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I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it works fine. Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e Because I spent an hour trying to install bluetooth drivers yesterday and almost finished, I keep thinking the second connection is bluetooth, but for Bluetooth, there is no listed connection. https://aruljohn.com/mac/A028EDAD4E4E shows the first 3 sections go with vendor HMD Global Oy ! "This database was last updated on Tue, 19 March 2019" For Lookup Vendor, it shows not found. https://www.whatsmyip.org/mac-address-lookup/ shows the same thing. Hmd Global Oy, branded as HMD, is a Finnish mobile phone company, made up of the mobile phone business that Nokia had sold to Microsoft in 2014, then bought back in 2016. HMD Oy began marketing smartphones and feature phones under the Nokia brand on 1 December 2016. So is someone else's mobile phone using my mobile phone as a hotspot? The apartment has no wifi, and I have two roommates, neither of whom are here now, there is an apartment upstairs**, and there are some workmen just outside today. **I don't know the people upstairs but when I noticed this between 10 and 11AM, they were probably at work, not here. I have more data than I can use each month, so is this a problem? I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? (Osakeyhtiö ("stock company"), often abbreviated to Oy, is the Finnish name for a limited company (e.g., Ltd, LLC, Inc.). The Swedish name is Aktiebolag often abbreviated to Ab. ) |
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On 19/03/2019 10.10, micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it works fine. Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e Because I spent an hour trying to install bluetooth drivers yesterday and almost finished, I keep thinking the second connection is bluetooth, but for Bluetooth, there is no listed connection. https://aruljohn.com/mac/A028EDAD4E4E shows the first 3 sections go with vendor HMD Global Oy ! "This database was last updated on Tue, 19 March 2019" For Lookup Vendor, it shows not found. https://www.whatsmyip.org/mac-address-lookup/ shows the same thing. Hmd Global Oy, branded as HMD, is a Finnish mobile phone company, made up of the mobile phone business that Nokia had sold to Microsoft in 2014, then bought back in 2016. HMD Oy began marketing smartphones and feature phones under the Nokia brand on 1 December 2016. So is someone else's mobile phone using my mobile phone as a hotspot? The apartment has no wifi, and I have two roommates, neither of whom are here now, there is an apartment upstairs**, and there are some workmen just outside today. **I don't know the people upstairs but when I noticed this between 10 and 11AM, they were probably at work, not here. I have more data than I can use each month, so is this a problem? I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? He would be getting data from you. You should set the hotspot on the phone using a password and encryption, most certainly. Always, unless you are alone on a mountaintop. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it works fine. Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e Because I spent an hour trying to install bluetooth drivers yesterday and almost finished, I keep thinking the second connection is bluetooth, but for Bluetooth, there is no listed connection. https://aruljohn.com/mac/A028EDAD4E4E shows the first 3 sections go with vendor HMD Global Oy ! "This database was last updated on Tue, 19 March 2019" For Lookup Vendor, it shows not found. https://www.whatsmyip.org/mac-address-lookup/ shows the same thing. Hmd Global Oy, branded as HMD, is a Finnish mobile phone company, made up of the mobile phone business that Nokia had sold to Microsoft in 2014, then bought back in 2016. HMD Oy began marketing smartphones and feature phones under the Nokia brand on 1 December 2016. So is someone else's mobile phone using my mobile phone as a hotspot? The apartment has no wifi, and I have two roommates, neither of whom are here now, there is an apartment upstairs**, and there are some workmen just outside today. **I don't know the people upstairs but when I noticed this between 10 and 11AM, they were probably at work, not here. I have more data than I can use each month, so is this a problem? I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? (Osakeyhtiö ("stock company"), often abbreviated to Oy, is the Finnish name for a limited company (e.g., Ltd, LLC, Inc.). The Swedish name is Aktiebolag often abbreviated to Ab. ) It says you could use USB tethering here. I don't know if that "stops" the Wifi part or not. The other part I don't know about this, is how the OTG USB declares itself. Whether it uses a Class Code for networking, or it's just a "serial port" running at a lower rate. https://support.google.com/android/answer/9059108?hl=en If you don't have one, you might need a cable like this to try. https://www.amazon.ca/Micro-USB-OTG-.../dp/B00D8YZ2SA Paul |
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In article , J. P. Gilliver (John)
wrote: I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a I'd be surprised if there isn't at least a setting to require a wifi key, and to be able to change it. there is. password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? Yes, them having access in that way would only give them an internet connection on the face of it - though consider, see above, what they might be using it for. However, once they are "into your 'phone" by wifi, can they access e. g. its configuration settings, as a web page for example? no. I don't know how 'phones-as-hotspots work: I know I can change some settings in my home _router_ in such a way, but maybe 'phones don't give access to such settings other than to the person actually holding them? a router and a phone are very different devices. |
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In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote: You should set the hotspot on the phone using a password and encryption, most certainly. Always, yep unless you are alone on a mountaintop. in which case, there won't be a cellular signal, so it doesn't matter. |
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On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it works fine. Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with regard to security. The same for any other phone. There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot. |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:59:55 -0400, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R. wrote: unless you are alone on a mountaintop. in which case, there won't be a cellular signal, so it doesn't matter. A friend of mine did the one-day sprint to the top of Mt. Whitney, the highest peak in California, and when she reached the top, she called me on her cell phone. I was 150 miles away, and got the call just fine. -- croy |
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In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:14:16 +0000, MikeS
wrote: On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote: I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it works fine. Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with regard to security. The same for any other phone. There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot. Thanks and thanks all. I finally fond iturprisignly under Set up "WiFi hotspot. " |
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On 19/03/2019 22.14, MikeS wrote:
On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote: I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it works fine. Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices connected.Â*Â* One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with regard to security. The same for any other phone. Well, it has fewer options. We can't configure the firewall, for instance. There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot. Right. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 20 Mar 2019 23:24:29 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." wrote: On 19/03/2019 22.14, MikeS wrote: On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote: I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it works fine. Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices connected.** One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and from the cellular connection to the web, not from me? An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with regard to security. The same for any other phone. Well, it has fewer options. We can't configure the firewall, for instance. There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot. Right. I want to be like Johnny Appleseed, sprinkling my data wherever I go. |
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