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  #46  
Old February 7th 14, 12:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 2/06/2014, Shadow posted:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 11:28:29 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:


On 2/06/2014, Shadow posted:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:28:23 -0500, "Silver Slimer"
wrote:


I can't say I've seen the same thing here.

Firefox on this machine (WinXP), starts in one second. While
viewing no web page content, memory consumption in Task Manager
is listed as 35MB. And, I've never had a freeze due to Firefox
or Thunderbird.

Meanwhile, browser reviewers have all pointed out that Firefox is
the slowest to start. Not one has recorded a one-second start
for Firefox on a cold start and they used i7 processors.
Reviewers are expensive. Only Micro$oft and Google can afford
the best.
[]'s


To be consistent, you should spell the later company name as GoogŁe.


It was not voluntary. I do not have the "s" letter on this
keyboard, it's one of those communist open-source ones, so I have to
use "$".......
I thought Thatcher sold England by the Pound, not GoogŁe. Ah,
maybe they bought it .... hum.
OK, I'll put an OT up there. I'm good at that.
[]'s


I'm sorry about your keyboard. Good luck in managing to get by with it.

You should have bought the model with walrus ivory keys. They all have
s's so they can say "walrus". They also all have l's too - same reason.

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  #47  
Old February 7th 14, 01:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:51:03 -0500, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 05/02/2014 12:39 PM, Char Jackson wrote:

And what exactly is the issue with .ODT?


My gripe would be that they've selected an obscure filetype as the default
rather than a common filetype. It's academic, though, because I'm happy with
MS Word.


.ODT isn't that obscure anymore. .OGG might be as an audio type but .ODT
support is included in Wordpad so you know that it's become common enough.

The advantage of open formats in general is that you never have to worry
about support for that format disappearing.


Likewise, I don't worry about not being able to open my .doc files.

  #48  
Old February 7th 14, 01:58 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:29:51 -0600, "BillW50" wrote:


"Char Jackson" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:42:15 -0500, Silver Slimer
wrote:

On 05/02/2014 10:36 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:56:00 -0500, Silver Slimer
wrote:

The biggest gripe I have with Atlantis is that it saves to .RTF by
default. I can understand that they would avoid .DOC or .DOCX due
to
their proprietary nature and the high potential for them to screw
up the
format due to lack of compatibility but there's no reason for them
to
ignore a format like .ODT which is open to everyone and superior to
.RTF.

If they were to follow your suggestion, my biggest gripe would be
that the
default file type is .ODT.

And what exactly is the issue with .ODT?


My gripe would be that they've selected an obscure filetype as the
default
rather than a common filetype. It's academic, though, because I'm
happy with
MS Word.


What difference does it make? You can always change the default. Heck I
didn't like the defaults of MS Word either.


You probably meant to reply to Silver Slimer.

  #49  
Old February 8th 14, 03:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , BillW50
writes:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

[]
So you're going to make someone bounce between a word processor and
spreadsheet program just to, for example, see a list of ingredients in
a recipe?


Naw, MS Word can read Excel tables right inside of a Word document. This
is called integration.


I guess we should avoid the word "table". If you mean a grid (with or
without visible lines), then a spreadsheet - Excel or other - is NOT the
way to make it. (Microsoft haven't helped by putting grid-helping
facilities in Excel; I suppose "the customer is always right" so they
had to, rather than telling the customer s/he was a twit for doing it
that way.)

A *spreadsheet* is for data on which calculations are anticipated.
Granted, not _all_ the columns/rows will have sums done on them - I've
nothing against column and row headings - but if _all_ you want is the
_layout_, don't use a spreadsheet. (VanguardLH [what's the origin of
that name by the way?] are for once in agreement on something!)

Ever read a newspaper or even a small one-page flyer?
Really, that's your argument for not supporting tables in a word
processor, that you don't need columnar formatting ever?


I don't think of columns as tables per se. By the way, Atlantis does
support columns.


