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Old February 4th 14, 04:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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I often don't get very excited about the daily offering on
Giveawayoftheday.com. And today was just another word processor which I
tried dozens of them in the past and almost none of them impress me at
all. But I must say just using this Atlantis Word Processor for a few
hours has really impressed me. If you are frustrated over non MS Word
word processors like me, this one is definitely worth a look. And it can
be portable too. ;-)

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Old February 4th 14, 05:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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BillW50 wrote:
I often don't get very excited about the daily offering on
Giveawayoftheday.com. And today was just another word processor which I
tried dozens of them in the past and almost none of them impress me at
all. But I must say just using this Atlantis Word Processor for a few
hours has really impressed me. If you are frustrated over non MS Word
word processors like me, this one is definitely worth a look. And it can
be portable too. ;-)


Nice one.
Like a previous version of MS Word with typewriter clicks.

Ed

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Old February 4th 14, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 04/02/2014 10:22 AM, BillW50 wrote:
I often don't get very excited about the daily offering on
Giveawayoftheday.com. And today was just another word processor which I
tried dozens of them in the past and almost none of them impress me at
all. But I must say just using this Atlantis Word Processor for a few
hours has really impressed me. If you are frustrated over non MS Word
word processors like me, this one is definitely worth a look. And it can
be portable too. ;-)


Does it have a thesaurus?
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Old February 4th 14, 09:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"BillW50" wrote in message

I often don't get very excited about the daily offering on
Giveawayoftheday.com. And today was just another word
processor which I tried dozens of them in the past and
almost none of them impress me at all. But I must say
just using this Atlantis Word Processor for a few hours
has really impressed me. If you are frustrated over non
MS Word word processors like me, this one is definitely
worth a look. And it can be portable too. ;-)


I've used it for a number of years. It is a good program and reasonably
versatile. FWIW, I like it.

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Old February 4th 14, 11:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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On 2/4/2014 2:46 PM, dadiOH wrote:
wrote in message

I often don't get very excited about the daily offering on
Giveawayoftheday.com. And today was just another word
processor which I tried dozens of them in the past and
almost none of them impress me at all. But I must say
just using this Atlantis Word Processor for a few hours
has really impressed me. If you are frustrated over non
MS Word word processors like me, this one is definitely
worth a look. And it can be portable too. ;-)


I've used it for a number of years. It is a good program and reasonably
versatile. FWIW, I like it.


OMG! I never heard about it until today. And you never mentioned it
before? From what I have heard about it today, even v1.0 was quite good.

--
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Old February 5th 14, 03:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 05/02/2014 01:07, Silver Slimer wrote:
Open-source in general is buggy or doesn't work.


Apart from Mozilla FF or TB, I don't use any other open source products
and I have no plans to change my habits.

My website runs on Linux but it is maintained by my host and I have
involvement with it.

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Old February 5th 14, 03:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:17:20 +0000, Good Guy wrote:

On 05/02/2014 01:07, Silver Slimer wrote:
Open-source in general is buggy or doesn't work.


Apart from Mozilla FF or TB, I don't use any other open source products
and I have no plans to change my habits.

I don't use either of those products, but I do use quite a number of open
source products. Some are good, some very good and other not so. If you
don't like your open source offering, you can get rid of it and it's cost
you nothing (except time). I find LibreOffice quite adequate, although I
must admit I don't use many of it's features. On the other hand, the
previous version of Serif PagePlus PPX6 at $20 is a better product than
the open source Scribus, although the latter is powerful and capable.
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Old February 5th 14, 04:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 04/02/2014 9:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

Open-source in general is buggy or doesn't work.


After 3 or 4 years of using it, I'm afraid I have to agree with you for
the programs I've tried to use "in depth". Have some others I'm trying,
jury is out on them.


Technically, all people should be using open-source simply because the
code is transparent. However, people should only be accepting to use
operating systems which are entirely free (as in freedom) as well as
free third-party software, free formats and free codecs. For privacy as
well as security, there are nothing but benefits. However, there are
only a handful of GNU/Linux distributions which are fully free and
they're not that good. A lot of people would have trouble doing what
they're used to doing in Windows and they'd be disgusted at how their
computers have trouble going to and waking from sleep as well as how web
sites dependent on Flash wouldn't work at all.
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Old February 5th 14, 06:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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BillW50 wrote:

I often don't get very excited about the daily offering on
Giveawayoftheday.com. And today was just another word processor which I
tried dozens of them in the past and almost none of them impress me at
all. But I must say just using this Atlantis Word Processor for a few
hours has really impressed me. If you are frustrated over non MS Word
word processors like me, this one is definitely worth a look. And it can
be portable too. ;-)


Do it come with GOTD's wrapper that you can use the start & abort
install trick to get rid of it so it no longer exists for the real
installer? That gets rid of it phoning home to GOTD to check if you are
installing within the giveaway day.

The trick, as I recall, is you start GOTD's fake installer, let it
extract the real installer into the %temp% directory, grab a copy of the
real installer to store elsewhere, abort GOTD's fake installer, and
thereafter you have the real installer to run on any day you want.

