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  #31  
Old November 13th 13, 10:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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Default MS Office box copy?

On 11/13/2013 1:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:01:54 -0600, wrote:

On 11/13/2013 12:39 PM, Gordon wrote:
Another question I have regarding MS Windows 8.1 is, how do I do a
synchronize between two folders...one on my computer and one on an
external hard drive. I know I can do a fresh copy of the computer's
folder to the external drive but I would like to just do a simple
synchronize that would bring both folders up to the exact same file
contents.


There are many ways to do this, but I love SyncBack for these kinds of
tasks.

SyncBack Free - freeware version
http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/

Thanks, Bill. I may get this and try it out. I was thinking there was
a "built-in" function in MS Windows 8.1 that would do this with no
need to install any new software. Gordon


I think there is one built-in. But I tried just about everything out
there and this one is the best. I don't think you would be sorry.

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  #32  
Old November 13th 13, 10:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gordon
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:45:57 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Gordon wrote:

I still can't make a decision on this. I just went to the local
computer store and read the information on the little envelope that
contains some kind of business card with a code on it. It seems to me
that buying one of these will let me set my one computer up to do my
regular MS Office work on cloud nine or some such. That is, I won't
have a copy of the MS Office client software installed on my computer.
Did I misinterpret the information on the MS Office 2013 envelopes at
the store?


Here are the Office versions available.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700


Which box did you read ?

365 is subscription based, Office 2013 is not.
- Some 365 plans come with locally installed Office applications.
- All Office 2013 version install Office locally on your machine.

- W

I guess I must have been reading the wrong box. I'll go back tomorrow
and have another look.

I would really like to find a box copy that would let me choose which
components it contains. I don't need anything other than Word, Excel
and Outlook, but all the available boxes include One Note, Access and
Publisher. I wish I could do a pick and choose, but I see no way to do
this. Gordon
  #33  
Old November 13th 13, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 11/13/2013 4:22 PM, BillW50 wrote:
I tried just about everything out there and this one is the best. I
don't think you would be sorry.

I use Syncback Free and I too recomend it. I use it to sync the data
on my laptop and desktop
  #34  
Old November 14th 13, 07:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston[_2_]
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Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:45:57 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Gordon wrote:

I still can't make a decision on this. I just went to the local
computer store and read the information on the little envelope that
contains some kind of business card with a code on it. It seems to me
that buying one of these will let me set my one computer up to do my
regular MS Office work on cloud nine or some such. That is, I won't
have a copy of the MS Office client software installed on my computer.
Did I misinterpret the information on the MS Office 2013 envelopes at
the store?


Here are the Office versions available.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700


Which box did you read ?

365 is subscription based, Office 2013 is not.
- Some 365 plans come with locally installed Office applications.
- All Office 2013 version install Office locally on your machine.

- W

I guess I must have been reading the wrong box. I'll go back tomorrow
and have another look.

I would really like to find a box copy that would let me choose which
components it contains. I don't need anything other than Word, Excel
and Outlook, but all the available boxes include One Note, Access and
Publisher. I wish I could do a pick and choose, but I see no way to do
this. Gordon

Wysiwyg.

All of the following sold-at-retail versions install software locally

Office Home and Student 2013 ($140)
- Excel, Word, Powerpoint, & One Note
Office Home and Business 2013 ($220)
- Excel, Word, Powerpoint, One Note, & Outlook
Office Professional (400)
- Excel, Word, Powerpoint, One Note, Outlook, Publisher, & Access
Office 365 Home Premium ($100, Annual Subscription)
- Excel, Word, Powerpoint, One Note, Outlook, Publisher, & Access,
SkyDrive
Office 365 Small Business Premium ($150, Annual Subcription)
- Excel, Word, Powerpoint, One Note, Outlook, Publisher, & Access,
SkyDrive


If you wanted to purchase Word, Excel and Outlook as individual items
(locally installed) two options are available
- Word ($110), Excel ($110), Outlook ($110)
- Word ($80 non-commerical), Excel ($80, non-commerical), Outlook ($110)

If you wanted to purchase a suite and Outlook stand-alone then the
cheapest route would be:
- Office Home and Student ($140)+ Outlook ($110)


The subcription based versions as long as the subscription is maintained
and paid entitle the user to version upgrades free of charge in addition
to the ability to install on up to 5 pcs (including select mobile
devices) for the same single user.