I find true columns as Word implements them rather clunky, though I can
see that if I was doing things that use them a lot, I'd use them. If I
just want a short section to have columns, I'm likely to use a table.
That's a Word table, of course - not a spreadsheet.

Uh huh, and I suppose you never used the tab key to align text either
in a single or multiple columns.


Indeed, for a simple case. (At least it's better than using spaces,
which I've - in pain! - seen people do. Especially with non-monospaced
text!)

I've been using word processors and text editors since the early 80's.
And back in the CP/M-DOS days I have created a few tables by using tab
characters. But since then, I can't think of a single time I wanted to
create a table (outside of a spreadsheet). And since I save lots of
computer articles (I use plain text if I can get away with it). And
tables just makes the task of converting to plain text a bit harder. Too
many people are creating tables and using them for things that are
totally unnecessary.


I'm sure some are, but grid layout does make a lot of things easier to
see at a glance.

Tables in documents aren't necessarily and most times are not a
spreadsheet with cells containing formulae. They are just a means of


Hear hear!

providing easy columnar *formatting*. So why bother with bolding,
italics, spacing between paragraphs, justification, bullet lists, or
any of that other unnecessary formatting fluff? Just with a plain
text editor, like Notepad, if you think formatting is unimportant.


I don't know, we do pretty well in plain text newsgroups without all of
that stuff. Some experts claim that plain text doesn't contain
formatting. But I disagree. Plain text can be formatted to contain many
of the features you listed above.


If you use monospaced text, then it isn't hard to make a table - grid -
in plain text using tabs; most plain text handlers to actually handle
tabs.
[]
That you don't need to use tables for columnar formatting is hardly an
excuse for a word *processor* to omit the feature. I didn't even


Agreed - tables should be included as part of a word processor (meaning
grids, not a spreadsheet [though I think Word's tables can do very
limited sums too!]).

mention embedding a spreadsheet or range of cells from one into a
document. I only mentioned tables which is a formatting feature.

[]
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  #50  
Old February 8th 14, 03:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Silver Slimer
writes:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 06:31:08 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

Take a look at Mozilla for example. I view their products as always
under construction and will never be completed. You can't develop good
software using this model. What you always end up with is bloated
spaghetti code.


Mozilla continues to use the outdated and insecure Netscape API for
Flash and is the slowest of all browsers for a cold start. It provides


I can't speak for other browsers - Firefox may well be slower than some;
however, any comparison with IE is skewed by the fact that IE shares so
much with the OS that comparison on a fair basis isn't possible. It was
back in the Windows 95/98 days when it was possible to completely remove
IE (google for IEradicator); then the startup times could be truly
compared. But no other browser's startup time can now be fairly compared
to IE. (Unless a proportion - and who is to say how much? - of the
computer's boot time is considered to be part of IE's start time.)

the best features but at the cost of more memory use and the potential
of freezing the whole computer (my wife and I both experienced a
frozen computer from Mozilla's garbage code on two entirely different
laptops).

Strange: MMVs. I frequently experience treacle-time at work which I
directly trace to IE, and this was the case both under XP and 7.
Granted, the main culprit is some grotty code my employer uses, which
only works via IE: but, when it's making IE crawl or freeze, the rest of
the computer is sluggish. And just this afternoon I experienced similar
sluggishness here when using IE (I had to because of some websites [such
as google images] which weren't/aren't displaying images in Firefox):
the user experience was very similar.

I do grant that, here, I'm less experienced with IE than F, and if I
were more so _might_ get round the treacle-effect; that doesn't apply at
work, though (where I have to use it anyway so am used to it).
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  #51  
Old February 8th 14, 05:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Shadow
writes:
[]
Nice = The clickerty sound. It does not phone home. It saves

[]
Since you don't explain what you mean by "The clickerty sound", I can
only assume you mean keyclicks. If you want those,
http://www.leeos.com/noisy_keyboard.html (and the mouse one!) is (are!)
still there - get them while they are, as the site doesn't seem to have
been altered since 2003, so I imagine it may not be there much longer.
It (they) work fine under XP (and many previous); whether 7 or not I
don't know (I'd say there's a good chance as the integration seems to be
well written).