Their online manual mentions their editor creates RTF files. Since they
mention Microsoft in that description, it looks like they support
Microsoft's TNEF format (which Microsoft incorrectly labelled "RTF"
despite HTML is also an RTF format). Can you load and save other the
other file formats and make one of them the default one?

http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com...ed_formats.htm

The GOTD download is only 2.4MB in size. This isn't a web-only
installer is it? That is, you don't get the real installer but instead
a web installer that has to retrieve the real installer and then runs
the real installer. The Kinsoft Office download is 46MB and Softmaker
FreeOffice is 60MB. Although this Atlantis download is only the word
processor (i.e., you don't get the other components of a suite, like
spreadsheet and presentation), 2.4MB seems too small for both the word
processor component along with an installer wrapped around it. When
searching in the setup.exe in the downloaded .zip file, I did see the
string "Welcome to the Atlantis Word Processor Setup" but I couldn't
tell if I was looking at a string in GOTD's wrapper or for a real
installer (and, if so, if it was a web-only installer and not the real
or full installer). Then I found "This "Giveaway-of-the-day" offer has
expired." inside the setup.exe file so, yep, this is the GOTD wrapper
but is it a web-only wrapper or does it contain the full Atlantis
product?

If their word processor is really this tiny for its installer (and not a
web-only installer), maybe because it lacks some important
functionality. Read:

http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en/faq.htm

No table or frames support. Really, no table support? If you open a
doc someone else created using Word, table formatting is lost. Geesh,
have fun using monospace fonts and the tab key to emulate tables.
Reviewers noted lack of imaging support (pictures) but those were 2-year
old reviews. Since their online help describes how to add pictures,
maybe they got around to adding it in the last couple of years (a bit
late for a product that started back in 2003 as Atlantis Ocean Mind).
There is no PDF support but instead they have you install a PDF printer
and use that. No version control or change tracking like in MS Word,
Kingsoft, and Open/LibreOffice. So what else does it lack when compared
to the word processors available in the free Kingsoft, Softmaker, and
Open/LibreOffice suites? They claim to be an MS Word alternative, and
they charge for it, but it is a weak alternative. No point to pay when
you can get other better alternatives and for free (and all the time).

I guess if you like this word processor (and only want a word processor)
but miss out on the GOTD offer, you could buy it for only $10 with a 70%
discount offer at softpedia.com.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-...rocessor.shtml

As of version 1.6.5.8, this product dropped support for Windows 9x and
Windows NT4. It's been awhile since I've seen anyone using NT4 but I
still see plenty of users of Windows 9x.
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Old February 5th 14, 11:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:17:01 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

As of version 1.6.5.8, this product dropped support for Windows 9x
and Windows NT4. It's been awhile since I've seen anyone using
NT4 but I still see plenty of users of Windows 9x.


I hope you advised them to upgrade to WinXP! Though, wait,...
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Old February 5th 14, 12:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2/4/14 8:50 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 04/02/2014 9:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

Open-source in general is buggy or doesn't work.


After 3 or 4 years of using it, I'm afraid I have to agree with you for
the programs I've tried to use "in depth". Have some others I'm trying,
jury is out on them.


Technically, all people should be using open-source simply because the
code is transparent. However, people should only be accepting to use
operating systems which are entirely free (as in freedom) as well as
free third-party software, free formats and free codecs. For privacy as
well as security, there are nothing but benefits. However, there are
only a handful of GNU/Linux distributions which are fully free and
they're not that good. A lot of people would have trouble doing what
they're used to doing in Windows and they'd be disgusted at how their
computers have trouble going to and waking from sleep as well as how web
sites dependent on Flash wouldn't work at all.


While your thoughts on free software and operating systems is noble,
it's also a utopia that will never exist.

Think about it, the people doing the coding have to eat. If they spent
8 hrs/day doing coding, got paid $0, how do they pay bills? If they
have a job somewhere, then they don't/won't have another 8 hrs. to do
this. If nothing else, the spouse and family won't be there. The coder
has no life.

And since they do not get their income from coding, there's 0 incentive
to fix bugs other than pride. This is what I ran into with Libre
Office. And you'll find them with Firefox and Thunderbird if you check
Bugzilla. Bugs go back for years. You'll note in my sig I use FF and
TB, and at the moment, considering getting Office for Mac so I can use
Outlook, and thus avoid a lot of bugs in TB.

I will agree, that at the moment, it is the most secure. But that's
because open source operating systems are just not popular enough. At
one time, there were no malware for the Mac. That's no longer true.
And I know of one piece of malware that exists for Linux. I can't
remember the name, but it actually attacked Windows, OS X, and Linux, if
the report was accurate.

But... Even more importantly, it has to work. And as you noted, things
don't. The average user simply will not accept a system that, while
more secure, doesn't work.

I still want to give Linux a try, I even created a partition on my boot
drive for that. Haven't had time and energy to do it. I've read some
nice things about Netrunner (I think) and it's attempt to make switching
from Windows less painful. It's supposed to include Flash, Java, and
who knows what else.