If you plan on upgrading each and every time new versions are available
that included Outlook then the Office 365 Home Premium subscription plan
might be the cheapest since it's pretty certain MSFT will release the
next version before the cost surpasses the cheapest stand-alone suite
with Outlook (Office Home and Busines 2013).

What I'm struggling with is the need to go to a local store to look at
boxes - everything purchased requires a download and afaics the pricing
at the MSFT Store is the same (credit card required)....plus one has the
ability to Live Chat directly with MSFT and see all review all available
products.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700



--
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msft mvp consumer apps
  #35  
Old November 14th 13, 08:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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....winston wrote:


What I'm struggling with is the need to go to a local store to look at
boxes - everything purchased requires a download and afaics the pricing
at the MSFT Store is the same (credit card required)....plus one has the
ability to Live Chat directly with MSFT and see all review all available
products.


People seem physical media, because it implies:

1) Ownership of the product. A proof of purchase
in physical form. Many other kinds of proof, such as
email with key in it, cash register receipt, can get list.
A boxed copy with DVD, tends to get stored in the
bookshelf with the other software.

2) The implication of the ability to move the
installation to another computer box when the
time comes. Which the EULA might not actually permit,
or the EULA may have been changed after the product
was released.

With the stored selling "key card" copies, this is
yet another Microsoft way of introducing people to
the "Store" concept of getting their "Apps" only
through code downloads. Rather than from a disc.

But with a little effort, in this case at least,
you can still acquire a disc if you want it. You don't
have to download it over and over again.

http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technol...download-links

I take it this delivery method, is also intended to
put a nail in the coffin of dialup users (big download).
Or perhaps, anyone on a metered Internet connection.
Some farmer on a satellite link with 2GB/month download
limit, isn't going to like this style of product delivery.

Paul
  #36  
Old November 14th 13, 01:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default MS Office box copy?

On 11/14/2013 2:13 AM, Paul wrote:
...winston wrote:


What I'm struggling with is the need to go to a local store to look at
boxes - everything purchased requires a download and afaics the
pricing at the MSFT Store is the same (credit card required)....plus
one has the ability to Live Chat directly with MSFT and see all review
all available products.


People seem physical media, because it implies:

1) Ownership of the product. A proof of purchase
in physical form. Many other kinds of proof, such as
email with key in it, cash register receipt, can get list.
A boxed copy with DVD, tends to get stored in the
bookshelf with the other software.

2) The implication of the ability to move the
installation to another computer box when the
time comes. Which the EULA might not actually permit,
or the EULA may have been changed after the product
was released.

With the stored selling "key card" copies, this is
yet another Microsoft way of introducing people to
the "Store" concept of getting their "Apps" only
through code downloads. Rather than from a disc.

But with a little effort, in this case at least,
you can still acquire a disc if you want it. You don't
have to download it over and over again.

http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technol...download-links


I take it this delivery method, is also intended to
put a nail in the coffin of dialup users (big download).
Or perhaps, anyone on a metered Internet connection.
Some farmer on a satellite link with 2GB/month download
limit, isn't going to like this style of product delivery.


Call me old school...but if I'm buying something is a disc(s) and a case
to much to ask for? Even though I know how to burn a disc not everyone
does (more money spent on blank media too) and like you said the
downloads are big. Look how many people complained about the download
size of 8.1, and how many people wanted a disc so they wouldn't have to
download it again. Micro$soft is using the bull**** excuse that "most
laptops don't come with a disc drive anyway". Ah, no. That would be
*their* "2 an 1" (or whatever they are calling them).

