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Hi All,
Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean? http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/ Virus Total says the site is clean Many thanks, -T |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 22:55:58 -0000, T wrote:
Hi All, Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean? http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/ Virus Total says the site is clean Many thanks, -T If it's illegal, why is it still up? If it's legal, why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? -- How do you scare a man? Sneak up behind him and start throwing rice. |
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On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? |
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On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? Be nice if it had SP1 installed too |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? I think this is it, but I've never had to use it: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media -- What's the difference between a hooker and a drug dealer? A hooker can wash her crack and sell it again. |
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T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? Be nice if it had SP1 installed too https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...windows-8.aspx -- A |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? Be nice if it had SP1 installed too I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows 8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned. -- Having swallowed the most amount of semen ever officially recorded Michelle Monaghan had 1.7 pints (0.96 liter) of semen pumped out of her stomach in Los Angeles in July 1991. |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 14:55:58 -0800, T wrote:
Hi All, Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean? http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/ Virus Total says the site is clean Many thanks, -T The ISO by itself is harmless[1]. If you mount it as a drive and execute code on it, that's another issue...So follow Ken1943's advice (unless you find a good checksum). [1] OK, I personally haven't heard of a way to cause harm by downloading an ISO, even by mounting it (unless you auto execute it). -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 02/07/2015 03:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? I think this is it, but I've never had to use it: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media Hi Guy, Took me a minute to realize that I had to click the create media button to download a utility that lets me pick what I want. I was looking for the ISO itself. Oh, and the utility laid an egg when I tried to run it from Wine. Chuckle, Chuckle. I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it? Thank you for helping me with this. Way easier than the stuff I found on Google. -T |
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On 02/07/2015 03:48 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 14:55:58 -0800, T wrote: Hi All, Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean? http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/ Virus Total says the site is clean Many thanks, -T The ISO by itself is harmless[1]. If you mount it as a drive and execute code on it, that's another issue...So follow Ken1943's advice (unless you find a good checksum). [1] OK, I personally haven't heard of a way to cause harm by downloading an ISO, even by mounting it (unless you auto execute it). Hi Gene, I took Tough Guys advice and used the M$ utility on the page he posted. -T |
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On 02/07/2015 03:46 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? Be nice if it had SP1 installed too I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows 8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned. Hi Guy, Frankenstein has three versions: W8.0 W8.1 W8.1-SP1 When I get all installed, I will see if SP1 shows up anywhere. By all reports SP1 can be an ugly upgrade. Thank you again for helping me with this, -T |
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On 02/07/2015 04:05 PM, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:44 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:14 -0000, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? I think this is it, but I've never had to use it: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...-refresh-media Hi Guy, Took me a minute to realize that I had to click the create media button to download a utility that lets me pick what I want. I was looking for the ISO itself. Oh, and the utility laid an egg when I tried to run it from Wine. Chuckle, Chuckle. I wonder if the ISO has SP1 built into it? Thank you for helping me with this. Way easier than the stuff I found on Google. -T The turkey is sitting there at 0% for the last 1/2 hour |
