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  #16  
Old May 17th 14, 08:09 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
John Doe
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"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

John Doe wrote:
"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:


Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice --
for example, eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once
because I repeat the key too fast. How can I change the
settings for this?

I used John Doe's suggestion: [Control Panel Ease of Access
Center Make the keyboard easier to use]. I checked the
checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys".


If that were the culprit, that box would have been checked.
With it unchecked, there should be no limit on how fast you can
type. Maybe there is a related registry setting that for some
strange reason has been set wrong. Or like you say, maybe it
has something to do with your keyboard. Or maybe it's some
hidden keyboard driver.


With the checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys" cleared, my problem
returns.


If it happens when you switch to the new keyboard, then apparently
something about plugging in the keyboard causes the related
accessibility settings to change. You could research the keyboard
model and that problem. There are probably registry setting
workarounds if necessary.
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Old May 17th 14, 09:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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David E. Ross wrote:
On 5/16/2014 6:02 PM, John Doe wrote:
"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:
Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for
example, eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once
because I repeat the key too fast. How can I change the
settings for this?
I used John Doe's suggestion: [Control Panel Ease of Access
Center Make the keyboard easier to use]. I checked the
checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys".

If that were the culprit, that box would have been checked. With
it unchecked, there should be no limit on how fast you can type.
Maybe there is a related registry setting that for some strange
reason has been set wrong. Or like you say, maybe it has something
to do with your keyboard. Or maybe it's some hidden keyboard
driver.

Another possibility is that it's wireless and there's something
wrong with the connection.


Definitely NOT wireless.

With the checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys" cleared, my problem returns.


Would you have something like Intellitype on the machine ?
I can't help feeling this is somehow related to the fact
the keyboard is Microsoft branded... Even though the
keyboard isn't one of their fancy multimedia ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelliType

Other possibilities would be, that a keylogger is present,
or some sort of software like that. Even perhaps some
software added for presentations, that intercepts
key presses for some reason. Even an old multimedia
keyboard driver, used with a previous (and now unplugged)
keyboard.

I don't think I've ever had to adjust that stuff after
an OS install here. Which suggests there's got to be
something different about your setup, compared to
the rest of us.

Paul
  #18  
Old May 17th 14, 01:10 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
John Doe
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Yeah, but it would show up with the old keyboard.
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Old May 17th 14, 06:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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On 5/16/2014 11:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 5/16/2014 6:02 PM, John Doe wrote:
"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for
example, eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once
because I repeat the key too fast. How can I change the
settings for this?

I used John Doe's suggestion: [Control Panel Ease of Access
Center Make the keyboard easier to use]. I checked the
checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys".


If that were the culprit, that box would have been checked. With
it unchecked, there should be no limit on how fast you can type.
Maybe there is a related registry setting that for some strange
reason has been set wrong. Or like you say, maybe it has something
to do with your keyboard. Or maybe it's some hidden keyboard
driver.

Another possibility is that it's wireless and there's something
wrong with the connection.


Definitely NOT wireless.

With the checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys" cleared, my problem returns.


However, I discovered that checking the "Turn on Filter Keys" checkbox
had a severe impact on scrolling my browser (SeaMonkey). Scrolling with
the Page Down or down-arrow key was extremely sluggish and jerky. I
have thus cleared that checkbox.

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The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia.
See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html.
  #20  
Old May 17th 14, 07:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
slate_leeper
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 10:59:08 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 5/16/2014 11:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 5/16/2014 6:02 PM, John Doe wrote:
"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for
example, eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once
because I repeat the key too fast. How can I change the
settings for this?

I used John Doe's suggestion: [Control Panel Ease of Access
Center Make the keyboard easier to use]. I checked the
checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys".

If that were the culprit, that box would have been checked. With
it unchecked, there should be no limit on how fast you can type.
Maybe there is a related registry setting that for some strange
reason has been set wrong. Or like you say, maybe it has something
to do with your keyboard. Or maybe it's some hidden keyboard
driver.

Another possibility is that it's wireless and there's something
wrong with the connection.


Definitely NOT wireless.

With the checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys" cleared, my problem returns.


However, I discovered that checking the "Turn on Filter Keys" checkbox
had a severe impact on scrolling my browser (SeaMonkey). Scrolling with
the Page Down or down-arrow key was extremely sluggish and jerky. I
have thus cleared that checkbox.



I missed the start of this thread, so you have probably already
checked this:

Control Panel Keyboard Speed

Repeat Delay being too long may be causing your problem.

-dan z-




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  #21  
Old May 17th 14, 07:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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slate_leeper bycy-r0bj spamex.com wrote:

Control Panel Keyboard Speed

Repeat Delay being too long may be causing your problem.


That has nothing to do with user keystrokes/input.

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  #22  
Old May 17th 14, 08:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Fri, 16 May 2014 10:09:06 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for example,
eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once because I repeat the key
too fast. How can I change the settings for this?


Not helpful, but I find this well-known fact interesting in the context
of this thread:

The original QWERTY layout of the keyboard was created by
(what's-his-name) to prevent typists from typing too fast and causing
key jams.

Or so it is said.