With things like Netflix and iTunes it won't be long before you can't
buy/rent a DVD or CD or maybe even a Blu-ray. I've noticed that new
movie releases and now saying "available Tuesday on Blu-ray and Digital
HD". What happened to "available Tuesday on DVD and Blu-ray"? I'm
blaming the younger generation. A lot of them don't give a crap about
sound/music quality. All they care about is how much music they can cram
on to their iPod and/or smart phone. And on top of that why buy a CD
when you have torrents and places like MP3 Skull where you can download
those crappy sounding MP3s for free? Why buy or even rent a movie when
it can be had for free also via torrent/binaries? Who cares if the
picture and sound quality are lacking...it's FREE.

Yeah, it's early and I'm cranky...lol

  #37  
Old November 14th 13, 08:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 11/14/13 12:13 AM, Paul wrote:
...winston wrote:


What I'm struggling with is the need to go to a local store to look at
boxes - everything purchased requires a download and afaics the pricing
at the MSFT Store is the same (credit card required)....plus one has the
ability to Live Chat directly with MSFT and see all review all available
products.


People seem physical media, because it implies:

1) Ownership of the product. A proof of purchase
in physical form. Many other kinds of proof, such as
email with key in it, cash register receipt, can get list.
A boxed copy with DVD, tends to get stored in the
bookshelf with the other software.

2) The implication of the ability to move the
installation to another computer box when the
time comes. Which the EULA might not actually permit,
or the EULA may have been changed after the product
was released.

With the stored selling "key card" copies, this is
yet another Microsoft way of introducing people to
the "Store" concept of getting their "Apps" only
through code downloads. Rather than from a disc.

But with a little effort, in this case at least,
you can still acquire a disc if you want it. You don't
have to download it over and over again.

http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technol...download-links

I take it this delivery method, is also intended to
put a nail in the coffin of dialup users (big download).


As I read this, you would screw the user that has no choice other than
dialup?


Or perhaps, anyone on a metered Internet connection.
Some farmer on a satellite link with 2GB/month download
limit, isn't going to like this style of product delivery.

Paul



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Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.2.3
  #38  
Old November 14th 13, 10:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston[_2_]
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Paul wrote:
...winston wrote:


What I'm struggling with is the need to go to a local store to look at
boxes - everything purchased requires a download and afaics the
pricing at the MSFT Store is the same (credit card required)....plus
one has the ability to Live Chat directly with MSFT and see all review
all available products.


People seem physical media, because it implies:

1) Ownership of the product. A proof of purchase
in physical form. Many other kinds of proof, such as
email with key in it, cash register receipt, can get list.
A boxed copy with DVD, tends to get stored in the
bookshelf with the other software.

2) The implication of the ability to move the
installation to another computer box when the
time comes. Which the EULA might not actually permit,
or the EULA may have been changed after the product
was released.

With the stored selling "key card" copies, this is
yet another Microsoft way of introducing people to
the "Store" concept of getting their "Apps" only
through code downloads. Rather than from a disc.

But with a little effort, in this case at least,
you can still acquire a disc if you want it. You don't
have to download it over and over again.

http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technol...download-links


I take it this delivery method, is also intended to
put a nail in the coffin of dialup users (big download).
Or perhaps, anyone on a metered Internet connection.
Some farmer on a satellite link with 2GB/month download
limit, isn't going to like this style of product delivery.

Paul


Replies to:
1. Yes, folks are conditioned (as most of us are) to have media for
whatever software we purchase.
- Though incumbent upon the purchaser the ability to obtain
installable media exists. Technically no one owns the product, just the
the right to install and use it per the licensing requirements.
2. OEM versions of Office 2013(provided by equipment manufacturers as
pre-installed applications) limit (by EULA) reuse on another computer
'when the time comes'. Not a single one of the Office 2013 retail
versions are constrainted by that same limitation.


Downloading is the current business model
- it's not going to change

Fyi...the download links (provided on heidoc.net)for Office 2013 files
(with the exception of the not available to the public Office 2013
Professional Plus)are for the same file one obtains as a download option
(or purchasing optional media -extra cost) from the MSFT store...thus
your 'with little effort' reference would appear to be 'more effort'
since the same download is available per the included key card
instructions (once purchased). Same file, no need to download it over
and over again.



