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  #61  
Old October 3rd 13, 03:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_71_]
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On 10/3/2013 4:29 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:54:49 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2jpf3$udd$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/3/2013 2:48 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/3/13 3:50 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/3/2013 3:23 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 7:08 PM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Oct 2013, Alias wrote
in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

On 10/2/2013 8:15 PM, Nil wrote:
And that makes it all right?

No, but what in the world is all right today?

So, you admit that it's not right to take the man's software without
paying for it. Then why do you support that?

It's not in his pocket. I personally have no use for the program.
What I do can't be stolen.

You're avoiding the issue. You seem to support people taking software
that doesn't belong to them. Do you also support people taking things
from you that don't belong to them?

Doubt if you get a sensible answer. I asked him if he had anything he
wanted me to steal from him, all he did was ask if I was naive.






No, I asked have you been this naive all your life. Your being naive
wasn't in question.

You do not know me, or if I am naive.


I know you're being naive.

I know I'm honest, are you?


Really? You've never told a lie?

But
we know you appear to be a thief.


No, it's legal and not theft to use a copy of software, music or videos
where I live. I am not depriving the owners of their software. They
still have it and no one stole it from them.


No, you are depriving them of the fruits of their labor - that is,
payment for the service they provided to you by writing the software,
performing the music, etc.


You're assuming one would buy if one couldn't download it.

In civilized countries, that is considered
theft.


And to which "civilized" countries are you referring?

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.
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  #62  
Old October 3rd 13, 06:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:54:12 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2k0et$756$2
@dont-email.me...

On 10/3/2013 4:00 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 01:09:30 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2i93f$2e7$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 7:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:14:36 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2hka2$19r$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 6:23 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron
wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't
mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like
Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft.
You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?

Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft. The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.



Give me a ****ing break and get off your high moral horse. No one
steals, right? Not Wall Street, not the politicians, the oil companies,
the banks?

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a big part of what is wrong with our
society today - "it's OK for me to steal since those folks did bad
things too! See, I'm entitled!"

Doesn't matter if the law provides you an exemption. Doesn't matter if
someone else is doing wrong. Doesn't matter if you can justify it to
yourself. It is still wrong.


And you're still on your high moral horse as if you were a bloody saint.
How does it feel to be morally perfect?


Never said I was morally perfect.


Then don't throw stones.



Only those without fault can find error in another? That would pretty
well eliminate the entire justice system. Sorry, I don't ascribe to
such nonsense.


I strive toward that high mark
however, yet I'm constantly aware of my failings. The difference,
apparently, is that I recognize them as failings.


If you hadn't eaten for a week, would you steal food?



So you are saying your theft of software is the moral equivalent of
stealing food for survival? That is ludicrous.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.
  #63  
Old October 3rd 13, 06:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:56:17 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2k0iq$756$3
@dont-email.me...

On 10/3/2013 4:29 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:54:49 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2jpf3$udd$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/3/2013 2:48 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/3/13 3:50 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/3/2013 3:23 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 7:08 PM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Oct 2013, Alias wrote
in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

On 10/2/2013 8:15 PM, Nil wrote:
And that makes it all right?

No, but what in the world is all right today?

So, you admit that it's not right to take the man's software without
paying for it. Then why do you support that?

It's not in his pocket. I personally have no use for the program.
What I do can't be stolen.

You're avoiding the issue. You seem to support people taking software
that doesn't belong to them. Do you also support people taking things
from you that don't belong to them?

Doubt if you get a sensible answer. I asked him if he had anything he
wanted me to steal from him, all he did was ask if I was naive.






No, I asked have you been this naive all your life. Your being naive
wasn't in question.

You do not know me, or if I am naive.

I know you're being naive.

I know I'm honest, are you?

Really? You've never told a lie?

But
we know you appear to be a thief.


No, it's legal and not theft to use a copy of software, music or videos
where I live. I am not depriving the owners of their software. They
still have it and no one stole it from them.