Don't use unless you live alone ... (-:
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quite a cool thing to be, all of a sudden. - Daniel Radcliffe, in Radio Times,
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  #52  
Old February 8th 14, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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On 2/8/2014 8:35 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message
, BillW50 writes:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

[]
So you're going to make someone bounce between a word processor and
spreadsheet program just to, for example, see a list of ingredients in
a recipe?


Naw, MS Word can read Excel tables right inside of a Word document. This
is called integration.


I guess we should avoid the word "table". If you mean a grid (with or
without visible lines), then a spreadsheet - Excel or other - is NOT the
way to make it. (Microsoft haven't helped by putting grid-helping
facilities in Excel; I suppose "the customer is always right" so they
had to, rather than telling the customer s/he was a twit for doing it
that way.)

A *spreadsheet* is for data on which calculations are anticipated.
Granted, not _all_ the columns/rows will have sums done on them - I've
nothing against column and row headings - but if _all_ you want is the
_layout_, don't use a spreadsheet. (VanguardLH [what's the origin of
that name by the way?] are for once in agreement on something!)


Odd? If I need a blank form let's say for daily blood glucose readings,
a spreadsheet is the way to do it. Why what would you use to create such
a form? You would use a word processor?

Ever read a newspaper or even a small one-page flyer?
Really, that's your argument for not supporting tables in a word
processor, that you don't need columnar formatting ever?


I don't think of columns as tables per se. By the way, Atlantis does
support columns.


I find true columns as Word implements them rather clunky, though I can
see that if I was doing things that use them a lot, I'd use them. If I
just want a short section to have columns, I'm likely to use a table.
That's a Word table, of course - not a spreadsheet.


Sure if you were using Word, but the original topic was doing it under
Atlantis. And Atlantis doesn't do tables. It does columns though.

Uh huh, and I suppose you never used the tab key to align text either
in a single or multiple columns.


Indeed, for a simple case. (At least it's better than using spaces,
which I've - in pain! - seen people do. Especially with non-monospaced
text!)


Actually some people strip tabs from documents and replace them with
spaces for devices that doesn't use tab characters. Worse some software
interprets tabs differently. I seem to recall most see a tab as eight
character spacing. But not all use the same.

Just look at a desktop with icons sometime. The labels are center
aligned and non-monospaced font is used. And that looks just fine.

I've been using word processors and text editors since the early 80's.
And back in the CP/M-DOS days I have created a few tables by using tab
characters. But since then, I can't think of a single time I wanted to
create a table (outside of a spreadsheet). And since I save lots of
computer articles (I use plain text if I can get away with it). And
tables just makes the task of converting to plain text a bit harder. Too
many people are creating tables and using them for things that are
totally unnecessary.


I'm sure some are, but grid layout does make a lot of things easier to
see at a glance.


Sure they can, like it makes a lot of sense in a spreadsheet. But not
for setting the left and right margins of an article. Why do they do
this? So it fits nicely on an iPhone or what?

Tables in documents aren't necessarily and most times are not a
spreadsheet with cells containing formulae. They are just a means of


Hear hear!


Don't forget that databases can do tables and you can process both
letters and numerals.

providing easy columnar *formatting*. So why bother with bolding,
italics, spacing between paragraphs, justification, bullet lists, or
any of that other unnecessary formatting fluff? Just with a plain
text editor, like Notepad, if you think formatting is unimportant.


I don't know, we do pretty well in plain text newsgroups without all of
that stuff. Some experts claim that plain text doesn't contain
formatting. But I disagree. Plain text can be formatted to contain many
of the features you listed above.


