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  #16  
Old March 5th 14, 05:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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"Leala" wrote in message
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On 04-Mar-2014 22:14, Ron wrote:
On 3/4/2014 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM
64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll
have to return it for a replacement.


My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win
8.1.


Mmmm.... You say your WLM is working fine and yet you post with TB.
Should we believe you. (Not)


Maybe you got a corrupt copy Leala.

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  #17  
Old March 5th 14, 05:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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"Ken Springer" wrote in message
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On 3/5/14 6:38 AM, BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM
64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll
have to return it for a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so
she could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.


I am wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze
ups? I was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no
freezing with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB
started freezing? I know it is there in v12 too.


Hi, Bill.

Are you talking about a dead in its tracks freeze, or the temp hang up
it occasionally has, but recovers from? I get the 2nd one, but never
the first.

But I have long list of things that are buggy, but haven't forked over
the $$ to get Office for Mac and return to Outlook.


Yes all of mine freezes when it checks for new messages. If you turn off
automatic checking, it is fine. But if don't get new messages either.

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Bill
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Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #18  
Old March 5th 14, 05:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote in message
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Bob Henson wrote:

BillW50 wrote:
I am wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze
ups? I was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no
freezing with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB
started freezing? I know it is there in v12 too.


Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave
all ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what
you were doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any
version of Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.


Same here. I've been using Thunderbird for email since version 0.2 and
have never experienced any "freeze ups." I have 15 email accounts, and
three news accounts.

It's most likely just another BillW50 self-inflicted individual
problem. Others need not worry.


If you believe your theory, I have a bridge I would love to sell you.
;-) Otherwise all you have to do is to search on the net and this is the
number one complaint about TB.

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Bill
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Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #19  
Old March 5th 14, 06:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Leala
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On 05-Mar-2014 11:44, BillW50 wrote:
"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 04-Mar-2014 22:14, Ron wrote:
On 3/4/2014 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM
64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll
have to return it for a replacement.

My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win
8.1.


Mmmm.... You say your WLM is working fine and yet you post with TB.
Should we believe you. (Not)


Maybe you got a corrupt copy Leala.


A corrupt copy of what?
Surely not WLM because I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole.

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  #20  
Old March 5th 14, 06:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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"Bob Henson" wrote in message
...
On 05/03/2014 1:38 PM, BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM
64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll
have to return it for a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so
she could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.


I am wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze
ups? I was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no
freezing with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB
started freezing? I know it is there in v12 too.


Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave
all ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what
you were doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any
version of Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.


I don't know how you didn't get the memo? As it is the number one of
Thunderbird on the net.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #21  
Old March 5th 14, 06:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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"Blue" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM
64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll
have to return it for a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so
she could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.


I am wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze
ups? I was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no
freezing with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB
started freezing? I know it is there in v12 too.


Funny, my TB, which is *always* up-to-date, has never froze. And I use
TB with 12 email accounts. I don't use TB for newsgroups, preferring
to keep things separate and using Seamonkey.


Funny, some have problems with OE6 and WLM too, I don't have those
problems here. Although the number one complaint about TB is it freezes
up too often.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #22  
Old March 5th 14, 06:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 3/5/2014 11:29 AM, Leala wrote:
On 04-Mar-2014 22:14, Ron wrote:
On 3/4/2014 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last version
that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM 64Bit
machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had Windows 8.1 free
upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I decided to recover it and
see if it works this time otherwise I'll have to return it for a
replacement.



My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win 8.1.


Mmmm.... You say your WLM is working fine and yet you post with TB.
Should we believe you. (Not)


Mmmmm....the OP needs to provide more info. The OP said "last version
that is not broken". For email my version is not "broken".
  #23  
Old March 5th 14, 06:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 05-Mar-2014 11:44, BillW50 wrote:
"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 04-Mar-2014 22:14, Ron wrote:
On 3/4/2014 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM
64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise
I'll have to return it for a replacement.

My version is 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) and it works fine on Win
8.1.

Mmmm.... You say your WLM is working fine and yet you post with TB.
Should we believe you. (Not)


Maybe you got a corrupt copy Leala.


A corrupt copy of what? Surely not WLM because I wouldn't touch that
with a 10 foot pole.


Oh... got ya! As you are more of the type to be into the enhanced bug
riddled Mozilla. ;-)

Bug List
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist...ch=thunderbird

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #24  
Old March 5th 14, 07:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
Blue[_3_]
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BillW50 wrote:
"Bob Henson" wrote in message
...
On 05/03/2014 1:38 PM, BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8 RTM
64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise I'll
have to return it for a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so
she could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.

I am wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze
ups? I was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no
freezing with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB
started freezing? I know it is there in v12 too.


Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave
all ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what
you were doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any
version of Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.


I don't know how you didn't get the memo? As it is the number one of
Thunderbird on the net.