--
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  #23  
Old May 17th 14, 08:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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On 5/17/2014 11:20 AM, slate_leeper wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 10:59:08 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 5/16/2014 11:11 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 5/16/2014 6:02 PM, John Doe wrote:
"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for
example, eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once
because I repeat the key too fast. How can I change the
settings for this?

I used John Doe's suggestion: [Control Panel Ease of Access
Center Make the keyboard easier to use]. I checked the
checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys".

If that were the culprit, that box would have been checked. With
it unchecked, there should be no limit on how fast you can type.
Maybe there is a related registry setting that for some strange
reason has been set wrong. Or like you say, maybe it has something
to do with your keyboard. Or maybe it's some hidden keyboard
driver.

Another possibility is that it's wireless and there's something
wrong with the connection.


Definitely NOT wireless.

With the checkbox for "Turn on Filter Keys" cleared, my problem returns.


However, I discovered that checking the "Turn on Filter Keys" checkbox
had a severe impact on scrolling my browser (SeaMonkey). Scrolling with
the Page Down or down-arrow key was extremely sluggish and jerky. I
have thus cleared that checkbox.



I missed the start of this thread, so you have probably already
checked this:

Control Panel Keyboard Speed

Repeat Delay being too long may be causing your problem.

-dan z-


"Repeat Delay" relates to how long you hold a character key down before
it starts repeating. I might use that for drawing lines with dashes,
underlines, equal signs, etc; but my problem is with hitting a key twice
rapidly to get the same character repeated. For example, I want to
enter eleven into a Web form. I hit "1" twice quite quickly and get
only "1" instead of "11".

--
David E. Ross

The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland.
The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia.
See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html.
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Old May 17th 14, 11:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 16 May 2014 19:37:09 -0400, "Don McC"
wrote:

"John Doe" wrote:

I'm not responsible for this thing's lack of reading comprehension...


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Now I know why I have him killfiled.

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  #25  
Old May 19th 14, 12:39 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 10:09:06 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for example,
eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once because I repeat the key
too fast. How can I change the settings for this?


Not helpful, but I find this well-known fact interesting in the context
of this thread:

The original QWERTY layout of the keyboard was created by
(what's-his-name) to prevent typists from typing too fast and causing
key jams.

Or so it is said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwerty#...y_and_purposes says "Contrary
to popular belief,[5] the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the
typist down,[6] but rather to speed up typing by preventing jams.[4][7]"
(and his name was Sholes). (Yes, I know about Wikipedia, but this one
_looks_ convincingly written.)

In the context of the original question (fast typing, not auto-repeat),
a few things might shed more light, such as: Does the same keyboard give
the same problem if used on other computers? On the same computer with a
different OS? Only for single key repeats, or key pairs? With a simpler
input interface (Ideally DOS or DOS-like, but failing that NotePad
rather than Word)?
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  #26  
Old May 19th 14, 01:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 5/18/2014 7:39 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 10:09:06 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for example,
eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once because I repeat the key
too fast. How can I change the settings for this?


Not helpful, but I find this well-known fact interesting in the context
of this thread:

The original QWERTY layout of the keyboard was created by
(what's-his-name) to prevent typists from typing too fast and causing
key jams.

Or so it is said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwerty#...y_and_purposes says "Contrary
to popular belief,[5] the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the
typist down,[6] but rather to speed up typing by preventing jams.[4][7]"
(and his name was Sholes). (Yes, I know about Wikipedia, but this one
_looks_ convincingly written.)

In the context of the original question (fast typing, not auto-repeat),
a few things might shed more light, such as: Does the same keyboard give
the same problem if used on other computers? On the same computer with a
different OS? Only for single key repeats, or key pairs? With a simpler
input interface (Ideally DOS or DOS-like, but failing that NotePad
rather than Word)?


It looks like both you and Gene Bloch are correct! The operative phrase
is "speed up typing by preventing jams".
--
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Old May 19th 14, 05:01 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
charlie[_2_]
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On 5/19/2014 8:53 AM, James Silverton wrote:
On 5/18/2014 7:39 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 10:09:06 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Sometimes, when I want to type the same character twice -- for example,
eleven is 11 -- the character appears only once because I repeat the
key
too fast. How can I change the settings for this?

Not helpful, but I find this well-known fact interesting in the context
of this thread:

The original QWERTY layout of the keyboard was created by
(what's-his-name) to prevent typists from typing too fast and causing
key jams.

Or so it is said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwerty#...y_and_purposes says "Contrary
to popular belief,[5] the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the
typist down,[6] but rather to speed up typing by preventing jams.[4][7]"
(and his name was Sholes). (Yes, I know about Wikipedia, but this one
_looks_ convincingly written.)

In the context of the original question (fast typing, not auto-repeat),
a few things might shed more light, such as: Does the same keyboard give
the same problem if used on other computers? On the same computer with a
different OS? Only for single key repeats, or key pairs? With a simpler
input interface (Ideally DOS or DOS-like, but failing that NotePad
rather than Word)?


It looks like both you and Gene Bloch are correct! The operative phrase
is "speed up typing by preventing jams".


Some keyboards, by design (or price point) are slower than others.
For a short time, some even had a speed switch a few years ago.

 




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