If you use monospaced text, then it isn't hard to make a table - grid -
in plain text using tabs; most plain text handlers to actually handle tabs.


True, and I use this all of the time. And it works in Atlantis as well.

That you don't need to use tables for columnar formatting is hardly an
excuse for a word *processor* to omit the feature. I didn't even


Agreed - tables should be included as part of a word processor (meaning
grids, not a spreadsheet [though I think Word's tables can do very
limited sums too!]).


Yes lots of word processors can do this including good old WordStar.
Also most of them can sort a list in a column. This is much like a
database function.

--
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  #53  
Old February 8th 14, 05:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , BillW50
writes:
[]
You know, back in the 80's you didn't use GUI word processors for
tables. You used a GUI publisher instead. Whatever happened to those?


Interesting question! I guess GUI word processors got better (or at
least computing power rose enough to make them work well enough to do
what the publisher did) that they fell away.
[]
I can't think of a single time I wanted to
create a table (outside of a spreadsheet).


Oh, I do them all the time, and never use a spreadsheet to do them.
[]
editing. Seems you should be happy with Notepad in Windows and vim in
Linux.


Actually it is very tricky and one requires powerful word processors to
pull it off with any productivity. No notepad is a very lousy tool for
the job. As notepad has no line length rulers, no reformatting macros,
no margins, etc.


(There are Notepad alternatives that have various extras - I use
Notepad+, which I think has rulers, for example; there are plenty of
others.)
[]
Talking of small word processors, how big is WordPad? I was surprised to
find it is still there in 7. I remember in the early days of Windows,
finding that it did a lot of what I wanted from a WP. Then (though not
now), there is the WP that was part of the Works suite, before that got
nobbled (initially by replacing it with actual Word, and then removal of
the Works suite altogether - I still suspect because MS found it was
preventing sales of Office [and indirectly later Windows], as it was
very economical with its resource demands [so also stopped people having
to buy new computers]).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I think I'm sexy in a nerdy way, and I'm perfectly happy with that. That's
quite a cool thing to be, all of a sudden. - Daniel Radcliffe, in Radio Times,
11-17 February 2012
  #54  
Old February 8th 14, 05:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , BillW50
writes:
[]
Odd? If I need a blank form let's say for daily blood glucose readings,
a spreadsheet is the way to do it. Why what would you use to create
such a form? You would use a word processor?


Why not? I'd use a spreadsheet if I was going to do sums on the figures,
which for that example is quite possible (weekly totals and so on), so
it's not an example I'd choose: I'd pick something like, say, a daily
rota where you put names by days of the week (whose job it is to mop the
floor and similar). For _that_, I see a word processor as no more
onerous than a spreadsheet, and it would give me better text control.
[]
I find true columns as Word implements them rather clunky, though I can
see that if I was doing things that use them a lot, I'd use them. If I
just want a short section to have columns, I'm likely to use a table.
That's a Word table, of course - not a spreadsheet.


Sure if you were using Word, but the original topic was doing it under
Atlantis. And Atlantis doesn't do tables. It does columns though.


OK; if I was doing it in Word and hadn't familiarised myself with its
table functions as much as I have, I'd probably use its column function.
I certainly wouldn't use a spreadsheet.
[]
Actually some people strip tabs from documents and replace them with
spaces for devices that doesn't use tab characters. Worse some software
interprets tabs differently. I seem to recall most see a tab as eight
character spacing. But not all use the same.


Indeed. I remember _hardware_ (terminals - maybe VT100?) that took tabs
as (make-up-to-)eight characters, but I agree, I've certainly seen some
softwares that use other figures - some computer-language-oriented
editors use 4, for example, though that's mainly a default that is
alterable.

Just look at a desktop with icons sometime. The labels are center
aligned and non-monospaced font is used. And that looks just fine.


(The non-monospacing is a default only of course). I'm not sure of the
point you're making: desktops default to putting icons on a grid (with
slight variations in what's available and what's the default, between
different versions of Windows etc.). I'm not sure how that relates to
the question/opinion of whether word processors should do grids or not.
[]
many people are creating tables and using them for things that are
totally unnecessary.


