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IE 11....What a Mess!
I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! Oreally |
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IE 11....What a Mess!
On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:20:50 -0800, "OREALLY"
wrote: I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! I don't use IE, so I haven't had you experience. But I know that if I did use it and had such problems, I would simply switch to a different browser. My favorite is FireFox. |
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IE 11....What a Mess!
There are significant advantages to IE. But Microsoft doesn't seem to give a
hoot about its reliability! "Ken Blake" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:20:50 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! I don't use IE, so I haven't had you experience. But I know that if I did use it and had such problems, I would simply switch to a different browser. My favorite is FireFox. |
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OREALLY wrote:
I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! Oreally There's supposed to be a "Reset" option. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...rer-reset.html Only a few of the ideas here are applicable. Usually references to a "fixit" are a waste of time - the OS has a Troubleshooting folder, and that's usually the only "Fixit" you're going to get. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...er-issues.html You can uninstall it, and the OS will use the previous version of IE. Then reinstall it again. If files are left in cache folders or the like, I doubt a reinstall would clean it. The second tutorial, where it recommends removing ActiveX plugins that have been inserted, probably makes more sense. You should be able to find a "standalone IE11" to install, but it still has a network component. This is because modern IE uses hardware acceleration, may need some DirectX materials for the acceleration, and so you will see it downloading crap in the background. On a machine which is reasonably up to date, the downloading should not last more than about 30 sceonds or so. However. I have had the IE installer go off into the weeds - it probably downloaded 500MB worth of stuff for itself in that one case. I do not appreciate the fact that while the installer does these things, there is no notification on the screen such as "Getting KB1234567" or the like. It's completely silent, and "it's the boss". https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/...line-installer Paul |
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"OREALLY" wrote
| There are significant advantages to IE. I can't imagine what those might be. But if you really want to use it, you might try using compatibility mode more. I don't know if it will prevent "stopped working" messages or not. You didn't mention any pattern to those, so it's hard for anyone to guess the problem. But for what it's worth: IE11 and Edge have broken compatibility with traditional IE approach. Support has been dropped for VBScript, ActiveX, and all sorts of rendering details that used to be standard in IE. For IE5-10, each version is slightly incompatible with the last, but at least they're all IE. With IE11/Edge, much of the IE functionality is broken or missing, and it pretends to be another browser by spoofing the userAgent. (I'm not joking here. MS have actually designed IE11/Edge to trick websites about what browser you're using!) For many years, websites would recognize IE by "MSIE" in the userAgent. Most commercial sites will check the userAgent and then customize the page accordingly. In many cases they even serve different pages for diferent IE versions. A typical IE userAgent would be like so: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/6.0) With IE11 MS has spoofed it to look like Firefox, adding "like Gecko" and "rv:" while removing "MSIE": Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko The Edge userAgent is designed to look like Chrome: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/51.0.2704.79 Safari/537.36 Edge/14.14393 Pretending to be using a different browser can cause all sorts of problems, but as with their past few IE versions, MS protests that they now support web standards and they don't want sites to cater pages to IE. So they try to trick websites! There's one major difference between IE11 and Edge. The former still has normal IE functionality. It's just disabled. (Edge, by contrast, is simply broken; a strippped down version of IE.) You can set compatibility mode for IE11 on a per-domain basis and then IE11 will enable normal IE functionality and send a userAgent pretending to be IE7. If you want to try that for problem websites, first you may need to press Alt if the main menu is not showing. Then click Tools - Compatibility View Settings and add the domain of interest there. |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY"
wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. But Microsoft doesn't seem to give a hoot about its reliability! I have very little experience with IE11, but the few times I've tried it I haven't had such problems. And back in the days when used older IE versions, I also had no such problems. And none of the many people I know who use IE11 have had such problems. "Ken Blake" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:20:50 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! I don't use IE, so I haven't had you experience. But I know that if I did use it and had such problems, I would simply switch to a different browser. My favorite is FireFox. |
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On 02/18/2017 12:20 PM, OREALLY wrote:
I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! Oreally I haven't used IE much since Firefox .9 came out. Just for testing and the few sites that require IE (it's been years since that happened). I use Firefox whenever possible. If there's a site that won't work in FF, I use Chrome or Opera. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "The _root_ meaning of 'service' is like what the bull does to the cow" |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:05:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. Ken, I suspect you've fallen for a troll. The initial rant was silly enough, since -- as you rightly pointed out -- it's quite easy to switch to a real browser. But the claim of "advantages" to IE11 is even more silly, and I can't imagine that anyone including the OP believes it. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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OREALLY wrote:
