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What is the active W/7 group?
On Sun, 26 May 2019 15:35:25 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2019 13:52:42 -0600, "Bill in Co" surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co" surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side. I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list. If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of FF (52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more mileage with XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting factor. Programs are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to consider adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there. Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization (or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day. The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much else with them. (hooked to TVs) My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in them when I got them and boot them up. I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7 with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that will let you run them? I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing anything extra. That was just a "copy and run it" thing. Here is a link for Classic Shell: http://www.classicshell.net/ When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome, which might work for your streaming issue. There is also the possibility of needing some additional codec software for FF to enable some better video playback capabilities, but that can get a bit complicated to track down and resolve. I figured out it was just easier to load 7 on my media machines than try to jury rig XP to run all of those things that black box and say "Upgrade your browser". PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least the old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does, so you would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the current version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to "support" XP transitions anymore. Can't you just have both drives in the machine and let mover move it ... or use the LAN? I guess I will have to do more digging on this myself. I just heard about it today. PC Mover is in charge of the process, and what it will and will not install on - it's not a dumb file copy process. The way it worked for me was with the specially supplied USB cable connecting the two PCs together. The process took a bit of time (both setting up correctly and running), and wasn't completely seemless, in that a few apps still had to be "reinstalled" due to some licensing issues or whatever, but most did not. And keep in mind it's locked to the original PCs it's installed on. I think you have to have two separate PC's for it to work. Just go to their web site and read more about it. I just looked, and it seems the current version can indeed work on XP (for the source). The user manuals are there too. https://web.laplink.com/pcmover_feature_overview/ OK I will know how this worked pretty soon. I got mover pro and used the option of putting the W/7 drive in my XP machine, booting it and doing a direct move. It said 9 minutes but I am about 35 in and 2/3ds done. Stay tuned. My agent was on the D drive and it is not an "installed" program so it runs fine without doing anything. I may leave both of them in here a while in case I need to go looking for something that didn't move over. Thanks for your help. You guys are great. |
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What is the active W/7 group?
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
Ah, a venerable name: I remember a "laplink cable" being one for transferring files between two PCs via the parallel ports! (There was also a serial one, but - in those days - the parallel went a lot more quickly.) I have used both. I remember parallel laplink really hogged CPU. -- Quote of the Week: "I discovered that if one looks a little closer at this beautiful world, there are always red ants underneath." --David Lynch Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.ma.cx. Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. | |o o| | \ _ / ( ) |
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What is the active W/7 group?
On Sun, 26 May 2019 20:50:25 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2019 15:35:25 -0600, "Bill in Co" surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2019 13:52:42 -0600, "Bill in Co" surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co" surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side. I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list. If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of FF (52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more mileage with XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting factor. Programs are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to consider adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there. Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization (or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day. The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much else with them. (hooked to TVs) My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in them when I got them and boot them up. I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7 with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that will let you run them? I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing anything extra. That was just a "copy and run it" thing. Here is a link for Classic Shell: http://www.classicshell.net/ When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome, which might work for your streaming issue. There is also the possibility of needing some additional codec software for FF to enable some better video playback capabilities, but that can get a bit complicated to track down and resolve. I figured out it was just easier to load 7 on my media machines than try to jury rig XP to run all of those things that black box and say "Upgrade your browser". PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least the old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does, so you would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the current version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to "support" XP transitions anymore. Can't you just have both drives in the machine and let mover move it ... or use the LAN? I guess I will have to do more digging on this myself. I just heard about it today. PC Mover is in charge of the process, and what it will and will not install on - it's not a dumb file copy process. The way it worked for me was with the specially supplied USB cable connecting the two PCs together. The process took a bit of time (both setting up correctly and running), and wasn't completely seemless, in that a few apps still had to be "reinstalled" due to some licensing issues or whatever, but most did not. And keep in mind it's locked to the original PCs it's installed on. I think you have to have two separate PC's for it to work. Just go to their web site and read more about it. I just looked, and it seems the current version can indeed work on XP (for the source). The user manuals are there too. https://web.laplink.com/pcmover_feature_overview/ Thanks I am talking to then now. They are telling me I need the pro version but they are selling me one for $48 Good. Just be prepared to spend a bit of time being careful in what you select to move over, when you look at all the program lists (which have checkboxes). And be sure to set aside enough time to do this whole thing, like perhaps a couple of hours or so (total time including setup, I mean). I used the supplied USB 2.0 Laplink cable for the transfer. In general, I was pretty happy with the results, as there was no way I wanted to install Windows 7 fresh and start all over again - not with the abundance of programs I've collected and installed over the past few decades. I am done. A lot of stuff did not port over but so far it all seems to be running OK if I start it from the G drive (my XP C) that confuses me because I assumed it would need files in the registry. It is getting late so tomorrow is another day. I really don't understand all I know about this process. I suspect I will be screwing with this for days. I may end up with 5 drives in this machine if simply manually copying the programs over won't work. I will try that first as soon as I figure out everything that didn't come over. One annoying thing is it seemed to wipe out my W/7 authorization. I was lucky I could still find the right numbers and it verified OK but it had me worried for a few minutes. Thanks again for your help. |
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Ant wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: Ah, a venerable name: I remember a "laplink cable" being one for transferring files between two PCs via the parallel ports! (There was also a serial one, but - in those days - the parallel went a lot more quickly.) I have used both. I remember parallel laplink really hogged CPU. There is a USB3 version of the Easy Transfer cable now. But you'll see reports of "sub" USB3 speeds. There is only one review here, and the purchaser got 100MB/sec from the cable. That's probably 200 times the rate of a parallel port version. Since Prolific made the USB2 version, it might involve a Prolific chip inside the dongle (they probably don't make a lot of these chips, might take a while to recoup their engineering expenses). https://www.amazon.ca/STARTECH-USB3L...ustomerReviews The USB versions use bidirectional FIFOs inside the dongle, so that peers can talk to one another. Each "computer" thinks what it sees on its end of the dongle is a "peripheral" of some sort. The parallel port ones would be limited by the transfer strobe method used on such interfaces. Paul |
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