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msft mvp consumer apps
  #39  
Old November 14th 13, 10:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston[_2_]
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Ken Springer wrote:


I take it this delivery method, is also intended to
put a nail in the coffin of dialup users (big download).


As I read this, you would screw the user that has no choice other than
dialup?



The dialup/metered connection user is certainly impacted (and it does
not matter for them if the download is obtained from MSFT or a
heidoc.net link to the same file on the MSFT server).



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps
  #40  
Old November 15th 13, 12:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Al Sparber-PVII
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On 14/11/2013 21:07, ...winston wrote:

snipped




hey winston,

how many young boys do you need for this weekend?

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  #41  
Old November 15th 13, 02:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gordon
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:42:33 -0600, Gordon
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:45:57 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Gordon wrote:

I still can't make a decision on this. I just went to the local
computer store and read the information on the little envelope that
contains some kind of business card with a code on it. It seems to me
that buying one of these will let me set my one computer up to do my
regular MS Office work on cloud nine or some such. That is, I won't
have a copy of the MS Office client software installed on my computer.
Did I misinterpret the information on the MS Office 2013 envelopes at
the store?


Here are the Office versions available.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700


Which box did you read ?

365 is subscription based, Office 2013 is not.
- Some 365 plans come with locally installed Office applications.
- All Office 2013 version install Office locally on your machine.

- W

I guess I must have been reading the wrong box. I'll go back tomorrow
and have another look.

I would really like to find a box copy that would let me choose which
components it contains. I don't need anything other than Word, Excel
and Outlook, but all the available boxes include One Note, Access and
Publisher. I wish I could do a pick and choose, but I see no way to do
this. Gordon

I really messed things up, yesterday. I went to Staples and bought one
of the envelope things with MS Office Home & Business 3013 printed on
the face of it. Inside there was a small card with a Product Key on
it. I followed the directions inside this little envelope and tried to
do a download & install of MS. Office Home and Business 2013. When I
finished, no changes had been made on my computer other than some of
my existing programs had been modified a bit, yet were still the same
2010 version. For example, my Microsoft Outlook is now a (Trial)
version. Then I noticed that all the download and install had been
done on the Microsoft Sky Drive. I can access all the programs in this
Home Business setup and use them on Sky Drive, but I cannot get them
installed onto my own computer. What can I try, next? Gordon
  #42  
Old November 15th 13, 04:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:42:33 -0600, Gordon
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:45:57 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Gordon wrote:
I still can't make a decision on this. I just went to the local
computer store and read the information on the little envelope that
contains some kind of business card with a code on it. It seems to me
that buying one of these will let me set my one computer up to do my
regular MS Office work on cloud nine or some such. That is, I won't
have a copy of the MS Office client software installed on my computer.
Did I misinterpret the information on the MS Office 2013 envelopes at
the store?
Here are the Office versions available.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700


Which box did you read ?

365 is subscription based, Office 2013 is not.
- Some 365 plans come with locally installed Office applications.
- All Office 2013 version install Office locally on your machine.

- W

I guess I must have been reading the wrong box. I'll go back tomorrow
and have another look.

I would really like to find a box copy that would let me choose which
components it contains. I don't need anything other than Word, Excel
and Outlook, but all the available boxes include One Note, Access and
Publisher. I wish I could do a pick and choose, but I see no way to do
this. Gordon

I really messed things up, yesterday. I went to Staples and bought one
of the envelope things with MS Office Home & Business 3013 printed on
the face of it. Inside there was a small card with a Product Key on
it. I followed the directions inside this little envelope and tried to
do a download & install of MS. Office Home and Business 2013. When I
finished, no changes had been made on my computer other than some of
my existing programs had been modified a bit, yet were still the same
2010 version. For example, my Microsoft Outlook is now a (Trial)
version. Then I noticed that all the download and install had been
done on the Microsoft Sky Drive. I can access all the programs in this
Home Business setup and use them on Sky Drive, but I cannot get them
installed onto my own computer. What can I try, next? Gordon


Did it ask for the key ?