I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! As Paul mentioned, reset IE (Internet Options - Advanced tab). That will reset settings back to default and also disable any add-ons you installed. If that works, uninstall the add-ons you no longer need. Then reenable one add-on at a time and use for awhile to test if the problem reappears or not. If not, reenable another add-on and retest for awhile. Have you tried disabling your anti-virus, firewall, or other security software to retest for awhile that way? When was the last time you installed any updates for Windows? Have you rebooted the computer since then? Not a hibernate or standby mode but a full reboot. When was the last time you did a full scan for malware and using more than one security program (and which ones)? |
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On 18/02/2017 19:36, OREALLY wrote:
But Microsoft doesn't seem to give a hoot about its reliability! It does. It has released a new browser called Microsoft Edge but you need to be on Windows 10 to benefit from it. Microsoft Edge is Standards Compliant and it fully supports HTML5 and CSS3 which most web designers use these days to create their sites. IE is no longer developed. Either upgrade your operating system (to Windows 10) or start using some other alternatives. -- If you want to filter all of my posts then please read this article: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters In step 7 select "Delete" With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Yes...thanks Done all that. I'm now experimenting with delaying IE startup.
We'll see. "VanguardLH" wrote in message ... OREALLY wrote: I don't know about you folks but I am sick of seeing IE11 scew up! Every day I get messages about how it must close, or has stopped working...or even that it has stopped working when it clearly is working. If anyone knows how to repair this mess let us know. I'm using Win 7 / 64 / Pro. But this browser wouldn't even qualify as a Beta program based on its current unreliability! As Paul mentioned, reset IE (Internet Options - Advanced tab). That will reset settings back to default and also disable any add-ons you installed. If that works, uninstall the add-ons you no longer need. Then reenable one add-on at a time and use for awhile to test if the problem reappears or not. If not, reenable another add-on and retest for awhile. Have you tried disabling your anti-virus, firewall, or other security software to retest for awhile that way? When was the last time you installed any updates for Windows? Have you rebooted the computer since then? Not a hibernate or standby mode but a full reboot. When was the last time you did a full scan for malware and using more than one security program (and which ones)? |
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Stan Brown wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:05:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. Ken, I suspect you've fallen for a troll. The initial rant was silly enough, since -- as you rightly pointed out -- it's quite easy to switch to a real browser. But the claim of "advantages" to IE11 is even more silly, and I can't imagine that anyone including the OP believes it. No, that's what happens when someones Internet Banking only works with a specific version of Internet Explorer (ActiveX etc.). Other than some quirk like that, it doesn't really have any advantages at all. But your bank probably likes it. The banks even like to drag their heels, optimizing for IE10 when IE11 is out. Paul |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:32:32 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:05:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. Ken, I suspect you've fallen for a troll. The initial rant was silly enough, since -- as you rightly pointed out -- it's quite easy to switch to a real browser. But the claim of "advantages" to IE11 is even more silly, and I can't imagine that anyone including the OP believes it. You could be right. I thought that might be the case, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions. I'm waiting with bated breath for what he tells us are IE's advantages. g |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 15:00:38 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote: The Edge userAgent is designed to look like Chrome: Yes, I thought the same thing; ranking browsers from best to worst, starting with Firefox at the top, to me the three worst ones are Chrome, IE, and Edge, in that order. But we all have different views. Two of the things that perplex me are how many people like Chrome and how many people like Edge. |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:47:42 -0500, Paul
wrote: Stan Brown wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:05:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:36:54 -0800, "OREALLY" wrote: There are significant advantages to IE. If that's your view, that's fine with me. But it's not mine at all. In my opinion, Edge is the worst browser out there, and IE is a close second. Almost any other browser is preferable. Ken, I suspect you've fallen for a troll. The initial rant was silly enough, since -- as you rightly pointed out -- it's quite easy to switch to a real browser. But the claim of "advantages" to IE11 is even more silly, and I can't imagine that anyone including the OP believes it. No, that's what happens when someones Internet Banking only works with a specific version of Internet Explorer (ActiveX etc.). Other than some quirk like that, it doesn't really have any advantages at all. But your bank probably likes it. The banks even like to drag their heels, optimizing for IE10 when IE11 is out. My bank's web site works fine with FireFox. |
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