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Old February 7th 15, 11:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Hi All,

Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean?

http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/

Virus Total says the site is clean

Many thanks,
-T
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Old February 8th 15, 12:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 22:55:58 -0000, T wrote:

Hi All,

Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean?

http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/

Virus Total says the site is clean

Many thanks,
-T


If it's illegal, why is it still up?
If it's legal, why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

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Old February 8th 15, 12:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?


Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?
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Old February 8th 15, 12:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?


Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


Be nice if it had SP1 installed too
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Old February 8th 15, 12:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?


Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


I think this is it, but I've never had to use it: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media

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Old February 8th 15, 12:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?


Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


Be nice if it had SP1 installed too


https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...windows-8.aspx

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Old February 8th 15, 12:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?


Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


Be nice if it had SP1 installed too


I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows 8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned.

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Old February 8th 15, 12:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 14:55:58 -0800, T wrote:

Hi All,

Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean?

http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/

Virus Total says the site is clean

Many thanks,
-T


The ISO by itself is harmless[1]. If you mount it as a drive and execute
code on it, that's another issue...So follow Ken1943's advice (unless
you find a good checksum).

[1] OK, I personally haven't heard of a way to cause harm by downloading
an ISO, even by mounting it (unless you auto execute it).

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Old February 8th 15, 01:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/07/2015 03:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?


Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


Hi Guy,

Took me a minute to realize that I had to click the create
media button to download a utility that lets me pick
what I want. I was looking for the ISO itself.

Oh, and the utility laid an egg when I tried to run it from
Wine. Chuckle, Chuckle.

I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it?

Thank you for helping me with this. Way easier than the stuff
I found on Google.

-T
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Old February 8th 15, 01:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/07/2015 03:48 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 14:55:58 -0800, T wrote:

Hi All,

Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean?

http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/

Virus Total says the site is clean

Many thanks,
-T


The ISO by itself is harmless[1]. If you mount it as a drive and execute
code on it, that's another issue...So follow Ken1943's advice (unless
you find a good checksum).

[1] OK, I personally haven't heard of a way to cause harm by downloading
an ISO, even by mounting it (unless you auto execute it).


Hi Gene,

I took Tough Guys advice and used the M$ utility on
the page he posted.

-T
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Old February 8th 15, 01:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/07/2015 03:46 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


Be nice if it had SP1 installed too


I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which
used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows
8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned.


Hi Guy,

Frankenstein has three versions:
W8.0
W8.1
W8.1-SP1

When I get all installed, I will see if SP1 shows
up anywhere.

By all reports SP1 can be an ugly upgrade.

Thank you again for helping me with this,
-T

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Old February 8th 15, 01:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 02/07/2015 04:05 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?


I think this is it, but I've never had to use it:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media


Hi Guy,

Took me a minute to realize that I had to click the create
media button to download a utility that lets me pick
what I want. I was looking for the ISO itself.

Oh, and the utility laid an egg when I tried to run it from
Wine. Chuckle, Chuckle.

I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it?

Thank you for helping me with this. Way easier than the stuff
I found on Google.

-T



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Old February 8th 15, 01:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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T wrote:
Hi All,

Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean?

http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/

Virus Total says the site is clean

Many thanks,
-T


Use the purported MD5 value, to guess at what
is being offered. Only accept an ISO, for which
an official SHA1 sum is offered. The MD5 can be
used for tracking tasks, but cannot be trusted for authentication.

Popping the checksum into Google, gives these references.
What does "VL" stand for ? Bueller ?

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...sitory/page258

en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x86_dvd_2972633

CRC32: 76A80D28
MD5: 49B428D6FB1A1E53C0682AED76664C2B
SHA-1: 9F1FCEC3B267EDB6F3BD02566BC889BB4A372BFD

en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x64_dvd_2971948

CRC32: 5EC88B9D
MD5: F9AC831F06A760C722DF0DF34F1B9397
SHA-1: CFCDF895679A5116F7F1C6406C20F99A1F850E49

*******

Those values aren't official. You would go to the
MSDN subscription page to verify the checksums
(SHA1 now offered).

Problem is, Microsoft removed older ISO9660 versions,
so it's not guaranteed you can find those particular
ones now. If you can't find them on the Microsoft
site, chances are they're not worth downloading.

