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Old August 23rd 16, 09:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Carpe Diem[_4_]
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Op 22-8-2016 om 14:33 schreef Wolf K:
On 2016-08-22 01:08, Carpe Diem wrote:
Op 22-8-2016 om 02:01 schreef Wolf K:

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I would take a 2016 Ford GT over a 2016 Mercedes-AMG GT S.

The price of a Mercedes is 20% for the machine and 80% for the
"reputation".


Is it not rather 20% reputation and 80% for the machine ;-)) ?


I used to think so until I drove one.

Have a good day,


You drove a Ford or a Mercedes?

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Old August 23rd 16, 05:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Op 23-8-2016 om 15:01 schreef Wolf K:
On 2016-08-23 04:25, Carpe Diem wrote:
Op 22-8-2016 om 14:33 schreef Wolf K:
On 2016-08-22 01:08, Carpe Diem wrote:
Op 22-8-2016 om 02:01 schreef Wolf K:

...
...
I would take a 2016 Ford GT over a 2016 Mercedes-AMG GT S.

The price of a Mercedes is 20% for the machine and 80% for the
"reputation".


Is it not rather 20% reputation and 80% for the machine ;-)) ?

I used to think so until I drove one.

Have a good day,


You drove a Ford or a Mercedes?


Mercedes. A sedan, about 40 years ago. Wallowed like barge, I guess that
was supposed to be its smooth handling. Hah. Maybe they've improved
since then. But so has every other marque. The differences between
brands these days is minuscule compared to the 80s and earlier.


I remember, about 15 years ago, my cousin had a Mercedes (an A150 or
A160 or something like that).
I had a Nissan Primera stationwagon.
One day I visited him and he asked me if he could try my Nissan.
After the "test", he said that he preferred the Nissan (and not his
Mercedes). I did not drive with the Mercedes, but anyway : I was
surprised...

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Old August 23rd 16, 07:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:18:51 +0200, Carpe Diem
wrote:

I remember, about 15 years ago, my cousin had a Mercedes (an A150 or
A160 or something like that).
I had a Nissan Primera stationwagon.
One day I visited him and he asked me if he could try my Nissan.
After the "test", he said that he preferred the Nissan (and not his
Mercedes). I did not drive with the Mercedes, but anyway : I was
surprised...



I hate to post this here, since it has nothing to do with Windows 8,
so I'll be as brief as possible.

Beside price, cars differ from each other in many different ways:
looks, comfort, luxury, features, top speed, acceleration, braking,
ease of driving, noise level, reliability, ability to avoid crashes,
ability to stay alive if you crash, etc.

We prefer one to another based on which of those are most important to
us, and like cars, people are also different from each other. So your
cousin may have thought your Nissan was better than his Mercedes, but
that doesn't mean that we all would have the same preference.

I don't know either of the cars you're talking about, but my guess is
that *I* would prefer the Mercedes.
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Old October 24th 16, 08:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Ron écrivait :

On 8/8/2016 3:41 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 17:12:49 +0000, Fritz Wuehler
wrote:

I didn't see any compelling reason to upgrade to Windows 10.

All my stuff works. Socks works, Tor works, SSL is okay, QS
works. Windows 8.1 is a very reliable OS and superior to Linux
or Mac.



If that's your choice, that's fine. I won't try to talk you into
anything.

But as far as I'm concerned, what you're saying is like "My Ford works
fine, so I don't want a Mercedes."


I would take a 2016 Ford GT over a 2016 Mercedes-AMG GT S.


It depends, the Mercedes looks more like a "street car" and the Ford like a
"race car".

The Ford seems a bit "low" for the bad roads in my area. :-)
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Old October 31st 16, 11:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 25/10/2016 3:59 AM, Dominique wrote:
It depends, the Mercedes looks more like a "street car" and the Ford like a
"race car".

The Ford seems a bit "low" for the bad roads in my area. :-)


Win 8.1 is definitely more responsive than Win 10 build 1607. There was
always some delay in screen refresh when using Firefox. Weird....
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Old October 31st 16, 12:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 25/10/2016 3:59 AM, Dominique wrote:
It depends, the Mercedes looks more like a "street car" and the Ford
like a
"race car".

The Ford seems a bit "low" for the bad roads in my area. :-)


Win 8.1 is definitely more responsive than Win 10 build 1607. There was
always some delay in screen refresh when using Firefox. Weird....


Does your Win10 actually have a display driver installed ?

Right-click start, select Device Manager, click the Display
Adapters one, and if it says "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter"
then you don't have a driver.

On my Test Machine right now, the "real world" install of
Win10 is using an AMD driver, and the adapter name is "HD6450".
That means my display is "accelerated" in hardware.

Whereas, in a Win10 VM I have loaded, the entry says
"Microsoft Basic Display Adapter". The display is unaccelerated.
(I did that on purpose.)

Firefox uses real time compositing to build the display
on the screen, and it composites 60 times per second.
It uses "acceleration" in the form of having the video
card do the compositing. If the OS is using the
Basic Display Adapter, I don't think that will do
hardware compositing. It would have to be emulated
or something.

My HD6450 was supported in Win8.1, but in Win10, there
were two drivers available. An in-box driver from Microsoft
for the HD6450 (with bugs in it, a CCC version). And the
second driver was a Crimson CCC2 driver package you could
get from ATI/AMD. And that one doesn't throw nuisance errors
on the screen any more.

If you did an Upgrade Install from Win8.1 to Win10 using
the various "Microsoft tricks to get you to upgrade",
that path would not install unless there was a display
driver. However, if you download an ISO from Microsoft
for Win10 and do a Clean Install, you can install
on hardware that doesn't have a driver. Then, the
screen is run using Microsoft Basic Display Adapter.

A side effect of MBDA, is you have limited resolution
setting choices. At one time, it would do 1024x768 max.

Paul
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Old October 31st 16, 12:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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On 31/10/2016 7:04 PM, Paul wrote:
Win 8.1 is definitely more responsive than Win 10 build 1607. There
was always some delay in screen refresh when using Firefox. Weird....


Does your Win10 actually have a display driver installed ?


Installed properly... can play games!

Firefox uses real time compositing to build the display
on the screen, and it composites 60 times per second.
It uses "acceleration" in the form of having the video
card do the compositing. If the OS is using the
Basic Display Adapter, I don't think that will do
hardware compositing. It would have to be emulated
or something.


Maybe it's a trick to "encourage" people to use Edge. Firefox under 8.1
definitely refreshed faster... The nano-second delay was like someone
taking a screenshot of your desktop.

 




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