Google search results aren't credible proof. Just because others did
something stupid like whatever you did doesn't make it a fact. If it
were a flaw in the software, it would happen to everyone.

--
Blue
  #25  
Old March 5th 14, 07:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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BillW50 wrote:

Although the number one complaint about TB is it freezes
up too often.


Define "number one".

--
Blue
  #26  
Old March 5th 14, 07:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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"Blue" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote:

Although the number one complaint about TB is it freezes
up too often.


Define "number one".


Of all of the Thunderbird complaints that I hear, the freezing problems
shows up more often than any other one. Ken Springer even mentioned it
just today.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #27  
Old March 5th 14, 08:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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"Blue" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote:
"Bob Henson" wrote in message
...
On 05/03/2014 1:38 PM, BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:

Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8
RTM 64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise
I'll have to return it for a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so
she could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.

I am wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze
ups? I was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no
freezing with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB
started freezing? I know it is there in v12 too.


Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave
all ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what
you were doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any
version of Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.


I don't know how you didn't get the memo? As it is the number one of
Thunderbird on the net.


Google search results aren't credible proof. Just because others did
something stupid like whatever you did doesn't make it a fact. If it
were a flaw in the software, it would happen to everyone.


I did something stupid? Ok Mr Know-It-All, what would that be?

Everybody else knows Thunderbird is filled with bugs. It is a hardcore
bugware enthusiast dream come true. ;-)

Bug List
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist...ch=thunderbird

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #28  
Old March 5th 14, 08:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 05/03/2014 6:56 PM, BillW50 wrote:
"Blue" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote:

Although the number one complaint about TB is it freezes
up too often.


Define "number one".


Of all of the Thunderbird complaints that I hear, the freezing problems
shows up more often than any other one. Ken Springer even mentioned it
just today.


I've used it since it first started and freezing is not a thing I have
ever seen on all the versions of Windows since then and on several Linux
versions - although, like all programs, it has had a few problems that
is not one of them. Maybe it was something to so with the local system,
not Thunderbird?

--
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  #29  
Old March 5th 14, 08:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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"Bob Henson" wrote in message
...
On 05/03/2014 6:56 PM, BillW50 wrote:
"Blue" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote:

Although the number one complaint about TB is it freezes
up too often.


Define "number one".


Of all of the Thunderbird complaints that I hear, the freezing
problems shows up more often than any other one. Ken Springer even
mentioned it just today.


I've used it since it first started and freezing is not a thing I have
ever seen on all the versions of Windows since then and on several
Linux versions - although, like all programs, it has had a few
problems that is not one of them. Maybe it was something to so with
the local system, not Thunderbird?


Blue makes the same claims. But some people are a just poor beta tester,
that's life. ;-)

Bug List
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist...ch=thunderbird

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1


  #30  
Old March 5th 14, 08:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
Paul
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BillW50 wrote:
"Blue" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote:
"Bob Henson" wrote in message
...
On 05/03/2014 1:38 PM, BillW50 wrote:
"Adam Kubias" wrote in message
...
On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote:
Can somebody confirm that Version 14.0. 8117.0416 is the last
version that is not broken and can be safely used on Windows 8
RTM 64Bit machine. I had to recover my Toshiba machine which had
Windows 8.1 free upgrade but it was crashing all the time so I
decided to recover it and see if it works this time otherwise
I'll have to return it for a replacement.

I was helping my grandmother trying to set up Windows Live Mail so
she could use the Kodak printer's email scanned document feature.

Eventually, I gave up and resorted to TB.
I am wondering how she is coping with Thunderbird constant freeze
ups? I was playing with older backup copies from 2007. And I saw no
freezing with Thunderbird v1.5.0.8. So I wonder what version TB
started freezing? I know it is there in v12 too.

Since 24.3.0 is the current version, the best bet would be to leave
all ancient versions alone and use that. However, I don't know what
you were doing wrong, but I have never had any freezing with any
version of Thunderbird from its inception many years ago.
I don't know how you didn't get the memo? As it is the number one of
Thunderbird on the net.

Google search results aren't credible proof. Just because others did
something stupid like whatever you did doesn't make it a fact. If it
were a flaw in the software, it would happen to everyone.


I did something stupid? Ok Mr Know-It-All, what would that be?

Everybody else knows Thunderbird is filled with bugs. It is a hardcore
bugware enthusiast dream come true. ;-)

Bug List
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist...ch=thunderbird


Yes, everyone knows, that hiding your bugtracker from the
public, means you have no bugs in your software.

When I found a bug in Windows 8, and the same bug was present
in Windows 8.1 Preview, where could I report it ? Not to
any publicly visible bugtracker, that's for sure. The fact
it wasn't fixed in Windows 8.1 Preview, tells you how good
the bug detection techniques (telemetry) are at Microsoft.

Paul
 




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