No, you are depriving them of the fruits of their labor - that is,
payment for the service they provided to you by writing the software,
performing the music, etc.


You're assuming one would buy if one couldn't download it.



No, I'm asserting that you have no moral right to make use of it
without paying for it. Whether or not you would pay for it if you
couldn't easily steal it is immaterial.


In civilized countries, that is considered
theft.


And to which "civilized" countries are you referring?


Apparently, not yours.


--
Zaphod

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt
  #64  
Old October 3rd 13, 07:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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Posts: 7,485
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:54:49 +0200, Alias wrote:

But
we know you appear to be a thief.


No, it's legal and not theft to use a copy of software, music or videos
where I live. I am not depriving the owners of their software. They
still have it and no one stole it from them. Can we add logic impaired
to your naivety?


You *are* denying the creator of the software income from his software.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
  #66  
Old October 3rd 13, 07:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ed Cryer
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Posts: 2,621
Default Classic Shell

Alias wrote:
On 10/3/2013 4:00 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 01:09:30 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2i93f$2e7$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 7:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:14:36 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2hka2$19r$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 6:23 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message ,
Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron
wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I
don't
mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like
Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit,
downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft.
You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or
do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still
theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what
they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?

Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft.
The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.



Give me a ****ing break and get off your high moral horse. No one
steals, right? Not Wall Street, not the politicians, the oil
companies,
the banks?

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a big part of what is wrong with our
society today - "it's OK for me to steal since those folks did bad
things too! See, I'm entitled!"

Doesn't matter if the law provides you an exemption. Doesn't matter if
someone else is doing wrong. Doesn't matter if you can justify it to
yourself. It is still wrong.


And you're still on your high moral horse as if you were a bloody saint.
How does it feel to be morally perfect?


Never said I was morally perfect.


Then don't throw stones.


He's not throwing stones; he's teaching.
What are you going to tell kids? "Well, it's wrong to steal; except
maybe in circumstance A or possibly a combination of circumstance B with
C (provided that circumstances T and Y have previously occurred)."
No! You teach them the moral normative rule. "It's wrong to steal".

And why do you do that? Because kids come out of the womb knowing no
better. And if you don't teach them otherwise they'll steal and kill and
create a hell on Earth. Little gangster babies, feeding their needs with
antisocial and criminal behaviour.

Ever read William Goldings' "Lord of The Flies"?

Ed




  #67  
Old October 3rd 13, 07:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Juan Wei
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Posts: 553
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Zaphod Beeblebrox has written on 10/2/2013 1:27 PM:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:14:36 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2hka2$19r$1
@dont-email.me...

Give me a ****ing break and get off your high moral horse. No one
steals, right? Not Wall Street, not the politicians, the oil companies,
the banks?


And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a big part of what is wrong with our
society today - "it's OK for me to steal since those folks did bad
things too! See, I'm entitled!"

Doesn't matter if the law provides you an exemption. Doesn't matter if
someone else is doing wrong. Doesn't matter if you can justify it to
yourself. It is still wrong.


Hear, hear!!
  #68  
Old October 3rd 13, 07:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Marv
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On 9/30/2013 3:35 AM, Ron wrote:
On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG
wrote:

I'm a long-time WinXPpro user. I'm wondering how familiar will Win8
with Classic Shell http://www.classicshell.net/ look to me? Will
there still be a long learning curve?



You will find it very similar, but not exactly the same. How long it
will take to get accustomed to it depends on you.

And by the way, as far as I'm concerned Start 8 (not free, but very
inexpensive--only $4.99) will make the Windows 8 interface even more
like the older interfaces, and that's what I recommend.



After using Classic Shell, I will agree that Start 8 is much
better.....especially for free if you can find it


Why do you think Start 8 is much better than Classic Shell.
  #69  
Old October 3rd 13, 07:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ed Cryer
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Posts: 2,621
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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:54:49 +0200, Alias wrote:

But
we know you appear to be a thief.


