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  #1  
Old April 3rd 16, 04:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Blue Citizen
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Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator and
now it looks different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've
never seen before, Tonne for example, do you know this unit?

Hope you can help me.

Thanks,

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Old April 3rd 16, 04:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator and now it looks
different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've never seen before, Tonne
for example, do you know this unit?

Hope you can help me.


How is the weather in Portugal?

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Old April 3rd 16, 04:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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It's raining and windy. I guess downthere you have nice weather. Meanwhile
I've downloaded a free unit converter. Can you recommend another calculator?

Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator and
now it looks
different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've never seen
before, Tonne
for example, do you know this unit?

Hope you can help me.


"Paul in Houston TX" escreveu na mensagem
...

How is the weather in Portugal?

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Old April 3rd 16, 05:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Blue Citizen wrote:
It's raining and windy. I guess downthere you have nice weather. Meanwhile I've downloaded
a free unit converter. Can you recommend another calculator?

Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator and now it looks
different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've never seen before, Tonne
for example, do you know this unit?

Hope you can help me.


"Paul in Houston TX" escreveu na mensagem ...

How is the weather in Portugal?


Yes. Go he
http://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/
That is the best unit converter calculator I have ever used.
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Old April 3rd 16, 10:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 04:05:37 +0100, Blue Citizen wrote:

Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator and
now it looks different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've
never seen before, Tonne for example, do you know this unit?



1. The newton (N) is a unit of force.
In "type of unit", there is no option to select force.

2. Tonne is the metric ton (1000 kg).
Like what is used in Europe.


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Old April 3rd 16, 12:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message
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Blue Citizen wrote:
It's raining and windy. I guess downthere you have nice weather.
Meanwhile I've downloaded
a free unit converter. Can you recommend another calculator?

Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator
and now it looks
different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've never
seen before, Tonne
for example, do you know this unit?

Hope you can help me.


"Paul in Houston TX" escreveu na mensagem
...

How is the weather in Portugal?


Yes. Go he
http://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/
That is the best unit converter calculator I have ever used.


+1! Plus you can add your own custom conversions if something you need isn't
already there.
--

SC Tom


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Old April 3rd 16, 05:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Can you explain me how to add custom convertions?

Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator
and now it looks
different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've never
seen before, Tonne
for example, do you know this unit?

Hope you can help me.


"SC Tom" escreveu na mensagem ...
+1! Plus you can add your own custom conversions if something you need isn't
already there.
--

SC Tom

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Old April 3rd 16, 10:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Blue Citizen wrote:
Can you explain me how to add custom convertions?

Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator and now it looks
different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units I've never seen before, Tonne
for example, do you know this unit?

Hope you can help me.

"SC Tom" escreveu na mensagem ...
+1! Plus you can add your own custom conversions if something you need isn't
already there.


Options.
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Old April 4th 16, 10:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Wolf K" wrote in message
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On 2016-04-02 23:05, Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator and
now it looks different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units
I've
never seen before, Tonne for example, do you know this unit?


1,000kg, aka as "metric ton" for them as can't spell. English "ton" is
2,000lb. "Long ton" is 2,200lb, or approximately 999kg.


Interesting that you refer to the 2000 lb ton as the English ton, because
that unit isn't used in England (or other parts of the UK) - instead we use
112 lb / cwt (hundredweight) and 20 cwt / ton - ie the 2240 lb ton.

One of the big problems with the imperial system is that a unit with the
same name (pint, gallon, ton) has different meanings in different countries
(US versus UK) and even in different trades (avoirdupois versus troy). The
other problem is that no two units for the same measurement (eg mass,
length) are related by a power of ten; only by other integers such as 8, 12,
14, 16. Finally there is not even an integer relationship between length and
volume units: eg between cubic inch and gallon. (*)


(*) I needed to work out roughly how heavy a copper water cylinder would be
when full of water. I only had an imperial tape measure. Measure diameter
and length, and volume is pi r-squared l - but this gives volume in cubic
inches and I only know that "a pint of pure water weighs a pound and a
quarter" ie that a gallon weighs 10 lb. How many cubic inches ina gallon -
buggered if I know, even to an order of magnitude. I ended up converting
lengths to centimetres (using 2.5 cm = 1 in approximation) and working out
the volume in cc, and then the mass follows from knowing that 1000 cc weighs
1 kg.

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Old April 4th 16, 10:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"NY" wrote in message
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"Wolf K" wrote in message
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On 2016-04-02 23:05, Blue Citizen wrote:
Hello you, today I was trying unit conversion with Windows Calculator
and
now it looks different. Can't find Newton unit, plus it shows new units
I've
never seen before, Tonne for example, do you know this unit?


1,000kg, aka as "metric ton" for them as can't spell. English "ton" is
2,000lb. "Long ton" is 2,200lb, or approximately 999kg.