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Hi All, Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean? http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/ Virus Total says the site is clean Many thanks, -T Use the purported MD5 value, to guess at what is being offered. Only accept an ISO, for which an official SHA1 sum is offered. The MD5 can be used for tracking tasks, but cannot be trusted for authentication. Popping the checksum into Google, gives these references. What does "VL" stand for ? Bueller ? http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...sitory/page258 en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x86_dvd_2972633 CRC32: 76A80D28 MD5: 49B428D6FB1A1E53C0682AED76664C2B SHA-1: 9F1FCEC3B267EDB6F3BD02566BC889BB4A372BFD en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x64_dvd_2971948 CRC32: 5EC88B9D MD5: F9AC831F06A760C722DF0DF34F1B9397 SHA-1: CFCDF895679A5116F7F1C6406C20F99A1F850E49 ******* Those values aren't official. You would go to the MSDN subscription page to verify the checksums (SHA1 now offered). Problem is, Microsoft removed older ISO9660 versions, so it's not guaranteed you can find those particular ones now. If you can't find them on the Microsoft site, chances are they're not worth downloading. MSDN subscription media is available via torrent (by the gracious help of individual uploaders, not because Microsoft cares), and then you can pick up a SP1 or later version. Just make sure, when you're playing these stupid games that you: 1) Get SHA1 (not MD5) from *source* web site. In this case, if the ISO9660 is originally from MSDN subscription, make sure it comes with SHA1. And look up the value on the MSDN site. 2) Compute SHA1 sum when the (torrent) download is complete. If you had an MSDN subscription you wouldn't need to do this torrent thing. ******* And if you got the $39.95 electronic version of Win8 from the microsoftstore, *please* do not upload that. Those use install.esd and are traceable to you directly (every electronic download has a different checksum). The reason the MSDN versions are preferred, is they have a fixed checksum that is the same for everybody. This is why Microsoft can list an SHA1 sum for them. The MSDN ones use install.wim, the electronics version for $39.95 (I have two), those have install.esd. With a fingerprint on each one. ******* And you, as a "security guy", downloading installer material from some arbitrary site ? Really ? Are these discs you give to clients ? Paul |
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On 02/07/2015 04:50 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote: Hi All, Is the ISO this web page points to safe/clean? http://getintopc.com/softwares/opera...-8-1-download/ Virus Total says the site is clean Many thanks, -T Use the purported MD5 value, to guess at what is being offered. Only accept an ISO, for which an official SHA1 sum is offered. The MD5 can be used for tracking tasks, but cannot be trusted for authentication. Popping the checksum into Google, gives these references. What does "VL" stand for ? Bueller ? http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...sitory/page258 en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x86_dvd_2972633 CRC32: 76A80D28 MD5: 49B428D6FB1A1E53C0682AED76664C2B SHA-1: 9F1FCEC3B267EDB6F3BD02566BC889BB4A372BFD en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x64_dvd_2971948 CRC32: 5EC88B9D MD5: F9AC831F06A760C722DF0DF34F1B9397 SHA-1: CFCDF895679A5116F7F1C6406C20F99A1F850E49 ******* Those values aren't official. You would go to the MSDN subscription page to verify the checksums (SHA1 now offered). Problem is, Microsoft removed older ISO9660 versions, so it's not guaranteed you can find those particular ones now. If you can't find them on the Microsoft site, chances are they're not worth downloading. MSDN subscription media is available via torrent (by the gracious help of individual uploaders, not because Microsoft cares), and then you can pick up a SP1 or later version. Just make sure, when you're playing these stupid games that you: 1) Get SHA1 (not MD5) from *source* web site. In this case, if the ISO9660 is originally from MSDN subscription, make sure it comes with SHA1. And look up the value on the MSDN site. 2) Compute SHA1 sum when the (torrent) download is complete. If you had an MSDN subscription you wouldn't need to do this torrent thing. ******* And if you got the $39.95 electronic version of Win8 from the microsoftstore, *please* do not upload that. Those use install.esd and are traceable to you directly (every electronic download has a different checksum). The reason the MSDN versions are preferred, is they have a fixed checksum that is the same for everybody. This is why Microsoft can list an SHA1 sum for them. The MSDN ones use install.wim, the electronics version for $39.95 (I have two), those have install.esd. With a fingerprint on each one. ******* And you, as a "security guy", downloading installer material from some arbitrary site ? Really ? Are these discs you give to clients ? Paul Thank you! |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 00:09:07 -0000, T wrote:
On 02/07/2015 03:46 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:41:39 -0000, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:41 PM, T wrote: On 02/07/2015 03:39 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote: why can't you download it from the M$ site itself? Because I could not find it. Do you have the link? Be nice if it had SP1 installed too I take it Windows 8 SP1 is the same thing as Windows 8.1? My PC which used to be Windows 8, has had all the updates and calls itself Windows 8.1 Pro in the system control panel. There is no SP1 mentioned. Hi Guy, Frankenstein has three versions: W8.0 W8.1 W8.1-SP1 When I get all installed, I will see if SP1 shows up anywhere. By all reports SP1 can be an ugly upgrade. Thank you again for helping me with this, -T Dunno, M$ site says there is an "update 1" which goes on after the 8.1 part. Who knows! Everything there says you get them from Windows Update, so I'll just stick to that. -- Researchers have recently unearthed the text of the first transcontinental telegraph message. Reportedly, it reads ENLARGE YOUR MALE MEMBER STOP GUARANTEED RESULTS STOP ... |
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