No, it's legal and not theft to use a copy of software, music or videos
where I live. I am not depriving the owners of their software. They
still have it and no one stole it from them. Can we add logic impaired
to your naivety?


You *are* denying the creator of the software income from his software.


And undermining much of western capitalism. How could anyone go to the
bank with a projection sheet of likely profits if any Tom, Dick or Harry
could come along and just steal it?

Ed

  #70  
Old October 3rd 13, 08:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Nil[_2_]
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Posts: 2,170
Default Classic Shell vs Start 8

On 03 Oct 2013, "
wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Becuase removing programs in control panel almost always leaves a
bun ch of registry entries behind

I use either Revo Pro (for the 30day free trial) or 'Geek' or
'IOBit Uninstaller, "That's the power of Pine Sol Baby.."


In general, I trust the original programs uninstaller to know what to
delete. Which is not to say that they all do their job well. But I
don't resort to a 3rd-party uninstaller unless I detect a problem.

I believe that 3rd-party uninstallers can be too aggressive and
potentially remove things they shouldn't. If you have observed the OP,
you've already seen that he's a menace to his computer and how he's
somehow able to hose things up with even the safest of tools. I shudder
to think what he can do one that has an "expert mode".
  #71  
Old October 3rd 13, 08:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Nil[_2_]
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Posts: 2,170
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On 03 Oct 2013, Alias wrote
in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt wrong! Theft is a legal not a moral issue. Where
I live it is not theft. Ergo, I am not a thief.


Of course it's a moral issue. It may not put you in jail, but it's
still theft to be taking someone's potential income from them. The
software in question does not belong to you until you pay for it, at
which time the author is compensates for his time, effort, and
expertise. If you don't pay what he asks for his software, you are
stealing money from his pocket. Whether or not there's a loophole in
your local laws, it's still theft, and I believe it's still wrong.

From your stance, I can see that you must believe:

- there was no such thing as theft before a law was made against it;

- everything wrong or immoral has an existing law against it;

- that if there is no existing law against it, it is right and moral;

- that if a law says its legal, it is right and moral;

- that it would be perfectly OK for someone to profit from the fruits
of your labor without your consent and without compensating you.


The software developer is trying to make a living. Why would you
intentionally try to prevent them from succeeding? Their product is
only $5 - surely anyone can afford such a small amount, even someone
with an undeserved sense of entitlement as yourself.
  #72  
Old October 3rd 13, 08:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_71_]
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Posts: 49
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On 10/3/2013 8:42 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 10/3/2013 4:00 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 01:09:30 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2i93f$2e7$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 7:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:14:36 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2hka2$19r$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 6:23 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message ,
Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron
wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I
don't
mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries
like
Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit,
downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft.
You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or
do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still
theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what
they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?

Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft.
The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of
society.



Give me a ****ing break and get off your high moral horse. No one
steals, right? Not Wall Street, not the politicians, the oil
companies,
the banks?

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a big part of what is wrong with
our
society today - "it's OK for me to steal since those folks did bad
things too! See, I'm entitled!"

Doesn't matter if the law provides you an exemption. Doesn't matter if
someone else is doing wrong. Doesn't matter if you can justify it to
yourself. It is still wrong.


And you're still on your high moral horse as if you were a bloody
saint.
How does it feel to be morally perfect?

Never said I was morally perfect.


Then don't throw stones.


He's not throwing stones; he's teaching.


As if.

What are you going to tell kids? "Well, it's wrong to steal;


Of course.

except
maybe in circumstance A or possibly a combination of circumstance B with
C (provided that circumstances T and Y have previously occurred)."
No! You teach them the moral normative rule. "It's wrong to steal".


In Spain it isn't stealing.


And why do you do that? Because kids come out of the womb knowing no
better. And if you don't teach them otherwise they'll steal and kill and
create a hell on Earth. Little gangster babies, feeding their needs with
antisocial and criminal behaviour.