MSDN subscription media is available via torrent
(by the gracious help of individual uploaders,
not because Microsoft cares), and then you can pick up
a SP1 or later version.

Just make sure, when you're playing these stupid games
that you:

1) Get SHA1 (not MD5) from *source* web site. In this case,
if the ISO9660 is originally from MSDN subscription, make
sure it comes with SHA1. And look up the value on the MSDN
site.

2) Compute SHA1 sum when the (torrent) download is complete.

If you had an MSDN subscription you wouldn't need to
do this torrent thing.

*******

And if you got the $39.95 electronic version of Win8 from
the microsoftstore, *please* do not upload that. Those
use install.esd and are traceable to you directly (every
electronic download has a different checksum). The reason
the MSDN versions are preferred, is they have a fixed checksum
that is the same for everybody. This is why Microsoft can
list an SHA1 sum for them. The MSDN ones use install.wim,
the electronics version for $39.95 (I have two), those
have install.esd. With a fingerprint on each one.

*******

And you, as a "security guy", downloading installer
material from some arbitrary site ? Really ? Are
these discs you give to clients ?

Paul
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Old February 8th 15, 01:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Is the iso safe?

On 02/07/2015 04:50 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
Hi All,

Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean?

http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/

Virus Total says the site is clean

Many thanks,
-T


Use the purported MD5 value, to guess at what
is being offered. Only accept an ISO, for which
an official SHA1 sum is offered. The MD5 can be
used for tracking tasks, but cannot be trusted for authentication.

Popping the checksum into Google, gives these references.
What does "VL" stand for ? Bueller ?

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...sitory/page258


en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x86_dvd_2972633

CRC32: 76A80D28
MD5: 49B428D6FB1A1E53C0682AED76664C2B
SHA-1: 9F1FCEC3B267EDB6F3BD02566BC889BB4A372BFD

en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x64_dvd_2971948

CRC32: 5EC88B9D
MD5: F9AC831F06A760C722DF0DF34F1B9397
SHA-1: CFCDF895679A5116F7F1C6406C20F99A1F850E49

*******

Those values aren't official. You would go to the
MSDN subscription page to verify the checksums
(SHA1 now offered).

Problem is, Microsoft removed older ISO9660 versions,
so it's not guaranteed you can find those particular
ones now. If you can't find them on the Microsoft
site, chances are they're not worth downloading.

MSDN subscription media is available via torrent
(by the gracious help of individual uploaders,
not because Microsoft cares), and then you can pick up
a SP1 or later version.

Just make sure, when you're playing these stupid games
that you:

1) Get SHA1 (not MD5) from *source* web site. In this case,
if the ISO9660 is originally from MSDN subscription, make
sure it comes with SHA1. And look up the value on the MSDN
site.

2) Compute SHA1 sum when the (torrent) download is complete.

If you had an MSDN subscription you wouldn't need to
do this torrent thing.

*******

And if you got the $39.95 electronic version of Win8 from
the microsoftstore, *please* do not upload that. Those
use install.esd and are traceable to you directly (every
electronic download has a different checksum). The reason
the MSDN versions are preferred, is they have a fixed checksum
that is the same for everybody. This is why Microsoft can
list an SHA1 sum for them. The MSDN ones use install.wim,
the electronics version for $39.95 (I have two), those
have install.esd. With a fingerprint on each one.

*******

And you, as a "security guy", downloading installer
material from some arbitrary site ? Really ? Are
these discs you give to clients ?

Paul



Thank you!
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Old February 8th 15, 02:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tough Guy no. 1265
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 00:09:07 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:46 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote:

On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself?

Because I could not find it. Do you have the link?

Be nice if it had SP1 installed too


I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which
used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows
8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned.


Hi Guy,

Frankenstein has three versions:
W8.0
W8.1
W8.1-SP1

When I get all installed, I will see if SP1 shows
up anywhere.

By all reports SP1 can be an ugly upgrade.

Thank you again for helping me with this,
-T


Dunno, M$ site says there is an "update 1" which goes on after the 8.1 part. Who knows! Everything there says you get them from Windows Update, so I'll just stick to that.

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