Does the key have a tech support phone number ?

Any company stupid enough to do this style of
sales, had better have top-notch technical support
for it.

I don't care what Winston says, I'd be looking for a stand alone
installer.

http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technol...download-links

---

http://officecdn.microsoft.com/pr/39...nessRetail.img

That download disc is listed as 2.1GB.

The reason I recommend looking for installer discs, is
there can be differences between electronic (online)
installations, versus the ones done by installer discs.

For example, my $39.95 Win8 electronic download
contains only a single image folder (install.esd), whereas an
MSDN subscription DVD image contains all the OS
variants as separate image folders in the install.wim .
That's only important if you want to remove ei.cfg
and make a universal installer DVD (the key string
being the gating item).

But the thing is, these downloads don't have to be
identical. And I'd take a standalone download .iso file
for a DVD any day, over a pared-down direct install.

It's the same philosophy I use with Adobe Flash installations.
An ActiveX installed Flash probably works, but I'm not
interested in taking a chance. So I download the .exe
version instead. Because it has *always* worked for me.

*******

Hmmmm. This doesn't look good. There are two installer
technologies. The old one is MSI file. The new one
is called "Click-To-Run". Apparently 2010, you could
do something to use the MSI based one. 2013 is only
Click-To-Run. Apparently that prevents custom installations,
where you select what you want to install.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/o...d38823e?page=1

With regard to what is installed on the computer, I'd
check the two Program Files directories, to see if anything
is in there. The cloud integration, might be for the
file storage on a save.

http://superuser.com/questions/51737...of-on-skydrive

-- http://www.pressbyte.com/12300/8-ste...e-office-2013/

HTH,
Paul
  #43  
Old November 15th 13, 07:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gordon
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:00:35 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:42:33 -0600, Gordon
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:45:57 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Gordon wrote:
I still can't make a decision on this. I just went to the local
computer store and read the information on the little envelope that
contains some kind of business card with a code on it. It seems to me
that buying one of these will let me set my one computer up to do my
regular MS Office work on cloud nine or some such. That is, I won't
have a copy of the MS Office client software installed on my computer.
Did I misinterpret the information on the MS Office 2013 envelopes at
the store?
Here are the Office versions available.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700


Which box did you read ?

365 is subscription based, Office 2013 is not.
- Some 365 plans come with locally installed Office applications.
- All Office 2013 version install Office locally on your machine.

- W

I guess I must have been reading the wrong box. I'll go back tomorrow
and have another look.

I would really like to find a box copy that would let me choose which
components it contains. I don't need anything other than Word, Excel
and Outlook, but all the available boxes include One Note, Access and
Publisher. I wish I could do a pick and choose, but I see no way to do
this. Gordon

I really messed things up, yesterday. I went to Staples and bought one
of the envelope things with MS Office Home & Business 3013 printed on
the face of it. Inside there was a small card with a Product Key on
it. I followed the directions inside this little envelope and tried to
do a download & install of MS. Office Home and Business 2013. When I
finished, no changes had been made on my computer other than some of
my existing programs had been modified a bit, yet were still the same
2010 version. For example, my Microsoft Outlook is now a (Trial)
version. Then I noticed that all the download and install had been
done on the Microsoft Sky Drive. I can access all the programs in this
Home Business setup and use them on Sky Drive, but I cannot get them
installed onto my own computer. What can I try, next? Gordon


Did it ask for the key ?

Does the key have a tech support phone number ?

Any company stupid enough to do this style of
sales, had better have top-notch technical support
for it.

I don't care what Winston says, I'd be looking for a stand alone
installer.

http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technol...download-links

---

http://officecdn.microsoft.com/pr/39...nessRetail.img

That download disc is listed as 2.1GB.

The reason I recommend looking for installer discs, is
there can be differences between electronic (online)
installations, versus the ones done by installer discs.