I'm sure some are, but grid layout does make a lot of things easier to
see at a glance.


Sure they can, like it makes a lot of sense in a spreadsheet. But not


I'm still not sure if you're meaning "table" when you say "spreadsheet".
For (another) example of where I'd use a grid, but not have any
intention of doing sums on it, consider the comparison of features of
several competing candidates - be it software (such as word
processors!), models of car, whatever. I find _that_ sort of comparison
- which models do tables, have central locking, whatever - much easier
to follow in a _grid_ than if each just had its plus and minus points
listed in a paragraph. (Salesmen, of course, like the latter, as they
can list the good points without mentioning the omissions, and it's less
obvious.)

for setting the left and right margins of an article. Why do they do


I think that's what they call a "straw man" - I'd never even think of
using a spreadsheet just to set margins. (In fact, thinking of Excel
which is the only spreadsheet I know well, margins are one of the bigger
pains in that, IMO. In fact Excel is the least WYSIWYG part of Office -
which is OK for its primary purpose, but doesn't make it good for
_grids_.)

this? So it fits nicely on an iPhone or what?

Tables in documents aren't necessarily and most times are not a
spreadsheet with cells containing formulae. They are just a means of


Hear hear!


Don't forget that databases can do tables and you can process both
letters and numerals.


Databases are a different matter again. (I did actually do a training
course on the Office one - Agent is it? - but enough years ago that I've
forgotten lots of it, including obviously the name!)
[]
That you don't need to use tables for columnar formatting is hardly an
excuse for a word *processor* to omit the feature. I didn't even


Agreed - tables should be included as part of a word processor (meaning
grids, not a spreadsheet [though I think Word's tables can do very
limited sums too!]).


Yes lots of word processors can do this including good old WordStar.
Also most of them can sort a list in a column. This is much like a
database function.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I think I'm sexy in a nerdy way, and I'm perfectly happy with that. That's
quite a cool thing to be, all of a sudden. - Daniel Radcliffe, in Radio Times,
11-17 February 2012
  #55  
Old February 8th 14, 06:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Hi, John.

Databases are a different matter again. (I did actually do a training

course on the Office one - Agent is it? - but enough years ago that I've
forgotten lots of it, including obviously the name!)

Microsoft Access

I used it quite a bit in my CPA practice - but that ended over 20 years ago.
I still have it installed (in Office 2010) in Win8.1 but almost never even
open it.

RC

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Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8.1 Pro


"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...

SNIP

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  #56  
Old February 8th 14, 06:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , BillW50
writes:
[]
You know, back in the 80's you didn't use GUI word processors for
tables. You used a GUI publisher instead. Whatever happened to those?


Interesting question! I guess GUI word processors got better (or at
least computing power rose enough to make them work well enough to do
what the publisher did) that they fell away.


I just checked one of my MS Office 2000 Pro CDs and Microsoft Publisher
is on there. Anybody recall which was the last Office that had it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Publisher

Wow! It was never dropped. As it is still found in the more expensive
versions of Office.

[]
I can't think of a single time I wanted to
create a table (outside of a spreadsheet).


Oh, I do them all the time, and never use a spreadsheet to do them.
[]
editing. Seems you should be happy with Notepad in Windows and vim
in Linux.


Actually it is very tricky and one requires powerful word processors
to pull it off with any productivity. No notepad is a very lousy tool
for the job. As notepad has no line length rulers, no reformatting
macros, no margins, etc.


(There are Notepad alternatives that have various extras - I use
Notepad+, which I think has rulers, for example; there are plenty of
others.)


While I used Notepad+, there was something I didn't like about it. I do
like NewtPad (newtpad.com) a lot ($20 to buy). While it works fine for
plain text files, its main purpose is for writing programming scripts,
etc.