Ever read William Goldings' "Lord of The Flies"?

Ed





I probably read it before you were born.

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.
  #73  
Old October 3rd 13, 08:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_71_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 49
Default Classic Shell

On 10/3/2013 7:36 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:54:12 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2k0et$756$2
@dont-email.me...

On 10/3/2013 4:00 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 01:09:30 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2i93f$2e7$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 7:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:14:36 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2hka2$19r$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 6:23 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron
wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't
mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like
Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft.
You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?

Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft. The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.



Give me a ****ing break and get off your high moral horse. No one
steals, right? Not Wall Street, not the politicians, the oil companies,
the banks?

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a big part of what is wrong with our
society today - "it's OK for me to steal since those folks did bad
things too! See, I'm entitled!"

Doesn't matter if the law provides you an exemption. Doesn't matter if
someone else is doing wrong. Doesn't matter if you can justify it to
yourself. It is still wrong.


And you're still on your high moral horse as if you were a bloody saint.
How does it feel to be morally perfect?

Never said I was morally perfect.


Then don't throw stones.



Only those without fault can find error in another? That would pretty
well eliminate the entire justice system. Sorry, I don't ascribe to
such nonsense.


Then keep finding fault.



I strive toward that high mark
however, yet I'm constantly aware of my failings. The difference,
apparently, is that I recognize them as failings.


If you hadn't eaten for a week, would you steal food?



So you are saying your theft of software is the moral equivalent of
stealing food for survival? That is ludicrous.


No, I am saying that even an upstanding morally correct saint such as
yourself would steal if the circumstances were right. That said,
downloading from the Bay isn't stealing here so your point is mute.

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.
  #74  
Old October 3rd 13, 08:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_71_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 49
Default Classic Shell

On 10/3/2013 7:39 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:56:17 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2k0iq$756$3
@dont-email.me...

On 10/3/2013 4:29 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:54:49 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2jpf3$udd$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/3/2013 2:48 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/3/13 3:50 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/3/2013 3:23 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 7:08 PM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Oct 2013, Alias wrote
in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

On 10/2/2013 8:15 PM, Nil wrote:
And that makes it all right?

No, but what in the world is all right today?

So, you admit that it's not right to take the man's software without
paying for it. Then why do you support that?

It's not in his pocket. I personally have no use for the program.
What I do can't be stolen.

You're avoiding the issue. You seem to support people taking software
that doesn't belong to them. Do you also support people taking things
from you that don't belong to them?

Doubt if you get a sensible answer. I asked him if he had anything he
wanted me to steal from him, all he did was ask if I was naive.






No, I asked have you been this naive all your life. Your being naive
wasn't in question.

You do not know me, or if I am naive.

I know you're being naive.

I know I'm honest, are you?

Really? You've never told a lie?

But
we know you appear to be a thief.


No, it's legal and not theft to use a copy of software, music or videos
where I live. I am not depriving the owners of their software. They
still have it and no one stole it from them.

No, you are depriving them of the fruits of their labor - that is,
payment for the service they provided to you by writing the software,
performing the music, etc.


You're assuming one would buy if one couldn't download it.



No, I'm asserting that you have no moral right to make use of it
without paying for it.


According to the law I do.

Whether or not you would pay for it if you
couldn't easily steal it is immaterial.


Actually it isn't. Only rich folks like you would think that way.



In civilized countries, that is considered
theft.


And to which "civilized" countries are you referring?


Apparently, not yours.



I don't own a country. Again, sigh, to which countries are you referring
or did you just make that up?

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Old October 3rd 13, 08:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 10/3/2013 8:13 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:54:49 +0200, Alias wrote:

But
we know you appear to be a thief.


No, it's legal and not theft to use a copy of software, music or videos
where I live. I am not depriving the owners of their software. They
still have it and no one stole it from them. Can we add logic impaired
to your naivety?


You *are* denying the creator of the software income from his software.


You are assuming it would be bought if the only way to get it was to pay.

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