For example, my $39.95 Win8 electronic download
contains only a single image folder (install.esd), whereas an
MSDN subscription DVD image contains all the OS
variants as separate image folders in the install.wim .
That's only important if you want to remove ei.cfg
and make a universal installer DVD (the key string
being the gating item).

But the thing is, these downloads don't have to be
identical. And I'd take a standalone download .iso file
for a DVD any day, over a pared-down direct install.

It's the same philosophy I use with Adobe Flash installations.
An ActiveX installed Flash probably works, but I'm not
interested in taking a chance. So I download the .exe
version instead. Because it has *always* worked for me.

*******

Hmmmm. This doesn't look good. There are two installer
technologies. The old one is MSI file. The new one
is called "Click-To-Run". Apparently 2010, you could
do something to use the MSI based one. 2013 is only
Click-To-Run. Apparently that prevents custom installations,
where you select what you want to install.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/o...d38823e?page=1

With regard to what is installed on the computer, I'd
check the two Program Files directories, to see if anything
is in there. The cloud integration, might be for the
file storage on a save.

http://superuser.com/questions/51737...of-on-skydrive

-- http://www.pressbyte.com/12300/8-ste...e-office-2013/

HTH,
Paul

Maybe my problems with MS Office 2013 hiding in the shadows on my new
HP Pavilion with Windows 8.1 is that I have this computer set up to
run in 64 bit mode while MS Office 2013 prefers the (MUCH ADVANCED) 32
bit mode???

When I try to go back through the download/install process it seems to
get started with the job then I get a pop-up screen that says,
"Something went wrong. Office can't do that right now because your
product is busy with another task. Please wait for this task to
complete and try again.

Go online for more help."

So, I shut all my other client software down and left the computer
overnight, hoping it would finish this other task, but this morning I
got the same popup and nothing could be found that would clear the
"other task" out of the way. Gordon
  #44  
Old November 15th 13, 07:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston[_2_]
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Paul wrote:
Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:42:33 -0600, Gordon
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:45:57 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Gordon wrote:
I still can't make a decision on this. I just went to the local
computer store and read the information on the little envelope that
contains some kind of business card with a code on it. It seems to me
that buying one of these will let me set my one computer up to do my
regular MS Office work on cloud nine or some such. That is, I won't
have a copy of the MS Office client software installed on my computer.
Did I misinterpret the information on the MS Office 2013 envelopes at
the store?
Here are the Office versions available.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700



Which box did you read ?

365 is subscription based, Office 2013 is not.
- Some 365 plans come with locally installed Office applications.
- All Office 2013 version install Office locally on your machine.

- W

I guess I must have been reading the wrong box. I'll go back tomorrow
and have another look.
I would really like to find a box copy that would let me choose which
components it contains. I don't need anything other than Word, Excel
and Outlook, but all the available boxes include One Note, Access and
Publisher. I wish I could do a pick and choose, but I see no way to do
this. Gordon

I really messed things up, yesterday. I went to Staples and bought one
of the envelope things with MS Office Home & Business 3013 printed on
the face of it. Inside there was a small card with a Product Key on
it. I followed the directions inside this little envelope and tried to
do a download & install of MS. Office Home and Business 2013. When I
finished, no changes had been made on my computer other than some of
my existing programs had been modified a bit, yet were still the same
2010 version. For example, my Microsoft Outlook is now a (Trial)
version. Then I noticed that all the download and install had been
done on the Microsoft Sky Drive. I can access all the programs in this
Home Business setup and use them on Sky Drive, but I cannot get them
installed onto my own computer. What can I try, next? Gordon


Did it ask for the key ?

Does the key have a tech support phone number ?

Any company stupid enough to do this style of
sales, had better have top-notch technical support
for it.

I don't care what Winston says, I'd be looking for a stand alone
installer.

http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technol...download-links


---

http://officecdn.microsoft.com/pr/39...nessRetail.img


That download disc is listed as 2.1GB.

The reason I recommend looking for installer discs, is
there can be differences between electronic (online)
installations, versus the ones done by installer discs.