[]
Talking of small word processors, how big is WordPad? I was surprised
to find it is still there in 7. I remember in the early days of
Windows, finding that it did a lot of what I wanted from a WP. Then
(though not now), there is the WP that was part of the Works suite,
before that got nobbled (initially by replacing it with actual Word,
and then removal of the Works suite altogether - I still suspect
because MS found it was preventing sales of Office [and indirectly
later Windows], as it was very economical with its resource demands
[so also stopped people having to buy new computers]).


Last time I tried to figured out how to run WordPad as a stand alone
application, I found WordPad isn't just one exe, but a number of files
scattered all over the place. I think it might even need some dll files
in the Windows folder. And before WordPad came around, early versions of
Windows had Write instead. And even today if you type Write into a
command prompt, WordPad pops up.

Oh man, Works! Just about every Windows machine I ever purchased came
with Works. The OEM license was something like 15 bucks I was told. Even
this machine came with Works. I used just about every version from 2 to
9. And for me, it was almost good enough to use daily. The one feature
which would have helped me a lot was if it supported macros. I think
Microsoft left that one out as they knew they would lose a lot of Office
sales if they included it in Works. At least in my case, I did purchase
a lot of copies of Office because it had macro support.

--
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Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center


  #57  
Old February 8th 14, 06:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:12:12 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

Talking of small word processors, how big is WordPad?



In Windows 8, it's 4,455 KB.

But I wouldn't call it a word processor. To me it's nothing more than
a glorified text editor.
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Old February 8th 14, 07:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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In message , Ken Blake
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:12:12 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Talking of small word processors, how big is WordPad?



In Windows 8, it's 4,455 KB.

But I wouldn't call it a word processor. To me it's nothing more than
a glorified text editor.


To me, a text editor uses a monospaced font, of a fixed size and
colo(u)r, and with no bold, underline, or italic; and doesn't usually do
word-wrapping. Or any justification other than the default left.
Basically, could be (and was!) used on a character-mode terminal. Edit,
in DOS (I've just tried typing it into a Run box - it's still there in
XP!) was a (not very good) example.

For a lot of light home users, I suspect WordPad would do all they want.
It's even got a print preview!
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Old February 8th 14, 07:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 04/02/2014 17:22, BillW50 wrote:
I often don't get very excited about the daily offering on
Giveawayoftheday.com. And today was just another word processor which I
tried dozens of them in the past and almost none of them impress me at
all. But I must say just using this Atlantis Word Processor for a few
hours has really impressed me. If you are frustrated over non MS Word
word processors like me, this one is definitely worth a look. And it can
be portable too. ;-)

Atlantis is good, but it doesn't support tables which is really
inconvenient.

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Old February 8th 14, 07:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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In message , dadiOH
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I can't comment on your other concerns as they aren't things I use, need or
want. I am sure there are more full featured word processors but simplicity
decreases with features.


"they aren't things I use, need, or want". This statement bears
examination. They aren't things you use, that's self-evident! They
aren't things you need - depends on your definition of need; you don't
_need_ a word processor, or even a computer. As to whether they're
things you _want_ - well, I suppose if you don't actually know about
them you can't want them; however, they might be things you'd want _if_
you actually saw them.

One thing I do like about it is the ability to save in htm. I have and can
use html editors but rarely use them as I don't have much need for them.
The web pages in my sig were made with Atlantis and IrfanView.

Is the HTML code it produces (a) standards-compliant (b) compact? I only
ask because I'm most unimpressed with what Word produces. Try the
following (change the {} to ):

{HTML}{HEAD}{/HEAD}
{BODY}
{FONT COLOR=RED}red}{/FONT}
{FONT COLOR=YELLOW}yellow{/FONT}
{/BODY}
{/HTML}

create that (e. g. in notepad), save it as colours.htm, load it into
Word, re-save it, look at the size, look at it in notepad ...

(I think Word's output might just be standards-compliant.)
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