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Old February 5th 14, 02:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 04/02/2014 9:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 2/4/14 6:07 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
Open-source in general is buggy or doesn't work.


After 3 or 4 years of using it, I'm afraid I have to agree with you for
the programs I've tried to use "in depth". Have some others I'm trying,
jury is out on them.


Well, I'd been using Libre Office and prior to that it's predecessor
Open Office, and it's predecessor Star Office. They were okay, I was
impressed with the fact that they could open up Microsoft Office docs
pretty well. Lacked a few features here and there, but was okay with
that. It was especially useful under Linux, Ubuntu. I was running Open
Office under Windows for many years too.

A few years ago, picked up a package deal of Windows 7 Ultimate and
Office 2007 Ultimate, and have been happy with that ever since. I can't
say the same thing about Ubuntu Linux. They've forced so many changes
down the throats of their users without any proper consultation, or at
least giving them much options, that I've now given up on it. So since
I've given up on Linux, that means that I've also given up on Libre
Office. I also used to keep Linux around in the XP and previous years,
just in case Windows crapped out, but since Windows 7, Windows has been
much much stabler, so the need for Linux as a fallback is lessened.

On the other hand, still using Firefox and Thunderbird all of these
years. I'd like to see other open source alternatives to Thunderbird,
but I haven't found anything comparable yet. So Thunderbird and Firefox
are my entrenched programs, much like Windows itself is, and MS Office.

Yousuf Khan
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Old February 5th 14, 02:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 05/02/2014 4:59 AM, mechanic wrote:

The 'they' in the quoted post refers to the developers of the app.
How do they expect to compete with MS-Office on features, or
Libre/Open Office on price?


The biggest gripe I have with Atlantis is that it saves to .RTF by
default. I can understand that they would avoid .DOC or .DOCX due to
their proprietary nature and the high potential for them to screw up the
format due to lack of compatibility but there's no reason for them to
ignore a format like .ODT which is open to everyone and superior to .RTF.
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Old February 5th 14, 02:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message


If their word processor is really this tiny for its
installer (and not a web-only installer), maybe because
it lacks some important functionality.


My ancient version is 3.75 MB installed. The exe is about 2.1 MB. It is
Atlantis Ocean Mind (the previous name) v 1.5.1.4 and is probably 10 years
or more old.

Reviewers noted
lack of imaging support (pictures) but those were 2-year
old reviews.


No problem inserting pictures in my way more than two year old version.

I can't comment on your other concerns as they aren't things I use, need or
want. I am sure there are more full featured word processors but simplicity
decreases with features.

One thing I do like about it is the ability to save in htm. I have and can
use html editors but rarely use them as I don't have much need for them.
The web pages in my sig were made with Atlantis and IrfanView.

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Old February 5th 14, 03:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 05/02/2014 6:35 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

Technically, all people should be using open-source simply because the
code is transparent. However, people should only be accepting to use
operating systems which are entirely free (as in freedom) as well as
free third-party software, free formats and free codecs. For privacy as
well as security, there are nothing but benefits. However, there are
only a handful of GNU/Linux distributions which are fully free and
they're not that good. A lot of people would have trouble doing what
they're used to doing in Windows and they'd be disgusted at how their
computers have trouble going to and waking from sleep as well as how web
sites dependent on Flash wouldn't work at all.


While your thoughts on free software and operating systems is noble,
it's also a utopia that will never exist.


Oh, I agree with you. That's why I sign every one of my messages
reminding people that GNU/Linux is Communism.

Think about it, the people doing the coding have to eat. If they spent
8 hrs/day doing coding, got paid $0, how do they pay bills? If they
have a job somewhere, then they don't/won't have another 8 hrs. to do
this. If nothing else, the spouse and family won't be there. The coder
has no life.


Agreed again. One GNU/Linux zealot, Bryan Lunduke, learned this the hard
way. He made applications for all systems including GNU/Linux but was
eventually pressured into open-sourcing each one of his products due to
the fact that requiring payment was incompatible with the philosophy of
his operating system of choice. He went ahead and open-sourced but
accepted donations. Within a month or two, he saw his revenue drop
significantly (because even donations are too much for GNU/Linux users)
and he decided to code full-time for iOS where his efforts were
compensated. This is also around the time he left his hosting duty on
the Linux Action Show, probably because he was disillusioned with the
clientele though I notice that he still hasn't learned.

And since they do not get their income from coding, there's 0 incentive
to fix bugs other than pride. This is what I ran into with Libre
Office. And you'll find them with Firefox and Thunderbird if you check
Bugzilla. Bugs go back for years. You'll note in my sig I use FF and
TB, and at the moment, considering getting Office for Mac so I can use
Outlook, and thus avoid a lot of bugs in TB.


I only use Thunderbird because it allows me to send encrypted mail
through GnuPG. In the case of Firefox, I use it because it supports
plug-ins and isn't as insecure as Internet Explorer is. LibreOffice is
my suite of choice because I like the classic interface and believe in
open formats (not necessarily open-source). I will never be dumb enough
to tell you that any of the aforementioned products is devoid of bugs
though.

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