Windows 8.1 for free."


Ummm....I'm running 8.1. That's pretty f'ed up for people that are
running 8.1 and don't know it.
  #19  
Old February 8th 15, 07:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default Is the iso safe?

T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 04:23 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 04:05 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


Hi Guy,

Took me a minute to realize that I had to click the create
media button to download a utility that lets me pick
what I want. I was looking for the ISO itself.

Oh, and the utility laid an egg when I tried to run it from
Wine. Chuckle, Chuckle.

I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it?

Thank you for helping me with this. Way easier than the stuff
I found on Google.

-T



The turkey is sitting there at 0% for the last 1/2 hour


How long does this thing take to run?


If you start over, by getting the tool from an "en-US" page,
does it work better ? I can't imagine the British executable
being different than the US one. They would need to download
a different ISO, but that should be determine dynamically,
rather than relying on what page you got the tool from.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...-refresh-media

Looking at strings.txt inside the executable, it makes reference
to ESD USB and ESD ISO. Which suggests the download you
get, will have a single Windows image in it, with an
install.esd container (encrypted). It self-decrypts and
installs, so that's not a problem. It's a case of not
uploading it for others to torrent (as Microsoft would
have a record of what license key was used to operate
that download tool). And the error messages in the strings.txt
file make reference to a key, so you need a valid Win8 key
to operate the tool. (That means, it should not be accepting
the known install-only keys.) It if had a problem with
the key, it should tell you that right away.

Paul
  #20  
Old February 8th 15, 09:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston‫
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Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


Be nice if it had SP1 installed too


I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which
used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows
8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned.


Windwos 8 SP1 does not exist.

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  #21  
Old February 8th 15, 09:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston‫
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Default Is the iso safe?

T wrote:


I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it?


SP1 doesn't exist. No such thing.

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  #22  
Old February 8th 15, 09:22 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
T
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Default Is the iso safe?

On 02/08/2015 12:14 AM, "...winston‫" wrote:
Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

Be nice if it had SP1 installed too


I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which
used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows
8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned.


Windwos 8 SP1 does not exist.


[expletive deleted]

Thank you for confirming.
  #23  
Old February 8th 15, 06:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tough Guy no. 1265
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Default Is the iso safe?

On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 02:37:15 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 04:23 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 04:05 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


Hi Guy,

Took me a minute to realize that I had to click the create
media button to download a utility that lets me pick
what I want. I was looking for the ISO itself.

Oh, and the utility laid an egg when I tried to run it from
Wine. Chuckle, Chuckle.

I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it?

Thank you for helping me with this. Way easier than the stuff
I found on Google.

-T



The turkey is sitting there at 0% for the last 1/2 hour


How long does this thing take to run?


Turkeys can't run when in the oven, it's too hot.

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  #24  
Old February 8th 15, 06:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tough Guy no. 1265
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 05:38:40 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 2/7/2015 6:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


"Your PC has Windows 8 but the info on this page is about Windows 8.1.
Update now to Windows 8.1 for free."


Ummm....I'm running 8.1. That's pretty f'ed up for people that are
running 8.1 and don't know it.


Try using IE. M$ pages never work right with any other browser, it won't have detected your OS correctly.

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  #25  
Old February 8th 15, 08:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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On 2/8/2015 12:45 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 05:38:40 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 2/7/2015 6:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


"Your PC has Windows 8 but the info on this page is about Windows 8.1.
Update now to Windows 8.1 for free."


Ummm....I'm running 8.1. That's pretty f'ed up for people that are
running 8.1 and don't know it.


Try using IE. M$ pages never work right with any other browser, it
won't have detected your OS correctly.


You are correct. Still messed up though if you are using another
browser. Someone could end up installing the 8.1 update on top of 8.1.
  #26  
Old February 8th 15, 09:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tough Guy no. 1265
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:15:15 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 2/8/2015 12:45 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 05:38:40 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 2/7/2015 6:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


"Your PC has Windows 8 but the info on this page is about Windows 8.1.
Update now to Windows 8.1 for free."


Ummm....I'm running 8.1. That's pretty f'ed up for people that are
running 8.1 and don't know it.


Try using IE. M$ pages never work right with any other browser, it
won't have detected your OS correctly.


You are correct. Still messed up though if you are using another
browser.


M$ do not care for people using the "wrong browser".

Someone could end up installing the 8.1 update on top of 8.1.


I assume it just wouldn't install.

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  #27  
Old February 9th 15, 04:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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Default Is the iso safe?

On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 17:45:27 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 05:38:40 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 2/7/2015 6:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


"Your PC has Windows 8 but the info on this page is about Windows 8.1.
Update now to Windows 8.1 for free."


Ummm....I'm running 8.1. That's pretty f'ed up for people that are
running 8.1 and don't know it.


Try using IE. M$ pages never work right with any other browser, it won't have detected your OS correctly.


Firefox 35.0.1 worked fine here on two PCs, one running 7 and the other
running 8.1.

  #28  
Old February 9th 15, 08:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Ron wrote:

You are correct. Still messed up though if you are using another
browser. Someone could end up installing the 8.1 update on top of 8.1.


The 8.1 update is a composite of different required KB updates. The 8.1
update is KB 'smart'. If those KB's are already installed then
attempting to reinstall 8.1 on top will fail. If only some of the KB's
are present and not others, then the missing KB's will install.

Note: If some of the missing KB's fail to install then the Windows
component store is most likely corrupted necessitating a component store
repair prior to allowing the missing KB's to be installed.



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  #29  
Old February 12th 15, 09:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tough Guy no. 1265
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:30:42 -0000, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 17:45:27 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 05:38:40 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 2/7/2015 6:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


"Your PC has Windows 8 but the info on this page is about Windows 8.1.
Update now to Windows 8.1 for free."


Ummm....I'm running 8.1. That's pretty f'ed up for people that are
running 8.1 and don't know it.


Try using IE. M$ pages never work right with any other browser, it won't have detected your OS correctly.


Firefox 35.0.1 worked fine here on two PCs, one running 7 and the other
running 8.1.


Some browsers report themselves differently. The site probably doesn't work for all of them. In fact Opera can pretend to be IE so some pages work.

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