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May 17th 14, 07:30 PM
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please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post...
i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ... 
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May 17th 14, 07:44 PM
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On 5/17/2014 1:30 PM, northwestdude wrote:
please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... Welcome! i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ... No password protection (meaning not secured) on your WiFi is what it sounds like to me and some of your neighbors logged on. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center
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May 17th 14, 07:57 PM
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 19:30:16 +0100, northwestdude wrote:
please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ... Have you enabled WPA security in your router? It's hard to interpret what you wrote, but it sounds like one or more of your neighbors' WiFi systems are connecting to your WiFi, which implies to me that you haven't made it secure. Don't use WEP - it's said to be not nearly as secure as the WPA family of encryption. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
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May 17th 14, 08:46 PM
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northwestdude wrote:
please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ... Are they really on your network list or just on your wifi list?
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May 17th 14, 08:53 PM
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May 17th 14, 09:09 PM
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 11:57:25 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
Don't use WEP - it's said to be not nearly as secure as the WPA family of encryption. AFAIK it's simply *not* secure (anymore)... -- s|b
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May 17th 14, 09:49 PM
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On 5/17/2014 3:09 PM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 11:57:25 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote: Don't use WEP - it's said to be not nearly as secure as the WPA family of encryption. AFAIK it's simply *not* secure (anymore)... WEP is easy to crack, this is true. But WPA isn't that much harder to crack either. Nowadays that is nothing. We don't even have to backup our machines anymore. As just call up the NSA and they have a complete working copy of our machines anyway. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center
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May 17th 14, 09:53 PM
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May 17th 14, 10:16 PM
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:46:53 -0500, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
northwestdude wrote: please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ... Are they really on your network list or just on your wifi list? Good question... I think you have found the real problem. Since the phrase "my network section" is quite ambiguous, I should have thought a bit more before replying :-) Since he didn't specify any, I did think of asking the OP to say a bit about which hardware he was talking about, but I wasn't sure he'd answer. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
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May 17th 14, 10:50 PM
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May 17th 14, 11:07 PM
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[quote='Gene E. Bloch[_2_];3591812']On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:46:53 -0500, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
northwestdude wrote: please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ... Are they really on your network list or just on your wifi list? Good question... I think you have found the real problem. Since the phrase "my network section" is quite ambiguous, I should have thought a bit more before replying :-) Since he didn't specify any, I did think of asking the OP to say a bit about which hardware he was talking about, but I wasn't sure he'd answer. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)[its not the wifi list its on the network in the control panel and im on a wap2personal security]
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May 17th 14, 11:48 PM
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On 5/17/2014 5:16 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:46:53 -0500, Paul in Houston TX wrote: northwestdude wrote: please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ... Are they really on your network list or just on your wifi list? Good question... I think you have found the real problem. Since the phrase "my network section" is quite ambiguous, I should have thought a bit more before replying :-) Since he didn't specify any, I did think of asking the OP to say a bit about which hardware he was talking about, but I wasn't sure he'd answer. Something about routers from some of the IP's and cellphone companies comes to mind. (Open Wi-Fi "hotspots" by default that have to be disabled with a less than obvious sequence.) Also, some routers identify devices that they "see", but are not really connected. This might be the case when access is properly controlled.
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May 18th 14, 12:03 AM
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On 5/17/2014 3:53 PM, northwestdude wrote:
'Gene E. Bloch[_2_ Wrote: ;3591797']On Sat, 17 May 2014 19:30:16 +0100, northwestdude wrote: - please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ...- Have you enabled WPA security in your router? It's hard to interpret what you wrote, but it sounds like one or more of your neighbors' WiFi systems are connecting to your WiFi, which implies to me that you haven't made it secure. Don't use WEP - it's said to be not nearly as secure as the WPA family of encryption. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) thanks for the reply . checking on the wpa get back to you shortly.. Do you and your friend sit around in your living room and text, email, etc. everybody and his brother. If so and you have an unsecured LAN you will experience this sort of thing. I have a secured LAN (WEP), but let my children use the LAN when they come over. I have many devices shown as using my LAN, and I don't know who all of them are.
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May 18th 14, 10:37 PM
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 23:07:35 +0100, northwestdude wrote:
'Gene E. Bloch[_2_ Wrote: ;3591812']On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:46:53 -0500, Paul in Houston TX wrote: - northwestdude wrote:- please can anyone help !! im a new member to this site and this is my first post... i have windows 8.1 and virgin broadband my devices in home include ps3 , 2 iphones, 2 hp laptops , hp printer , virgin tivo .they are all my devices i have but for some reason in my network section i get devices that are not mine these include the following ...samsung nexus , blaze, htc one, occam and a few more , these seem to go shortly ive spotted them .. please does anyone offer any advice information about this .. please help its doing my nut in ha ha ...- Are they really on your network list or just on your wifi list?- Good question... I think you have found the real problem. Since the phrase "my network section" is quite ambiguous, I should have thought a bit more before replying :-) Since he didn't specify any, I did think of asking the OP to say a bit about which hardware he was talking about, but I wasn't sure he'd answer. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)[its not the wifi list its on the network in the control panel and im on a wap2personal security] I can't make any sense out of your reply, but among the people here who want to help, naming a device *type* is not naming a *device*. People look for brand and model name, for example. Operating system and version, for another. Sequence of operations to get to a dialog, or where the dialog is. Is it in the Windows Control Panel? Is it on the router itself? And so on. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
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May 18th 14, 10:41 PM
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On Sun, 18 May 2014 11:21:32 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
On 2014-05-17 7:27 PM, Wolf K wrote: On 2014-05-17 6:48 PM, charlie wrote: [...] Something about routers from some of the IP's and cellphone companies comes to mind. (Open Wi-Fi "hotspots" by default that have to be disabled with a less than obvious sequence.) Also, some routers identify devices that they "see", but are not really connected. This might be the case when access is properly controlled. My wi-fi routers see the motel across the street, plus anywhere from two to seven other routers in the neighbourhood. Seems to have something to do with the phases of the moon and moose breeding season or something. Sorry, careless error. Should say, mi wi-fi cards see those other wi-fi routers. Tell me more abut the mooses :-) My new cellphone wouldn't connect to my router until I switched the router from auto to a fixed manual channel, using a WiFi analyzer program on the phone to pick a relatively quiet channel. Only one of my neighbors was identifiable. The others mostly had their routers' default network names, like 2WIRE17. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
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