Interesting that you refer to the 2000 lb ton as the English ton, because
that unit isn't used in England (or other parts of the UK) - instead we
use 112 lb / cwt (hundredweight) and 20 cwt / ton - ie the 2240 lb ton.

One of the big problems with the imperial system is that a unit with the
same name (pint, gallon, ton) has different meanings in different
countries (US versus UK) and even in different trades (avoirdupois versus
troy). The other problem is that no two units for the same measurement (eg
mass, length) are related by a power of ten; only by other integers such
as 8, 12, 14, 16. Finally there is not even an integer relationship
between length and volume units: eg between cubic inch and gallon. (*)


(*) I needed to work out roughly how heavy a copper water cylinder would
be when full of water. I only had an imperial tape measure. Measure
diameter and length, and volume is pi r-squared l - but this gives volume
in cubic inches and I only know that "a pint of pure water weighs a pound
and a quarter" ie that a gallon weighs 10 lb. How many cubic inches ina
gallon - buggered if I know, even to an order of magnitude. I ended up
converting lengths to centimetres (using 2.5 cm = 1 in approximation) and
working out the volume in cc, and then the mass follows from knowing that
1000 cc weighs 1 kg.


I should add, this was before the days of the internet, and I didn't have a
calculator or any reference books - I was helping my dad renovate a cottage
in the middle of nowhere and we wanted a rough estimate of the weight to
judge whether a given baulk of wood would be strong enough to take the
weight of the cylinder.

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Old April 4th 16, 03:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 17:04:46 +0100, "Blue Citizen"
wrote:

Plus you can add your own custom conversions if something you need isn't
already there.


Everyone is waiting for the conversions of lead into gold and water
into wine to be added.
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Old April 4th 16, 05:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:45:33 +0100, "NY" wrote:


(*) I needed to work out roughly how heavy a copper water cylinder would be
when full of water. I only had an imperial tape measure. Measure diameter
and length, and volume is pi r-squared l - but this gives volume in cubic
inches and I only know that "a pint of pure water weighs a pound and a
quarter" ie that a gallon weighs 10 lb. How many cubic inches ina gallon -
buggered if I know, even to an order of magnitude. I ended up converting
lengths to centimetres (using 2.5 cm = 1 in approximation) and working out
the volume in cc, and then the mass follows from knowing that 1000 cc weighs
1 kg.




I just used convert.exe. It tool a fraction of a second to find out
that there are 231 cubic inches in a gallon.
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Old April 4th 16, 05:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 04:41:48 +0100, Blue Citizen wrote:

How is the weather in Portugal?


Someone in Portugal doesn't recognise the metric tonne? We're even
using it on official docs in the UK.
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Old April 4th 16, 06:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 09:33:23 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

I just used convert.exe. It tool a fraction of a second to find
out that there are 231 cubic inches in a gallon.


English gallon or US? They are different. These conversions can trip
people up very easily (as Wolf, above).
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Old April 4th 16, 08:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:45:33 +0100, "NY" wrote:


(*) I needed to work out roughly how heavy a copper water cylinder would
be
when full of water. I only had an imperial tape measure. Measure diameter
and length, and volume is pi r-squared l - but this gives volume in cubic
inches and I only know that "a pint of pure water weighs a pound and a
quarter" ie that a gallon weighs 10 lb. How many cubic inches ina gallon -
buggered if I know, even to an order of magnitude. I ended up converting
lengths to centimetres (using 2.5 cm = 1 in approximation) and working out
the volume in cc, and then the mass follows from knowing that 1000 cc
weighs
1 kg.




I just used convert.exe. It tool a fraction of a second to find out
that there are 231 cubic inches in a gallon.


This was in the days before people had computers, the internet etc, and even
calculators were just basic four-function ones, with no built-in conversion
factors.


http://www.metric-conversions.org/vo...ches-table.htm

says that there are an integer number (231.0) of cubic inches in a US
gallon, but

http://www.metric-conversions.org/vo...ches-table.htm

says that there a non-integer number (277.42) of cubic inches in a UK
gallon.

This is weird because I thought that a US pint was 16 fl oz and a UK pint
was 20 fl oz (with 8 US/UK pints making a US/UK gallon) so I'd expect a
ratio of exactly 16/20 = 4/5 between the two.

I'd forgotten about the US habit of measuring dry goods by volume (US dry
gallon) rather than by mass (pound) until I read other pages on that site,
but then US recipes often specify quantities of flour, marg and dried fruit
in cups (ie volume) rather than in ounces (mass). I presume there mist be a
"standard" cup of some well-known capacity in fl oz or cu in, in order to
match items such as eggs which are specified by number ("three
standard-sized eggs") rather than by measured units.

 




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