For example, my $39.95 Win8 electronic download
contains only a single image folder (install.esd), whereas an
MSDN subscription DVD image contains all the OS
variants as separate image folders in the install.wim .
That's only important if you want to remove ei.cfg
and make a universal installer DVD (the key string
being the gating item).

But the thing is, these downloads don't have to be
identical. And I'd take a standalone download .iso file
for a DVD any day, over a pared-down direct install.

It's the same philosophy I use with Adobe Flash installations.
An ActiveX installed Flash probably works, but I'm not
interested in taking a chance. So I download the .exe
version instead. Because it has *always* worked for me.

*******

Hmmmm. This doesn't look good. There are two installer
technologies. The old one is MSI file. The new one
is called "Click-To-Run". Apparently 2010, you could
do something to use the MSI based one. 2013 is only
Click-To-Run. Apparently that prevents custom installations,
where you select what you want to install.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/o...d38823e?page=1


With regard to what is installed on the computer, I'd
check the two Program Files directories, to see if anything
is in there. The cloud integration, might be for the
file storage on a save.

http://superuser.com/questions/51737...of-on-skydrive


-- http://www.pressbyte.com/12300/8-ste...e-office-2013/

HTH,
Paul


The download link on heidoc.net is to the exact same file that is
available via the link in the product key card.
- www.officedn.microsoft

Doesn't matter what site...the source is the same.

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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps
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Old November 15th 13, 07:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston[_2_]
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Default MS Office box copy?

Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:42:33 -0600, Gordon
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:45:57 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Gordon wrote:

I still can't make a decision on this. I just went to the local
computer store and read the information on the little envelope that
contains some kind of business card with a code on it. It seems to me
that buying one of these will let me set my one computer up to do my
regular MS Office work on cloud nine or some such. That is, I won't
have a copy of the MS Office client software installed on my computer.
Did I misinterpret the information on the MS Office 2013 envelopes at
the store?

Here are the Office versions available.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.62684700


Which box did you read ?

365 is subscription based, Office 2013 is not.
- Some 365 plans come with locally installed Office applications.
- All Office 2013 version install Office locally on your machine.

- W

I guess I must have been reading the wrong box. I'll go back tomorrow
and have another look.

I would really like to find a box copy that would let me choose which
components it contains. I don't need anything other than Word, Excel
and Outlook, but all the available boxes include One Note, Access and
Publisher. I wish I could do a pick and choose, but I see no way to do
this. Gordon

I really messed things up, yesterday. I went to Staples and bought one
of the envelope things with MS Office Home & Business 3013 printed on
the face of it. Inside there was a small card with a Product Key on
it. I followed the directions inside this little envelope and tried to
do a download & install of MS. Office Home and Business 2013. When I
finished, no changes had been made on my computer other than some of
my existing programs had been modified a bit, yet were still the same
2010 version. For example, my Microsoft Outlook is now a (Trial)
version. Then I noticed that all the download and install had been
done on the Microsoft Sky Drive. I can access all the programs in this
Home Business setup and use them on Sky Drive, but I cannot get them
installed onto my own computer. What can I try, next? Gordon

Office 2013 doesn't install Office applications to SkyDrive.

qp
When you install Office 2013 suites or programs, the Setup program uses
the Program Files\Microsoft Office folder as the default folder on a
32-bit version of Windows, or the Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
folder as the default folder on a 64-bit version of Windows.The Office
Bin default folder in these versions of windows are Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office15 and Program Files (x86)\Microsoft
Office\Office15 respectively. The Office Bin folder is the folder in
which the Office executable files are installed.

Outlook 2013 cannot coexist with any earlier version of Outlook. When
you install Outlook 2013, the Setup program removes any earlier versions
of Outlook that are installed.
/qp

Also see
http://support.microsoft.com/find-so...e/office-2013/
Links for each of the following are available
- Activating
- Downloading
- Finding the product key
- Installing the Software
- Obtaining physical media

If you saw the error ' Something went wrong'...then it usually indicates
a second installation of Office was started before the first install.
See
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2827031/en-us



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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps
 




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